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Can anyone explain how Joshua's weight has barely changed since he fought Darch over two years ago and has actually gone down since the Cornish fight last year?

I'd be asking my dealer for a refund...

watsupdoc87 wrote:

Sklar wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:Oh god

It's unfortunate that people don't get a better handle on this issue. The common misconception is thst if people pass drug tests they must be clean. That's complete nonsense. The allowable ratios for testosterone are ridiculously high, which practically gives a green light for steroid usage up to that level. Tests for HGH are crap, so are rarely done and are ineffectual.

hgh is near imposible to test for as its a natural hormone the body produces and cant be detected the same way say testosterone is detected by checking your test levels

It's quite a dodgy one to mess around with aswell though from what i've heard although could be wrong. I was under the impression that if you had a brain tumour say and are unaware of it and are pumping your body full of HGH, it speeds up the growth of the tumour. Again though I could possibly be wrong on that.

the_doctor wrote:Can anyone explain how Joshua's weight has barely changed since he fought Darch over two years ago and has actually gone down since the Cornish fight last year?

I'd be asking my dealer for a refund...

Have you seen what he weighed on his debut versus now though?

Excess humility is a well-known cause of weight loss actually

Starboxer wrote:If I had money on Joshua i would be worried after that weigh in

I read on YouTube that one guy put 10k on Joshua for a 2k return ,madness

Not madness if it comes in. I never bet more than a wee tenner these days. I'm not a high roller dawg!

lefty wrote:

watsupdoc87 wrote:

Sklar wrote:
It's unfortunate that people don't get a better handle on this issue. The common misconception is thst if people pass drug tests they must be clean. That's complete nonsense. The allowable ratios for testosterone are ridiculously high, which practically gives a green light for steroid usage up to that level. Tests for HGH are crap, so are rarely done and are ineffectual.

hgh is near imposible to test for as its a natural hormone the body produces and cant be detected the same way say testosterone is detected by checking your test levels

It's quite a dodgy one to mess around with aswell though from what i've heard although could be wrong. I was under the impression that if you had a brain tumour say and are unaware of it and are pumping your body full of HGH, it speeds up the growth of the tumour. Again though I could possibly be wrong on that.

yeah thats true about tumours and so on will prob grow aswell if you take growth. also long term use your jaw, nose, feet and your insides will grow which is why you get the turtle belly as your abdominal muscles are pushed out a bit

Counter-puncher wrote:Excess humility is a well-known cause of weight loss actually

As is excess sarcasm

lefty wrote:

the_doctor wrote:Can anyone explain how Joshua's weight has barely changed since he fought Darch over two years ago and has actually gone down since the Cornish fight last year?

I'd be asking my dealer for a refund...

Have you seen what he weighed on his debut versus now though?

I have. The grand total of 15lbs I believe. In two and a half years. Half a pound per month.

In fact, his pattern of weight increase - a relatively quick increase, reaching a plateau and then stabilising - is exactly what we would expect to see in someone that was (shock, horror!) upping their training load.

the_doctor wrote:

lefty wrote:

the_doctor wrote:Can anyone explain how Joshua's weight has barely changed since he fought Darch over two years ago and has actually gone down since the Cornish fight last year?

I'd be asking my dealer for a refund...

Have you seen what he weighed on his debut versus now though?

I have. The grand total of 15lbs I believe. In two and a half years. Half a pound per month.

In fact, his pattern of weight increase - a relatively quick increase, reaching a plateau and then stabilising - is exactly what we would expect to see in someone that was (shock, horror!) upping their training load.

Half a pound per month over two years is a lot if it's largely muscle, and he'd be burning plenty of calories from non-lifting exercises. It's also not like Joshua had just started hitting the weights and was making noob gains.

Him simultaneously having ripped abs and a gut makes me suspicious too.

the_doctor wrote:

lefty wrote:

the_doctor wrote:Can anyone explain how Joshua's weight has barely changed since he fought Darch over two years ago and has actually gone down since the Cornish fight last year?

I'd be asking my dealer for a refund...

Have you seen what he weighed on his debut versus now though?

I have. The grand total of 15lbs I believe. In two and a half years. A grand total of half a pound per month.

In fact, his pattern of weight increase - a relatively quick increase, reaching a plateau and then stabilising - is exactly what we would expect to see in someone that was (shock, horror!) upping their training load.

Cmon there's no need for the passive-aggressive tone when I just asked a simple question. Anyway, A stone of pretty much pure muscle (because his body fat % is clearly very low) over a two year period is still quite a lot actually unless you're new to lifting with Joshua clearly isn't. On top of that, his training regime would be more rigorous now than when he was an amateur weighing in the low 230's, particularly cardio wise and thus burning more calories and yet his weight has gone up versus down. I mean I guess that's normal though. That's ignoring the fact that he has a rather strange looking stomach which can be a symptom of a certain Hormone but we can give him the benefit of the doubt on that.

crusader wrote:Half a pound per month over two years is a lot if it's largely muscle, and he'd be burning plenty of calories from non-lifting exercises. It's also not like Joshua had just started hitting the weights and was making noob gains.

Him simultaneously having ripped abs and a gut makes me suspicious too.

You've basically just said what i've just written. Good to see i'm not the only one

Starboxer wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Starboxer wrote:



Bruno had a better physique than Joshua and better stamina

Better how? What are you basing the stamina on, given Joshua's not even been 12 rounds yet.

I'd say that Joshua's output of punches is quite impressive for a man of his size.

He can't keep that Pace up. I agree though he was throwing close to 100 punches a round in the whyte fight , power shots as well

Well he wouldn't maintain that pace, agreed, but then, who would?

lefty wrote:

crusader wrote:Half a pound per month over two years is a lot if it's largely muscle, and he'd be burning plenty of calories from non-lifting exercises. It's also not like Joshua had just started hitting the weights and was making noob gains.

Him simultaneously having ripped abs and a gut makes me suspicious too.

You've basically just said what i've just written. Good to see i'm not the only one

It's quite common in people that do lots of weights, it's called 'bowling' not a sign of anything nefarious.

Ooh look at the claws on lefty giving it the 'passive aggressive' and reciprocal sarcasm

Counter-puncher wrote:Ooh look at the claws on lefty giving it the 'passive aggressive' and reciprocal sarcasm

You can talk

lefty wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:Ooh look at the claws on lefty giving it the 'passive aggressive' and reciprocal sarcasm

You can talk

Are we adding David Haye to our list of cheats? Whacked on 17lbs between Enzo and Barrett and he's gone up 17lbs since he fought Chisora. He's always had a pretty low body fat % too.

the_doctor wrote:Are we adding David Haye to our list of cheats? Whacked on 17lbs between Enzo and Barrett and he's gone up 17lbs since he fought Chisora. He's always had a pretty low body fat % too.

Probably. Not sure what your point is though?

the_doctor wrote:Are we adding David Haye to our list of cheats? Whacked on 17lbs between Enzo and Barrett .

You mean between a fight he had to make 14st 4 for, and a fight he didn't?

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

lefty wrote:

crusader wrote:Half a pound per month over two years is a lot if it's largely muscle, and he'd be burning plenty of calories from non-lifting exercises. It's also not like Joshua had just started hitting the weights and was making noob gains.

Him simultaneously having ripped abs and a gut makes me suspicious too.

You've basically just said what i've just written. Good to see i'm not the only one

It's quite common in people that do lots of weights, it's called 'bowling' not a sign of anything nefarious.

It's a likely sign of excess insulin in the body.

Anyway, is that bulge in your trousers natural or did you buy it on the dark web?

the_doctor wrote:Are we adding David Haye to our list of cheats? He's always had a pretty low body fat % too.

I already covered that earlier with the 'genetic heritage' argument

Well, that, and a shit-ton of cheatjuice.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

lefty wrote:

crusader wrote:Half a pound per month over two years is a lot if it's largely muscle, and he'd be burning plenty of calories from non-lifting exercises. It's also not like Joshua had just started hitting the weights and was making noob gains.

Him simultaneously having ripped abs and a gut makes me suspicious too.

You've basically just said what i've just written. Good to see i'm not the only one

It's quite common in people that do lots of weights, it's called 'bowling' not a sign of anything nefarious.

There's a lot of people that lift that don't have that.

Do you even lift tho bro?