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Re: Crolla Vs Linares and Undercard. RBR.

Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 19:36
by Horse
ShadrachSimmo wrote:You mean whack?
No.

Re: Crolla Vs Linares and Undercard. RBR.

Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 19:47
by crusader
Horse wrote:
crusader wrote:He also thought Kell "shaken to his boots" Brook got the better of GGG in round one :lol:
So what? Get over it.
:clap:

Re: Crolla Vs Linares and Undercard. RBR.

Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 20:27
by TheLeprechaun
I posted before that I fancied Linares strongly and I wasn't surprised he won.

The times Linares has broken down have all been from head shots. I knew Crolla was going to be body shot heavy in this fight due to his last few stoppages with body shots. Linares has always looked solid to the body. Crolla really should have been focusing on throwing a lot more head shots than he did. I thought he overdid the body shots. This was why I fancied Linares strongly and had a bet on him.

If Crolla had been trained by someone other than Gallagher I might have put less money on Linares because I didn't think Gallagher would have picked up on Linares breaking down from head shots only and looking very solid to the body throughout his career.

Re: Crolla Vs Linares and Undercard. RBR.

Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 21:11
by davie
I watched the RbR commentry on this thread and it sounded levelish up till the 9th.
I went inside for my lunch (I'm on the nightshift) and caught the last 2 rounds and Crolla looked levels below.
There was no snap or intent behind his punches and Linares looked the far sharper, harder hitting, faster and technically better fighter.

I'll need to watch rounds 1 - 10 because that never looked like the end of a close contest to me

Re: Crolla Vs Linares and Undercard. RBR.

Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 21:14
by wesshaw1985
Does an immediate rematch go a different way?

Re: Crolla Vs Linares and Undercard. RBR.

Posted: 25 Sep 2016, 00:08
by tigermoth87
Scored it 116-114

Good fight, Linares a level above Crolla. Still, wasn't a one sided mismatch. Crolla made it competitive and won some rounds. Linares came on too strong at the end though, it was those final 2 rounds that sealed it. They weren't close at all.

Re: Crolla Vs Linares and Undercard. RBR.

Posted: 25 Sep 2016, 02:34
by billy nelson
Very good fight but had linares 4 up at the end, would have liked Anthony to have thrown more than twos and threes when he had his man on the ropes

Re: Crolla Vs Linares and Undercard. RBR.

Posted: 25 Sep 2016, 04:00
by Andrew
wesshaw1985 wrote:Does an immediate rematch go a different way?
No got beat by the better fighter. Plus I don't think it's a Gallagher thing either like the Quigg fight. Crolla can't do anything different and that fight will have taken a lot out of him.

Re: Crolla Vs Linares and Undercard. RBR.

Posted: 25 Sep 2016, 04:01
by Stevieb8006
don't call it a comeback wrote:
skanksta wrote:
don't call it a comeback wrote:Linares by one for me. Early rounds Linares, middle rounds Crolla - undone by getting caught badly in the sixth - and then final rounds Linares.

Good fight, both fighters deserve credit. Always pretty close.

The Sky commentary was irritating dribble for the most part. Adam Smith has never been able to commentate action in the ring and Malignaggi is the guy if he were a taxi driver you'd slide the partition so you don't have to listen to him warbling on in his falsetto. Froch just agrees with whatever the person who speaks before him says.

I put the commentary on mute at the halfway point - first time I've ever done that.
Waay harsh on The Magic Man - very insightful commentator for me.

Well I suppose if you really believe he was deserving of the Magic Man title you will be disposed towards him.

He says one interesting thing then follows it with repetition, exclamation and argument. He's there to add analysis but he ends up trying to commentate the whole action.

The point at which he started castigating Crolla for trying to referee the fight by calling a low blow I just had to check there weren't two Paulie's and that he really was the fighter that I remember in the ring who had no problem whinging about anything slightly south.

And then his patronising lecture began about how the if Uk really wanted to be in the first rank of boxing countries at some point in the future we would have to stamp this awful refereeing out - I started frantically searching for the mute button.
??????? Both good points. The majority of UK fans agreed

Re: Crolla Vs Linares and Undercard. RBR.

Posted: 25 Sep 2016, 04:06
by Andrew
rossij8 wrote:Hate the booing

No respect
This was absolutely disgusting last night it was the same for Triple G. Two great fighters putting in a performance and they boo.

The Crolla cards now just seem to be for Man United coked up idiots, it's one reason I didn't go last night ( went to Barroso) Could hear United songs as well too.

Re: Crolla Vs Linares and Undercard. RBR.

Posted: 25 Sep 2016, 10:21
by expe
Deno1986 wrote:
expe wrote:Hopefully there's no rematch, far better fights out there for both fighters. Wasn't remotely close, Crolla had his moments but Linares was a class above throughout, had it 118-110, not sure what two of the judges and a good few on here were watching to have it so close, think Horse has been given too much ket today.
But with respect mate, do you not think that when two professional judges and the majority of people on here have it a close fight says more about your scoring? :-P The main thing is that the right man won.
Given the general standard of judging I'd say that's no indication at all, John Keane should be called before the board to explain his scorecard, 115-114 was bad enough but he somehow managed to give 4 of the first 5 rounds to Crolla, hard to believe that anyone could be that incompetent. Everyone on CHB had it at least 116-112 to Linares, bar one who had it by a point and was widely ridiculed. Crolla wasn't close to winning the fight at any stage, struggle to see how anyone could give him more than 4 rounds and even that's pushing it, if there's a rematch with a fair, neutral and unbiased referee who doesn't allow Crolla to referee the fight for him he'll get stopped from the bodyshots.

Re: Crolla Vs Linares and Undercard. RBR.

Posted: 25 Sep 2016, 10:26
by Horse
expe wrote:Given the general standard of judging I'd say that's no indication at all, John Keane should be called before the board to explain his scorecard, 115-114 was bad enough but he somehow managed to give 4 of the first 5 rounds to Crolla, hard to believe that anyone could be that incompetent. Everyone on CHB had it at least 116-112 to Linares, bar one who had it by a point and was widely ridiculed. Crolla wasn't close to winning the fight at any stage, struggle to see how anyone could give him more than 4 rounds and even that's pushing it, if there's a rematch with a fair, neutral and unbiased referee who doesn't allow Crolla to referee the fight for him he'll get stopped from the bodyshots.
Post your scorecard.

Re: Crolla Vs Linares and Undercard. RBR.

Posted: 25 Sep 2016, 10:29
by Ian1973
I have to admit I didn't score the fight round by round but Linares won comfortably didn't he? Watching the fight as a whole, Linares definitely won and it wasn't THAT close.

Re: Crolla Vs Linares and Undercard. RBR.

Posted: 25 Sep 2016, 10:35
by ShadrachSimmo
Horse wrote:
ShadrachSimmo wrote:You mean whack?
No.
I see.

Re: Crolla Vs Linares and Undercard. RBR.

Posted: 25 Sep 2016, 10:37
by Horse
Ian1973 wrote:I have to admit I didn't score the fight round by round but Linares won comfortably didn't he? Watching the fight as a whole, Linares definitely won and it wasn't THAT close.
I thought it was close.

Re: Crolla Vs Linares and Undercard. RBR.

Posted: 25 Sep 2016, 10:38
by the patriot
Don't believe there's anything Crolla can do which will improve on last night..
I had it a comfortable win for Linares, like others has said, a class above.
Don't see the point in any rematch.. If politics allow Crolla should get in with Flannagan next

Re: Crolla Vs Linares and Undercard. RBR.

Posted: 25 Sep 2016, 10:43
by Ian1973
Horse wrote:
Ian1973 wrote:I have to admit I didn't score the fight round by round but Linares won comfortably didn't he? Watching the fight as a whole, Linares definitely won and it wasn't THAT close.
I thought it was close.
OK. Maybe if I scored it round for round it may have seemed closer? If I get the chance I'll watch it back and score it properly.

Re: Crolla Vs Linares and Undercard. RBR.

Posted: 25 Sep 2016, 10:53
by Horse
Ian1973 wrote:OK. Maybe if I scored it round for round it may have seemed closer?
Maybe you would, maybe you wouldn't.

I thought almost all of the rounds were close, but others saw it a lot differently.

Re: Crolla Vs Linares and Undercard. RBR.

Posted: 25 Sep 2016, 10:54
by Deno1986
Ian1973 wrote:I have to admit I didn't score the fight round by round but Linares won comfortably didn't he? Watching the fight as a whole, Linares definitely won and it wasn't THAT close.
Yes watching the fight as a whole, Linares definitely won because the rounds he won, he won impressively and he finished the last 3 rounds impressively. BUT, he did let Crolla win rounds by letting him outwork him. It's worth pointing out too that judges can't score shots when the ref calls a foul so even though they looked like good shots, they can't be considered when scoring rounds.

This is my scorecard just to show how I scored it:

1: EVEN 10-10 (this easily could have gone to JL)
2: JL 20-19
3: JL 30-28
4: AC 39-38
5: AC 48-48
6: JL 58-57
7: AC 67-67
8: AC 76-77
9: AC 85-87
10: JL 95-96
11: JL 105-105
12: JL 115-114

It's all subjective though and what you like to score in fights.

Re: Crolla Vs Linares and Undercard. RBR.

Posted: 25 Sep 2016, 11:02
by Horse
Deno1986 wrote:Yes watching the fight as a whole, Linares definitely won because the rounds he won, he won impressively and he finished the last 3 rounds impressively. BUT, he did let Crolla win rounds by letting him outwork him. It's worth pointing out too that judges can't score shots when the ref calls a foul so even though they looked like good shots, they can't be considered when scoring rounds.

This is my scorecard just to show how I scored it:

1: EVEN 10-10 (this easily could have gone to JL)
2: JL 20-19
3: JL 30-28
4: AC 39-38
5: AC 48-48
6: JL 58-57
7: AC 67-67
8: AC 76-77
9: AC 85-87
10: JL 95-96
11: JL 105-105
12: JL 115-114

It's all subjective though and what you like to score in fights.
You scored it the same way as me, except that I gave the first round to Crolla.

Re: Crolla Vs Linares and Undercard. RBR.

Posted: 25 Sep 2016, 11:09
by forcefraser
Good fight. I had Linares winning by 4.

Added of bonus of some great wank bank material in Linares`s missus. What a piece of work.

Big money rematch for both of them.

It must have dawned on Eddie by now that stable of champions he has are not at the very top of the game. If Parker sparks Joshua in November he is struggling.

Re: Crolla Vs Linares and Undercard. RBR.

Posted: 26 Sep 2016, 11:03
by Tanzio
I do not think that Crolla got proper credit for the excellent job he did in there v Linares. I had it 115-113 for Linares. He was definitely the more skilled / gifted boxer in the ring. He did the better body work and hurt Crolla more than once. However, Crolla showed a stronger / stiffer jab which led to him scoring well and keeping the majority of rounds very close. Linares won more clear rounds to me (4 of 5).

The right man got the decision but he cut it way too fine and Crolla nearly stole the show, legitimately.

I would rather they both have at least one good fight before a possible rematch.