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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT Sport - 3 December 2022

Posted: 17 Oct 2022, 19:07
by Counter-puncher
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 16:11
maverick23 wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 16:05
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 15:56 He was good value was Clinton, tough as nails he was, and not afraid to mix it up with the very best. He fought Roy Jones pretty much at Roy's formidable peak, and gave a good account of himself.
I loved Clinton. A real good, old school fighter. I was buzzing when he beat Hoye. I’m sure he earned fairly well but if his career had started 5 or so years later then he would have made a fortune and probably wouldn’t have been defending his world title at a swimming baths. May also have been manoeuvred away from some of the fights we fondly remember though.
Yeah, there was a lot of talk about Hoye coming into the fight, and I seem to remember he was the betting favourite, as many thought Clinton was nearing the end.

As others said, he wasn't spectacular in any particular department, he wasn't a fancy dan, didn't have blistering speed, or footwork, wasn't blessed with enormous firepower, but he was a solid all around fighter, and had a great workrate and a very good chin.

I seem to recall Jones did him in with body shots.
When i rewatched him after a 10 year gap or whatever I noticed he was a fair bit ‘cuter’ than I’d remembered. Again true to form for him, nothing in particular I could even put my finger on, he was just technically and ring craft wise better than I’d remembered. If I could name one thing he landed more little counters on the midrange-inside against Johnson than I’d remembered.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT Sport - 3 December 2022

Posted: 17 Oct 2022, 19:36
by Cyclops
Manchester Hitman wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 16:06 By the looks of it, at least they appear to be building a solid undercard. They must know they need to at this point

This is a good fight. If they can do Parker v Ryder, Cacace - Dilmaghani, Yvan Mendy v Denys Berinchyk , Adeleye v Wallisch etc, Bricktop might get my money the sneaky old sod


Fury Chisora 2, as bad a night as it was, sold well off Eubank Jnr vs Saunders as chief support. So long as there is an equally solid co-main, I can see this shit-show doing just as well.

Don't expect to see me there, though.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT Sport - 3 December 2022

Posted: 17 Oct 2022, 20:32
by Manchester Hitman
Cyclops wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 19:36
Manchester Hitman wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 16:06 By the looks of it, at least they appear to be building a solid undercard. They must know they need to at this point

This is a good fight. If they can do Parker v Ryder, Cacace - Dilmaghani, Yvan Mendy v Denys Berinchyk , Adeleye v Wallisch etc, Bricktop might get my money the sneaky old sod


Fury Chisora 2, as bad a night as it was, sold well off Eubank Jnr vs Saunders as chief support. So long as there is an equally solid co-main, I can see this shit-show doing just as well.

Don't expect to see me there, though.
Yeah, they are probably also paying Derek to go bonkers at the Presser this week which will capture the casual market attention. I’m out that evening/night at my mates stag, but our first destination has confirmed their showing the fight which is a result I guess.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT Sport - 3 December 2022

Posted: 17 Oct 2022, 20:38
by margaret thatcher
Manchester Hitman wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 16:06 By the looks of it, at least they appear to be building a solid undercard. They must know they need to at this point

This is a good fight. If they can do Parker v Ryder, Cacace - Dilmaghani, Yvan Mendy v Denys Berinchyk , Adeleye v Wallisch etc, Bricktop might get my money the sneaky old sod


you supporting a fwank show? im shocked!

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT Sport - 3 December 2022?

Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 02:41
by jamesmcdonnell
big lennox wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 18:02
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 15:33
big lennox wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 15:29

Great story. Sounds like you dodged a bullet there. Did you ever see him again at boxing shows? I used to love the boxing events at Ponds Forge. The Clinton Woods vs Glencoffe Johnson were really tough fights. Tough men, the both of them. And who can forget the Thompson vs Rothman epic. Adam Booth and David Haye were both there that night as well, I recall. Some seriously big punches thrown by Thompson and Rothman. Incredible come from behind finish from Thompson.
I was at that one too! Was that ponds forge?

I was at so many fights back then I find it hard to remember

I was sat behind big Dave Pariss at that one. He called it about 10 seconds before, he said something along the lines of "next right hand carl throws its lights out."

I remember rothman going over in slow motion fafe first...fcking brutal

And no, never saw the 'trainee ref/judge" I suspect he's inside or dead, he was a wrong 'un"
Yes, Ponds Forge. Dave Paris called it right. Even when Thompson was shaken, and on the ropes, you sensed he was going to find the equaliser. The sound in the building when he landed and everyone cheered/roared was amazing. Felt sorry for Rothman, mind. What became of him?
Yeah I can remember everybody leaping to their feet - it was one of my favourite boxing moments ever - the entire building felt like it was going to take off everyone was roaring their heads off. Great night that.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT Sport - 3 December 2022

Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 03:15
by Manchester Hitman
margaret thatcher wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 20:38
Manchester Hitman wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 16:06 By the looks of it, at least they appear to be building a solid undercard. They must know they need to at this point

This is a good fight. If they can do Parker v Ryder, Cacace - Dilmaghani, Yvan Mendy v Denys Berinchyk , Adeleye v Wallisch etc, Bricktop might get my money the sneaky old sod


you supporting a fwank show? im shocked!

Terrible main event, which BrickTop has indirectly admitted, but I like the undercard that they appear to be setting up. I contradicted myself earlier though, as I won’t be buying as i’m out that night.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT Sport - 3 December 2022

Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 03:33
by maverick23
mickey1975 wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 16:48 Dennis Hobson said he got a load of grief from Woods brother for pulling him out against RJJ but he stood by his decision as Clinton was too tough for his own good and would have got hurt. He also said Woods is a millionaire.
I always thought Hobson was a good man. I just don’t think he was too good of a promoter (compared to peak Frank and Eddie).

Clinton had 10 world title fights plus several other at domestic/European level. I’d be disappointed if he wasn’t a millionaire. I just think if he’d had 10 world title fights a few years later or nowadays then he’d be a much bigger star and probably getting 7 figures per fight.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT Sport - 3 December 2022

Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 07:48
by jamesmcdonnell
Counter-puncher wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 19:07
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 16:11
maverick23 wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 16:05

I loved Clinton. A real good, old school fighter. I was buzzing when he beat Hoye. I’m sure he earned fairly well but if his career had started 5 or so years later then he would have made a fortune and probably wouldn’t have been defending his world title at a swimming baths. May also have been manoeuvred away from some of the fights we fondly remember though.
Yeah, there was a lot of talk about Hoye coming into the fight, and I seem to remember he was the betting favourite, as many thought Clinton was nearing the end.

As others said, he wasn't spectacular in any particular department, he wasn't a fancy dan, didn't have blistering speed, or footwork, wasn't blessed with enormous firepower, but he was a solid all around fighter, and had a great workrate and a very good chin.

I seem to recall Jones did him in with body shots.
When i rewatched him after a 10 year gap or whatever I noticed he was a fair bit ‘cuter’ than I’d remembered. Again true to form for him, nothing in particular I could even put my finger on, he was just technically and ring craft wise better than I’d remembered. If I could name one thing he landed more little counters on the midrange-inside against Johnson than I’d remembered.
His fights with Johnson were good quality, from memory, it was only the last one, where Johnson started to look his age.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT Sport - 3 December 2022

Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 11:44
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT Sport - 3 December 2022

Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 12:27
by maverick23
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 18 Oct 2022, 11:44
Strange they’re only looking to do it in the US on ESPN+. Bob predicted 500k buys in the US for Fury/Whyte and I’d have thought this would warrant a similar prediction…

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT Sport - 3 December 2022

Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 12:35
by Ruthless-RKO
maverick23 wrote: 18 Oct 2022, 12:27
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 18 Oct 2022, 11:44
Strange they’re only looking to do it in the US on ESPN+. Bob predicted 500k buys in the US for Fury/Whyte and I’d have thought this would warrant a similar prediction…
Yeh, it's just not worth it.

His fights vs Schwarz and Wallin were ESPN+ as well.. The Whyte bout, they were trying to make as much back as possible due to high purse bid..

Plus its the middle of the afternoon..

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT Sport - 3 December 2022

Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 12:53
by thenamesnevers
Warren should be rolling out Yarde or Dubois to help sell this. Yarde is fighting in November, but why not give Dubois a tin can to knock over?

The undercard for Joyce/Parker and Fury/White were disgraceful.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT Sport - 3 December 2022

Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 12:57
by Ruthless-RKO
thenamesnevers wrote: 18 Oct 2022, 12:53 Warren should be rolling out Yarde or Dubois to help sell this. Yarde is fighting in November, but why not give Dubois a tin can to knock over?

The undercard for Joyce/Parker and Fury/White were disgraceful.
It's looking likely that we'll see Dubois-Lerena on the undercard.

Parker-Ryder have taken the o2 date in Nov.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT Sport - 3 December 2022

Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 12:59
by thenamesnevers
Fair enough. The least Queensberry should be doing is staking this card. They should roll out Callum Johnson as well.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT Sport - 3 December 2022

Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 14:12
by THEBUTCH
I cannot believe this bollocks is actually happening...I'm hoping I will wake up and it's just been a perverted nightmare 🤮

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT Sport - 3 December 2022

Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 14:30
by KiwiRider
thenamesnevers wrote: 18 Oct 2022, 12:59 Fair enough. The least Queensberry should be doing is staking this card. They should roll out Callum Johnson as well.
You would really hope so.
Unfortunately Tyson is a greedy piglet and Del Boy is used to big paydays so there will be very little cash in the kitty after those two.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT Sport - 3 December 2022

Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 14:56
by jamesmcdonnell
THEBUTCH wrote: 18 Oct 2022, 14:12 I cannot believe this bollocks is actually happening...I'm hoping I will wake up and it's just been a perverted nightmare 🤮
If you wake up covered in spunk, I think you need to be worried.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT Sport - 3 December 2022

Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 15:23
by chinarich
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 15:56 He was good value was Clinton, tough as nails he was, and not afraid to mix it up with the very best. He fought Roy Jones pretty much at Roy's formidable peak, and gave a good account of himself. Jones Jr was the only man to stop him, which isn't bad going at all.
I always liked Woods, it was great when he finally got the world title and also a share of the spoils in the Johnson trilogy. Definitely one of those boxers who maximised their ability.

I think he does a lot of training these days, mostly with kids by the look of his instagram page...

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT Sport - 3 December 2022

Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 15:25
by jamesmcdonnell
chinarich wrote: 18 Oct 2022, 15:23
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 15:56 He was good value was Clinton, tough as nails he was, and not afraid to mix it up with the very best. He fought Roy Jones pretty much at Roy's formidable peak, and gave a good account of himself. Jones Jr was the only man to stop him, which isn't bad going at all.
I always liked Woods, it was great when he finally got the world title and also a share of the spoils in the Johnson trilogy. Definitely one of those boxers who maximised their ability.

I think he does a lot of training these days, mostly with kids by the look of his instagram page...
Do you remember the little band that used to follow him around, I think they might have been from Sheffield united supporters club - there was a guy with a trumpet and a guy with a bass drum, and they would play three notes whilst everyone chanted 'come on clinton, come on clinton..' over and over.

I used to hear it for days after I'd been to one of his fights in my mind.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT Sport - 3 December 2022

Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 15:30
by DrDuke
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 18 Oct 2022, 11:44
Hell, no! It'll be better with fucken Charr or Fres Okendo, not Chisora again.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT Sport - 3 December 2022

Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 15:31
by chinarich
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 18 Oct 2022, 15:25
chinarich wrote: 18 Oct 2022, 15:23
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 15:56 He was good value was Clinton, tough as nails he was, and not afraid to mix it up with the very best. He fought Roy Jones pretty much at Roy's formidable peak, and gave a good account of himself. Jones Jr was the only man to stop him, which isn't bad going at all.
I always liked Woods, it was great when he finally got the world title and also a share of the spoils in the Johnson trilogy. Definitely one of those boxers who maximised their ability.

I think he does a lot of training these days, mostly with kids by the look of his instagram page...
Do you remember the little band that used to follow him around, I think they might have been from Sheffield united supporters club - there was a guy with a trumpet and a guy with a bass drum, and they would play three notes whilst everyone chanted 'come on clinton, come on clinton..' over and over.

I used to hear it for days after I'd been to one of his fights in my mind.
I don't, unfortunately I never saw one of his fights live so I never heard the support band.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT Sport - 3 December 2022

Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 15:47
by jamesmcdonnell
chinarich wrote: 18 Oct 2022, 15:31
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 18 Oct 2022, 15:25
chinarich wrote: 18 Oct 2022, 15:23

I always liked Woods, it was great when he finally got the world title and also a share of the spoils in the Johnson trilogy. Definitely one of those boxers who maximised their ability.

I think he does a lot of training these days, mostly with kids by the look of his instagram page...
Do you remember the little band that used to follow him around, I think they might have been from Sheffield united supporters club - there was a guy with a trumpet and a guy with a bass drum, and they would play three notes whilst everyone chanted 'come on clinton, come on clinton..' over and over.

I used to hear it for days after I'd been to one of his fights in my mind.
I don't, unfortunately I never saw one of his fights live so I never heard the support band.
Lucky you, used to drive me mental.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT Sport - 3 December 2022

Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 15:49
by chinarich
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 18 Oct 2022, 15:47
chinarich wrote: 18 Oct 2022, 15:31
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 18 Oct 2022, 15:25

Do you remember the little band that used to follow him around, I think they might have been from Sheffield united supporters club - there was a guy with a trumpet and a guy with a bass drum, and they would play three notes whilst everyone chanted 'come on clinton, come on clinton..' over and over.

I used to hear it for days after I'd been to one of his fights in my mind.
I don't, unfortunately I never saw one of his fights live so I never heard the support band.
Lucky you, used to drive me mental.
:lol:

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT Sport - 3 December 2022

Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 15:52
by jamesmcdonnell
DrDuke wrote: 18 Oct 2022, 15:30
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 18 Oct 2022, 11:44
Hell, no! It'll be better with fucken Charr or Fres Okendo, not Chisora again.
Oquendo - he hasn't fought since 2014!

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT Sport - 3 December 2022

Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 15:53
by jamesmcdonnell
chinarich wrote: 18 Oct 2022, 15:49
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 18 Oct 2022, 15:47
chinarich wrote: 18 Oct 2022, 15:31

I don't, unfortunately I never saw one of his fights live so I never heard the support band.
Lucky you, used to drive me mental.
:lol:
Not sure if Ian McNeilly still posts here, but we used to joke about how insidious it was after watching a few of Clinton's fights.