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jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑16 Apr 2023, 09:02

handsofstone wrote: ↑16 Apr 2023, 08:34 Would pay good money to see Zhang turn Chisora into a cabbage once and for all, good servant to the sport but a horrible human being and far too entitled, although I suppose when you've got a lot of belt holders ducking, dodging and pricing themselves out of serious tests and big fights then its really no surprise plonkers like Del Boy have a god complex despite losing nearly every big fight they've ever had

Jesus, did Del bang your missus?

Why would you wish that on anyone?

Twinkle Toes wrote: ↑16 Apr 2023, 07:57 Zhang couldn't miss with the left and busted Joyce up early on. Joyce threw a lot of leather, but it wasn't well schooled. A lot of it was hitting the arms. Zhang never once looked troubled where as Joyce was hurt to head and body. The reality is he lost to a nearly 40 yeard old and of course he will come back but to me it looks like his moment has passed.

I think these heavys are all at a point when anything can happen. They are fighting against age as much as anything else.

tonyevs wrote: ↑16 Apr 2023, 10:23

Twinkle Toes wrote: ↑16 Apr 2023, 07:57 Zhang couldn't miss with the left and busted Joyce up early on. Joyce threw a lot of leather, but it wasn't well schooled. A lot of it was hitting the arms. Zhang never once looked troubled where as Joyce was hurt to head and body. The reality is he lost to a nearly 40 yeard old and of course he will come back but to me it looks like his moment has passed.

I think these heavys are all at a point when anything can happen. They are fighting against age as much as anything else.

Agreed. Against the lighter hitters like Parker his Homer Simpson defence may be enough to be able to wear an opponent down - but against a quality puncher like Zhang its always going to be a gamble of getting damaged before the opponent gasses.

And of course. When a near 40 year old beats another near 40 yr old who most saying is the biggest threat in the division says it all about the division at the moment.

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑16 Apr 2023, 09:17 Did he? Wasnt aware of that.

Still wouldnt want to see him battered into permanent disability myself.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2023, 09:31 Strange really, the forum doesn’t rate Parker or Dubois at all yet had Joyce on a pedestal. Was it the Hammer win, that also saw him take loads of flush shots?

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑16 Apr 2023, 11:08

mickey1975 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2023, 09:31 Strange really, the forum doesn’t rate Parker or Dubois at all yet had Joyce on a pedestal. Was it the Hammer win, that also saw him take loads of flush shots?

I think many, myself included, were starting to think he was unbreakable, and was just going to keep on grinding people down. His win over Parker was pretty impressive.

I do wonder if he was caught a bit cold by Zhang, he didn't seem to look as hurt after the 2nd round, although that's probably because his own output went up, and Zhang's went down as a consequence.

The myth of his invincibility is gone now, whuich will give his opponents much more confidence from here on in.

I can't see him winning a genuine world title now, not unless he gets a real gift for a vacant belt.

I also think that swollen eye will come back to dog him, at 37 scar tissue heals much much more slowly, and less completely.

polecateddy wrote: ↑16 Apr 2023, 12:40

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑16 Apr 2023, 11:08

mickey1975 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2023, 09:31 Strange really, the forum doesn’t rate Parker or Dubois at all yet had Joyce on a pedestal. Was it the Hammer win, that also saw him take loads of flush shots?

I think many, myself included, were starting to think he was unbreakable, and was just going to keep on grinding people down. His win over Parker was pretty impressive.

I do wonder if he was caught a bit cold by Zhang, he didn't seem to look as hurt after the 2nd round, although that's probably because his own output went up, and Zhang's went down as a consequence.

The myth of his invincibility is gone now, whuich will give his opponents much more confidence from here on in.

I can't see him winning a genuine world title now, not unless he gets a real gift for a vacant belt.

I also think that swollen eye will come back to dog him, at 37 scar tissue heals much much more slowly, and less completely.

It’s certainly seemed obvious by Carl Thompson v Eubank 2, that no matter how well Eubank fought the eye would keep going. Joyce seems to now be very similar.

jameswilson wrote: ↑15 Apr 2023, 16:14 I noticed he said ‘nah fuc ked’ to his trainer and he just said the same to Francis Warren.


I was going to post before the fight that I expect an ‘injury’ to happen at some point this year, so I’m he can get back on some kind of program if you know what I mean. It’s so common I just can’t believe people can’t see that this is how our guys get away with it.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑16 Apr 2023, 14:49 It was hard to watch a fairly decent guy like Joyce take so many flush shots to the head.
Exciting fight, don't get me wrong, but like Adam Kownacki's face first defense being exposed by the Viking twice, I feel that may be the same outcome for Joyce - should he ask for a rematch.

polecateddy wrote: ↑16 Apr 2023, 14:57 Probably one of many reasons why people shouldn’t still be a professional boxer in their late 30’s I guess includes people’s faces really having enough of being punched. Not to mention brains.

THEBUTCH wrote: ↑16 Apr 2023, 17:23 One loss guys, let's not write him off just yet

One good win and he's back in play. We also see many boxers get "world" title shots on the back of losses.

It was an injury loss (but let me be clear that it was a 100% kosher win for Zhang) and any half decent promoter can spin that. Plenty of boxers who have suffered much more emphatic stoppage loses have pulled a million excuses out of their arse holes

Coco wrote: ↑16 Apr 2023, 18:20 Seen a couple of clips with Francis Warren, didn't seem at all disappointed, maybe Zhang has signed a contract!
Maybe that makes a Fury fight more likely.

handsofstone wrote: ↑16 Apr 2023, 08:34 Would pay good money to see Zhang turn Chisora into a cabbage once and for all, good servant to the sport but a horrible human being and far too entitled, although I suppose when you've got a lot of belt holders ducking, dodging and pricing themselves out of serious tests and big fights then its really no surprise plonkers like Del Boy have a god complex despite losing nearly every big fight they've ever had