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Think the one thing that may help Tyson , is if his father is'nt there . The team will be able to do there job without that idiot

Cyclops wrote: ↑26 Oct 2024, 09:31

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑24 Oct 2024, 17:22 looked to me like an intelligent fighter got the read on his opponent and eventually took over to edge the fight. tony bellew was beating usyk on the cards too. usyk constantly does this where he comes on strong as the fight progresses . if a nose boo boo impacts fury that bad it's a huge liability for him

of course usyk isnt unbeatable, albeit fury and all others have failed so far

Come on Mags. Many fights have been turned by a broken nose. It's disingenuous to say that it shouldn't have a significant impact on the momentum of a fighter, when you know that it can.

never said it didnt impact the fight, but its no fluke that the guy who works guys out and comes on strong landed it, nor is it that the guy who always busts and bleeds and bruises up busted up again

many many many a fighter has won with a broken nose too btw

Cyclops wrote: ↑26 Oct 2024, 09:26 I can't be the only person that thought Usyk looked a bit of a dick in the press conference? Wasn't it all a bit... Arrogant? It would be the first time I would ever say that about him. But, pride comes before a fall and all that.

Remember the first press conference for the first fight? Fury was coked up, gurning and sniffing and growling about rabbits and stuff. He looked like someone who had to snort a gram to force some sort of performance out of himself, even just to talk to the media.

There is a massive contrast between this Fury and that Fury. Fury was very professional and knows he can't intimidate Usyk and so why even try? He fought a close fight last time and can fight a closer one this time. I wouldn't be surprised if he won at all.

usyk is the king and came out with some quiet confidence, he wasnt screaming or waiving all over the place or making a scene. we see far more outlandish all the time in boxing. i liked it and dont see a problem. agent 47 look was fun, come on now

fury looked like a guy who'd been put in his place compared to past showings. maybe that's a good thing for him, or maybe his confidence is a bit hurt. maybe both. i prefer him more respectful like he was here though.

first fight was only a point or two fight, defo fury can win, but usyk is such a smart fit fighter who has solved all the puzzles, including fury. should be a tough one for both.

I don't think Uysk has got the recognition he deserves for the win.

The narrative has been around, a), Fury's corner, b), Fury's showboating, c), it was a split decision etc, d), how good Fury looked in rounds 4 to 6, and, e), Fury got caught with one punch that turned the fight on its head etc

The bottom line is that Uysk pressured the vastly bigger Fury and was going to ko him in Round 9. However, he was robbed of that by the ref jumping in before the decisive blow, and then giving Fury a standing count which went on forever. Another referee, and the scorecards would have been immaterial.

It's heavyweight boxing and anything can happen but it would not surprise me if Uysk ko'd Fury this time round. Fury took a proper shellacking in Round 9 and seems to be in denial about his defeat. I'd prefer for them both to retire.

I don't think Uysk was arrogant at the press conference. He always comes with something interesting: a joker outfit, or a kosak warlords clothes. Low key but interesting.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑26 Oct 2024, 11:45

Cyclops wrote: ↑26 Oct 2024, 09:31

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑24 Oct 2024, 17:22 looked to me like an intelligent fighter got the read on his opponent and eventually took over to edge the fight. tony bellew was beating usyk on the cards too. usyk constantly does this where he comes on strong as the fight progresses . if a nose boo boo impacts fury that bad it's a huge liability for him

of course usyk isnt unbeatable, albeit fury and all others have failed so far

Come on Mags. Many fights have been turned by a broken nose. It's disingenuous to say that it shouldn't have a significant impact on the momentum of a fighter, when you know that it can.

never said it didnt impact the fight, but its no fluke that the guy who works guys out and comes on strong landed it, nor is it that the guy who always busts and bleeds and bruises up busted up again

many many many a fighter has won with a broken nose too btw

Broken jaws, too. It just read like you were taking the piss out of that poster for suggesting the momentum of the fight changed with the broken nose, when actually I think that's exactly what happened, and it was a perfectly fine observation.

im sorry if any one was hurt or offended by my comments, no piss taking meant. i will go back to the drawing board and come back stronger in the future.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑26 Oct 2024, 14:25 im sorry if any one was hurt or offended by my comments, no piss taking meant. i will go back to the drawing board and come back stronger in the future.

how very politically correctly woke or whatever

Is it me or did anyone else think Tyson looked a bit tired and worn at the presser? He looked knackered and low energy to me, not his usual self. I guess maybe the Usyk loss really humbled him but I was expecting a bit more excitement from him. Seemed deflated.

ya i did, but maybe a long trip or trying a new approach in the build up after the circus of the first time. fury is so unstable back and forth too, you never know with him

Watched it for the third time. What a clear win for Usyk. I cannot understand how some people scored that fight for Fury. For the rematch - If Fury can come with that Wilder 2 form and mindset, Usyk will be in trouble. Pressure is something that work against ukrainan. If Fury would fight just like in first fight, he is going take beating

Cent0089 wrote: ↑27 Oct 2024, 02:02 Watched it for the third time. What a clear win for Usyk. I cannot understand how some people scored that fight for Fury. For the rematch - If Fury can come with that Wilder 2 form and mindset, Usyk will be in trouble. Pressure is something that work against ukrainan. If Fury would fight just like in first fight, he is going take beating

Them uppercuts were great. If he can use his reach to keep the pressure on, keep moving him back whilst keeping him out of his own range for counters it could be a plan.

Doubt he manages that tho

andy lee has been saying fury couldn't spar cos of the cut, and the back to back camps took a toll. they are planning on being heavy for the next one.

Not looking good for the big lad is it

Over the past few months, I’ve often come across boxing fans—both online and in real life—who, after watching the fascinating first fight between Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Usyk, reached conclusions vastly different from my own. One particular interpretation has stood out, which I’ll refer to as the “myth of Tyson Fury’s distraction.” I put some thoughts about it in this opinion piece:

https://boxepunch.com/en/top-en/point-o ... straction/

magic_man wrote: ↑30 Oct 2024, 12:07 Over the past few months, I’ve often come across boxing fans—both online and in real life—who, after watching the fascinating first fight between Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Usyk, reached conclusions vastly different from my own. One particular interpretation has stood out, which I’ll refer to as the “myth of Tyson Fury’s distraction.” I put some thoughts about it in this opinion piece:

https://boxepunch.com/en/top-en/point-o ... straction/

good take, i agree

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Oct 2024, 12:23

magic_man wrote: ↑30 Oct 2024, 12:07 Over the past few months, I’ve often come across boxing fans—both online and in real life—who, after watching the fascinating first fight between Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Usyk, reached conclusions vastly different from my own. One particular interpretation has stood out, which I’ll refer to as the “myth of Tyson Fury’s distraction.” I put some thoughts about it in this opinion piece:

https://boxepunch.com/en/top-en/point-o ... straction/

good take, i agree

Ack, same here

magic_man wrote: ↑30 Oct 2024, 12:07 Over the past few months, I’ve often come across boxing fans—both online and in real life—who, after watching the fascinating first fight between Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Usyk, reached conclusions vastly different from my own. One particular interpretation has stood out, which I’ll refer to as the “myth of Tyson Fury’s distraction.” I put some thoughts about it in this opinion piece:

https://boxepunch.com/en/top-en/point-o ... straction/

Great read. Well marshalled argument.

My thoughts were that Usyk was incontrol early. Fury looked hesitant. And I did think that maybe Fury was shot, especially in light of the FN fiasco.

Then Fury took over and I had never seen Usyk so hurt and losing rounds so badly. I have never rewatched. So you are likely right, but in the moment it felt like Fury then let Usyk back int the fight. I will rewatch.

Thanks again.

I've heard a fair bit about a third fight if Fury wins and I hope that's the case. The Rowdy in Saudi, so to speak.

magic_man wrote: ↑30 Oct 2024, 12:07 Over the past few months, I’ve often come across boxing fans—both online and in real life—who, after watching the fascinating first fight between Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Usyk, reached conclusions vastly different from my own. One particular interpretation has stood out, which I’ll refer to as the “myth of Tyson Fury’s distraction.” I put some thoughts about it in this opinion piece:

https://boxepunch.com/en/top-en/point-o ... straction/

good read

magic_man wrote: ↑30 Oct 2024, 12:07 Over the past few months, I’ve often come across boxing fans—both online and in real life—who, after watching the fascinating first fight between Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Usyk, reached conclusions vastly different from my own. One particular interpretation has stood out, which I’ll refer to as the “myth of Tyson Fury’s distraction.” I put some thoughts about it in this opinion piece:

https://boxepunch.com/en/top-en/point-o ... straction/

Thanks for sharing, I'd disagree on dethroning, he's already done it and was prevented from the conclusive win he deserved by a dire piece of reffing. I think he will get that ending this time round.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑31 Oct 2024, 10:12 I've heard a fair bit about a third fight if Fury wins and I hope that's the case. The Rowdy in Saudi, so to speak.

That would be awesome. And it would crown a top era.

Tickets on sale. Start at £10. Good floor seats for £150.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Nov 2024, 06:10 Tickets on sale. Start at £10. Good floor seats for £150.

what?