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Bud Furillo and Johnny Unitas

kikibalt wrote:
Bud Furillo and Johnny Unitas

Frank
Thanks for posting that. Two of my favorites . You know when Johnny Unitus died a few years back,I thought the Sport's World was gonna' stop. Hardly nothing. They announced his passing almost as an after thought. This guy brought NFL Football into prominence as the #1 spectator sport. He revolutionized the game with a modern passing attack. He'd come from behind like he did against the Giants in that NFL Championship game in Sudden Death.

I remember watching an old Leave IT To Beaver episode. Beaver asked his father,Ward, who was a better quarterback. Johnny Unitus or Sammy Baugh. Ward shook his head and answered The Beaver very condencendinly,"Of course,Sammy Baugh."

Ask a kid today who Johnny Unitus was and they'll probably guess he's an action figure. At least Beaver Cleaver knew who Sammy Baugh was.

Diego, did you know that Sammy Baugh was a B-Western Cowboy star after his football playing days were over?

Sammy Baugh

Full name: Samuel Adrian Baugh

Football legend Slingin' Sammy Baugh played for Texas Christian University (TCU) and was with the Washington Redskins from 1937-1952. Les Adams chatted with Texan Sammy Baugh for a 1974 issue of the late Bob Malcomson's Those Enduring Matinee Idols, a wonderful publication about the sound era cliffhanger. For those of you who have TEMI, the interview is in Chapter 26, Volume 3, Number 6. You'll find the complete interview on the subsequent webpages.

Les adds:

"This is an interview I did with Baugh in the 70's. I've seem him many times since --- I first met him when he was coaching Hardin-Simmons in Abilene. Most of his KING OF THE TEXAS RANGERS thoughts are here.

While Tom Steele did double him in a lot of shots, the guy who slid down the wire from the top of the oil derrick was Dave Sharpe. William Witney and Tom Steele (on separate occasions) told me that Baugh was as fine a rider and horseman as they had seen.

He has seen the serial complete since the interview as I took him a tape a few years later, but as mentioned in the interview he had only seen pieces of it over the years. One time was when he had the Hardin-Simmons University team in Oklahoma playing Tulsa. A couple of his players came knocking on his door at the hotel with the news that he was in a movie on television they were watching in their room. He said they were so impressed he didn't bother telling them that wasn't him doing most of that jumping and fighting.

Several tidbits: He was certainly taken with Pauline Moore ... more so than what I used, but in a nice way. Sportswriter Grantland Rice, mentioned in the interview, was the father of Columbia/MGM actress Florence Rice. The Bill Saal footnoted on the last page is the "S" in Ken Maynard's KBS WorldWide films."

Chino State Prison, Chino, Ca.

In the 1960s-70s, I used to take amateur boxers to Chino State Prison, Chino Ca,
for the amateur boxing shows held once a month, Rick might had boxed there.
In the above photo, my fighter Sergio Perez (L) won by 3rd. ko over Wayne Thomas.

Irish Bob Murphy (R) and Jimmy Beau

Fabela Chavez (R) with George Parnassus

dagosd2000 wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:

kikibalt wrote:
Alexis Arguello and Sugar Ray Robinson

This photo was taken at the Main St. Gym in 1973, when Arguello was training for his featherweight title fight with Ruben Olivares. I remember the headgear, he was wearing it when I sparred with him.

-Rick

Do you know how old Sugar Ray Robinson was when this photo with Arguello was taken? He was 52, still training and sparring with the likes of Ernie "Indian Red" Lopez and Mike Nixon, to name a few. Keep in mind, he made his pro debut roughly 33 years prior to this photo, and had been retired for eight years, after more than 200 pro fights, and a long amateur career. There was only ONE "Sugar Ray" and only ONE "Golden Boy". Boxers can steal the nickname, as did another Rodolfo Gonzalez who fought under than name "Gato", but there is nothing that compares to the "originals" in boxing history.



-Rick

You're right Rick about Suger Ray being the one and only. I wrote about this before when Robinson was on the Edward R. Morrow show. Robinson said he didn't like boxing. It was only a job. A way to make money. Take a look at that photo. Everyone around the great Ray Robinson. Ray is loving every minute of it. I guess Ray was trying to feignt us on the Edward R. Morrow show that day.[/quote]



Very likely, Dagos. Ray was a master of deception, as are all great boxers. He'd show you something but give you something else. I recall a converstaion that my last managers, Mel Epstein and Suey Welch, had with Mickey Davies, when we were in his office to sign a contract one afternoon. Robinson's name was mentioned by former wrestler Mike Mazurki, who was a buddy of Suey's and happened to be in the office, as well. Mickey Davies had a temper and I recall him sitting behind his desk, smoking a cigarette while pounding on a typewriter. When he heard Sugar Ray's name mentioned he frowned and barked, "That S.O.B.!!! I offered him $300 to make a quick appearance at a press luncheon, and he demanded $500. I reluctantly paid him the five bills and the bastard fails to show up. Sugar Ray Robinson stiffed more promoters than any other fighter ever!"

I recall feeling a bit puzzled by Mickey's logic. A fighter screwing a promoter? All I could think to myself was . . . "COOL!"

R.I.P. Mr Robinson, and you too, Mickey D.

-Rick Farris

kikibalt wrote:Chino State Prison, Chino, Ca.

In the 1960s-70s, I used to take amateur boxers to Chino State Prison, Chino Ca,
for the amateur boxing shows held once a month, Rick might had boxed there.
In the above photo, my fighter Sergio Perez (L) won by 3rd. ko over Wayne Thomas.

Frank, I never boxed at Chino, however, I twice fought at Tehachapi Prison, once when I was an amateur and a year later as a pro. Here's something a bit ironic. You may remember in 1969, a 22-year-old bantam from Washington State, Billy Grey, turned pro in L.A. He lived with the Quarry family and I boxed with Billy a few times in the gym. Billy was a baby-faced guy who looked about 17, had light skin with Indian features. After four straight wins as a pro, Billy gets wasted one Sunday night and drops acid. He ends up shooting a cop six times, and disappears for three days. The cop lived, and Billy was picked up asleep at his girlfriends house after a massive search. Billy was sentenced to seven years and served in a variety of Cal. State prisons including Soledad, and later, Tehachapi. I would box with Billy Grey in an exhibition bout at Tehachapi, and enjoyed getting a chance to say "hello". Many years later, after Billy Grey had finished doing his time, we hooked up again at the home of a mutual friend. What a story he had to tell!

-Rick

dagosd2000 wrote:

kikibalt wrote:
Bud Furillo and Johnny Unitas

Frank
Thanks for posting that. Two of my favorites . You know when Johnny Unitus died a few years back,I thought the Sport's World was gonna' stop. Hardly nothing. They announced his passing almost as an after thought. This guy brought NFL Football into prominence as the #1 spectator sport. He revolutionized the game with a modern passing attack. He'd come from behind like he did against the Giants in that NFL Championship game in Sudden Death.

I remember watching an old Leave IT To Beaver episode. Beaver asked his father,Ward, who was a better quarterback. Johnny Unitus or Sammy Baugh. Ward shook his head and answered The Beaver very condencendinly,"Of course,Sammy Baugh."

Ask a kid today who Johnny Unitus was and they'll probably guess he's an action figure. At least Beaver Cleaver knew who Sammy Baugh was.

I'm with you, Dagos! I was just a kid but Unitas was unforgetable. And Bud Furillo, a great guy, and a good boxing writer, as was Allen Malamud.

-Rick

kikibalt wrote:
Bud Furillo and Johnny Unitas

I'm back to clothes again. I wasn't much for the thin lapels and thin ties. Also the pant leg didn't cover the socks. Not much room in a suit either. I feel the jacket needs to drape a lttle and pants should be let out,perhaps with pleets. And thin ties are like ribbons. Not fashionable at all.
Mr. Dagos


BTW,either Unitus has the strongest biceps around or that trophy is hollow inside.

kikibalt wrote:Diego, did you know that Sammy Baugh was a B-Western Cowboy star after his football playing days were over?

Sammy Baugh

Full name: Samuel Adrian Baugh

Football legend Slingin' Sammy Baugh played for Texas Christian University (TCU) and was with the Washington Redskins from 1937-1952. Les Adams chatted with Texan Sammy Baugh for a 1974 issue of the late Bob Malcomson's Those Enduring Matinee Idols, a wonderful publication about the sound era cliffhanger. For those of you who have TEMI, the interview is in Chapter 26, Volume 3, Number 6. You'll find the complete interview on the subsequent webpages.

Les adds:

"This is an interview I did with Baugh in the 70's. I've seem him many times since --- I first met him when he was coaching Hardin-Simmons in Abilene. Most of his KING OF THE TEXAS RANGERS thoughts are here.

While Tom Steele did double him in a lot of shots, the guy who slid down the wire from the top of the oil derrick was Dave Sharpe. William Witney and Tom Steele (on separate occasions) told me that Baugh was as fine a rider and horseman as they had seen.

He has seen the serial complete since the interview as I took him a tape a few years later, but as mentioned in the interview he had only seen pieces of it over the years. One time was when he had the Hardin-Simmons University team in Oklahoma playing Tulsa. A couple of his players came knocking on his door at the hotel with the news that he was in a movie on television they were watching in their room. He said they were so impressed he didn't bother telling them that wasn't him doing most of that jumping and fighting.

Several tidbits: He was certainly taken with Pauline Moore ... more so than what I used, but in a nice way. Sportswriter Grantland Rice, mentioned in the interview, was the father of Columbia/MGM actress Florence Rice. The Bill Saal footnoted on the last page is the "S" in Ken Maynard's KBS WorldWide films."

Hey Buddy,I'm going for a reach here. Maybe Rick could comment on this too. But in that story there is a mention of William Witney, This guy produced a Western on early TV called Stories Of The Century. It starred Jim Davis(later of Dallas fame) and an actress named Mary Castle. I must have been 8 or 9 when this series came out on television,but this Mary Castle was the most beautifull girl I'd ever seen. She looked more like Rita Hayworth than Rita Hayworth did. What a stunner. But I heard she was kind of crazy in the head and liked to booze it up. Never went far in Hollywood. Died of lung cancer a while back. But in her day she was georgeous.

Another one I had the hots for was Gale Storm. Never missed an episode of My Little Margie. I know she's still around. Another one who fought John Barley Corn.

Another thing about those two shows,I liked the music in them. Also the music that was in the first two seasons of Superman. But I never felt nothin' for George Reeves.

dagosd2000 wrote:

kikibalt wrote:Diego, did you know that Sammy Baugh was a B-Western Cowboy star after his football playing days were over?

Sammy Baugh

Full name: Samuel Adrian Baugh

Football legend Slingin' Sammy Baugh played for Texas Christian University (TCU) and was with the Washington Redskins from 1937-1952. Les Adams chatted with Texan Sammy Baugh for a 1974 issue of the late Bob Malcomson's Those Enduring Matinee Idols, a wonderful publication about the sound era cliffhanger. For those of you who have TEMI, the interview is in Chapter 26, Volume 3, Number 6. You'll find the complete interview on the subsequent webpages.

Les adds:

"This is an interview I did with Baugh in the 70's. I've seem him many times since --- I first met him when he was coaching Hardin-Simmons in Abilene. Most of his KING OF THE TEXAS RANGERS thoughts are here.

While Tom Steele did double him in a lot of shots, the guy who slid down the wire from the top of the oil derrick was Dave Sharpe. William Witney and Tom Steele (on separate occasions) told me that Baugh was as fine a rider and horseman as they had seen.

He has seen the serial complete since the interview as I took him a tape a few years later, but as mentioned in the interview he had only seen pieces of it over the years. One time was when he had the Hardin-Simmons University team in Oklahoma playing Tulsa. A couple of his players came knocking on his door at the hotel with the news that he was in a movie on television they were watching in their room. He said they were so impressed he didn't bother telling them that wasn't him doing most of that jumping and fighting.

Several tidbits: He was certainly taken with Pauline Moore ... more so than what I used, but in a nice way. Sportswriter Grantland Rice, mentioned in the interview, was the father of Columbia/MGM actress Florence Rice. The Bill Saal footnoted on the last page is the "S" in Ken Maynard's KBS WorldWide films."

Hey Buddy,I'm going for a reach here. Maybe Rick could comment on this too. But in that story there is a mention of William Witney, This guy produced a Western on early TV called Stories Of The Century. It starred Jim Davis(later of Dallas fame) and an actress named Mary Castle. I must have been 8 or 9 when this series came out on television,but this Mary Castle was the most beautifull girl I'd ever seen. She looked more like Rita Hayworth than Rita Hayworth did. What a stunner. But I heard she was kind of crazy in the head and liked to booze it up. Never went far in Hollywood. Died of lung cancer a while back. But in her day she was georgeous.

Another one I had the hots for was Gale Storm. Never missed an episode of My Little Margie. I know she's still around. Another one who fought John Barley Corn.

Another thing about those two shows,I liked the music in them. Also the music that was in the first two seasons of Superman. But I never felt nothin' for George Reeves.

diego

Gale Storm died years ago.

I remember Mary Castle, an you're right, she was georgeous.

kikibalt wrote:

dagosd2000 wrote:

kikibalt wrote:Diego, did you know that Sammy Baugh was a B-Western Cowboy star after his football playing days were over?

Sammy Baugh

Full name: Samuel Adrian Baugh

Football legend Slingin' Sammy Baugh played for Texas Christian University (TCU) and was with the Washington Redskins from 1937-1952. Les Adams chatted with Texan Sammy Baugh for a 1974 issue of the late Bob Malcomson's Those Enduring Matinee Idols, a wonderful publication about the sound era cliffhanger. For those of you who have TEMI, the interview is in Chapter 26, Volume 3, Number 6. You'll find the complete interview on the subsequent webpages.

Les adds:

"This is an interview I did with Baugh in the 70's. I've seem him many times since --- I first met him when he was coaching Hardin-Simmons in Abilene. Most of his KING OF THE TEXAS RANGERS thoughts are here.

While Tom Steele did double him in a lot of shots, the guy who slid down the wire from the top of the oil derrick was Dave Sharpe. William Witney and Tom Steele (on separate occasions) told me that Baugh was as fine a rider and horseman as they had seen.

He has seen the serial complete since the interview as I took him a tape a few years later, but as mentioned in the interview he had only seen pieces of it over the years. One time was when he had the Hardin-Simmons University team in Oklahoma playing Tulsa. A couple of his players came knocking on his door at the hotel with the news that he was in a movie on television they were watching in their room. He said they were so impressed he didn't bother telling them that wasn't him doing most of that jumping and fighting.

Several tidbits: He was certainly taken with Pauline Moore ... more so than what I used, but in a nice way. Sportswriter Grantland Rice, mentioned in the interview, was the father of Columbia/MGM actress Florence Rice. The Bill Saal footnoted on the last page is the "S" in Ken Maynard's KBS WorldWide films."

Hey Buddy,I'm going for a reach here. Maybe Rick could comment on this too. But in that story there is a mention of William Witney, This guy produced a Western on early TV called Stories Of The Century. It starred Jim Davis(later of Dallas fame) and an actress named Mary Castle. I must have been 8 or 9 when this series came out on television,but this Mary Castle was the most beautifull girl I'd ever seen. She looked more like Rita Hayworth than Rita Hayworth did. What a stunner. But I heard she was kind of crazy in the head and liked to booze it up. Never went far in Hollywood. Died of lung cancer a while back. But in her day she was georgeous.

Another one I had the hots for was Gale Storm. Never missed an episode of My Little Margie. I know she's still around. Another one who fought John Barley Corn.

Another thing about those two shows,I liked the music in them. Also the music that was in the first two seasons of Superman. But I never felt nothin' for George Reeves.

diego

Gale Storm died years ago.

I remember Mary Castle, an you're right, she was georgeous.

Frank
When I saw your reply,I almost fell over. Check it out . Gale Storm is still kickin'. I checked her Web Site.

diego you're right, shit its to early!!...

El Chicano recaptures the magic at the Greek

Karen Tapia-Andersen / Los Angeles Times
DYNAMIC DUO: War’s Mitch Kashmar, left, and Fernando Harkless perform at the Greek as part of Latin Legends Live.

Seminal 1970s band that was on the cutting edge of the Eastside sound is led by Bobby Espinosa.
By Agustin Gurza, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer

On Sunday at the Greek Theatre, a reunited El Chicano showed that the band is worthy of renewed attention as one of the most accomplished exponents of the Eastside sound. Led by the white-haired Bobby Espinosa -- who was perched behind his beloved Hammond B-3 organ, draped for the occasion in a colorful Mexican serape -- El Chicano performed on the second of a two-night concert series called Latin Legends Live!, now in its seventh year at the Greek.

The weekend lineup included other warhorses of the Chicano nostalgia circuit, including headliners War and Tierra, along with Thee Midniters and Malo with Jorge Santana.

Tierra's lively party set featured brothers Rudy and Steve Salas, who once played with El Chicano and who had their own big reunion at the Conga Room in 2002. The band's outstanding current vocalist, Billy Mondragon, could have won the night's "Chicano Idol" competition for his soulfulness, power and pure falsettos.

El ChicanoSunday's afternoon gloom might have slightly dampened the turnout. But the audience of mostly middle-aged Mexican Americans, many with the trademark goatees and tattoos of veteranos, filled the amphitheater with celebratory enthusiasm for the old-school music that served as a soundtrack for their youth.

The night offered a welcome reminder of how many excellent musicians emerged from the California Chicano community after the success of Carlos Santana and his trademark pop concoction, Latin rock. Unfortunately, nostalgia now fills a void because Chicano bands, with the exception of Los Lobos, have struggled to recapture the 1970s level of popularity.

While not strictly a Chicano band, War (Eric Burden's ex-backup group) fits the Santana mold with its multicultural makeup and its fusion of rock, R&B, salsa and jazz, exemplified by its 1975 Top 10 hit "Low Rider."

El Chicano's "Viva Tirado" was one of those pop music flukes, a jazzy instrumental written by pianist Gerald Wilson, an African American who happened to love bullfighting. El Chicano's 1970 cover version became a Top 40 hit, though it was recorded when the group was still known as the V.I.P.s, a moniker changed by a producer after signing a record deal. Overnight and unwittingly, the band was turned into a symbol for the tumultuous political movement that also called itself Chicano.

Espinosa has kept the group going with various lineups, but this is the first time in more than 20 years that almost all the early members were back on stage together. They include Freddie Sanchez (bass), Jerry Salas (vocals and guitar), Rudy Regalado (timbales), John De Luna (drums) and Mickey Lespron (guitar).

IN HARMONY: El Chicano’s veteran lead singer Ersi Arvizu, performs her hit “Sabor A Mi.”

The band's veteran lead singer Ersi Arvizu was warmly received for a guest vocal on her signature bolero, "Sabor A Mi." She did the number like a diva and exited with a pitch: "Don't forget to buy my CD. Believe me, it sounds just like El Chicano." Well, not exactly. The work has little to do with Latin rock and stays truer to the bolero's romantic essence.

Lespron is the only band member who plays on Arvizu's album, "Friend for Life." On Sunday, he lit up the stage with thrilling guitar solos, switching to a vintage 1962 Gibson for "Viva Tirado," the guitar he used on the original recording.

"It felt great, man," said Lespron backstage after the show. "The magic's still there."

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kikibalt wrote:diego you're right, shit its to early!!...

OLDSMOBILE CAR COMMERCIAL GALE STORM 1950
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8lj0nt7_EM

Gale Storm has her own website:

http://www.galestorm.tv/

Here's a pic of a young Gale Storm for you, Frank:

raylawpc wrote:Gale Storm has her own website:

http://www.galestorm.tv/

Here's a pic of a young Gale Storm for you, Frank:

NICE!!

Frank, thanks for the pixs regarding Ruben, one of my favorite fighters!!

One of my goals is to sit down one day and talk to Rick about his experiences as Ruben's sparring partner.

Thanks again.

BTW: Doies anyone know what Ruben is up to these days?

raylawpc wrote:Frank, thanks for the pixs regarding Ruben, one of my favorite fighters!!

One of my goals is to sit down one day and talk to Rick about his experiences as Ruben's sparring partner.

Thanks again.

BTW: Doies anyone know what Ruben is up to these days?

Thanks Tom,

I for one don't know what Olivares is doing now days, maybe Rick knows.

Guys,

Any of you ever got to see Beto Maldonado (Real Name;Humberto Arispuro) fight? he used to fight out of Chino, Ca., he was a good friend of mine back in the day, but I used to hate to watch him fight, he would stink up the joint everytime he fought, diego, he fought his last fight in San Diego against Eddie Mazon, did you see that fight?

raylawpc wrote:Frank, thanks for the pixs regarding Ruben, one of my favorite fighters!!

One of my goals is to sit down one day and talk to Rick about his experiences as Ruben's sparring partner.

Thanks again.

BTW: Doies anyone know what Ruben is up to these days?

I love the old films of Ruben.
Rick Farris had to be a TOUGH guy to be able to get in there and spar with Ruben regularly.
Ive often read where people say that sparring doesnt mean much.
Well, let me tell ya , when you get in there with a guy like Olivares , it aint no picnic.
Ive been in sparring with some good guys , but not a Ruben Olivares.
In every sparring session with a real good pro , there are heated moments and you better be able to answer back or it can be sleepy time.

Sugar Ray Robinson vs Randy Turpin...1951