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kikibalt wrote:
Sugar Ray Robinson vs Randy Turpin...1951

Expug wrote:

kikibalt wrote:
Sugar Ray Robinson vs Randy Turpin...1951

Im amazed at how big a middleweight Turpin was.
He looks like a lightheavyweight.
Randy had to have been a strong fighter.

kikibalt wrote:Guys,

Any of you ever got to see Beto Maldonado (Real Name;Humberto Arispuro) fight? he used to fight out of Chino, Ca., he was a good friend of mine back in the day, but I used to hate to watch him fight, he would stink up the joint everytime he fought, diego, he fought his last fight in San Diego against Eddie Mazon, did you see that fight?

Expug wrote:I remember reading somewhere how Sugar Ray was shocked also when he looked across the ring at Randy.
He said something like he thought he was looking at a heavyweight.
Something like that.

dagosd2000 wrote:

Expug wrote:I remember reading somewhere how Sugar Ray was shocked also when he looked across the ring at Randy.
He said something like he thought he was looking at a heavyweight.
Something like that.

Pug
Robinson had the most problems with middleweights like Turpin who had big upper bodies. Fullmer,LaMotta,and Tiger Jones. Saw the replay of that the other night. Ray's old legs kept backing up tiring him out. I think even in his prime Ray would of had difficulty with strong middleweights like Zale and even Cerdan. To think Gainsford mentioned that Ray should take a shot at Marciano. Had to be a joke.

El Gato wrote:For all of you who asked about Ruben Olivares---

I saw him a couple of years ago when we were in Cancun for the WBC Celebration. We spent time talking to each other about the good old days and catching up on what we are doing today. He is living in Mexico City and has the Ruben Olivares Foundation where he trains over 100 kids. He is in great shape. Since then we have been in contact by e-mail.

El Gato

Rick Farris wrote:

kikibalt wrote:Chino State Prison, Chino, Ca.

In the 1960s-70s, I used to take amateur boxers to Chino State Prison, Chino Ca,
for the amateur boxing shows held once a month, Rick might had boxed there.
In the above photo, my fighter Sergio Perez (L) won by 3rd. ko over Wayne Thomas.

Frank, I never boxed at Chino, however, I twice fought at Tehachapi Prison, once when I was an amateur and a year later as a pro. Here's something a bit ironic. You may remember in 1969, a 22-year-old bantam from Washington State, Billy Grey, turned pro in L.A. He lived with the Quarry family and I boxed with Billy a few times in the gym. Billy was a baby-faced guy who looked about 17, had light skin with Indian features. After four straight wins as a pro, Billy gets wasted one Sunday night and drops acid. He ends up shooting a cop six times, and disappears for three days. The cop lived, and Billy was picked up asleep at his girlfriends house after a massive search. Billy was sentenced to seven years and served in a variety of Cal. State prisons including Soledad, and later, Tehachapi. I would box with Billy Grey in an exhibition bout at Tehachapi, and enjoyed getting a chance to say "hello". Many years later, after Billy Grey had finished doing his time, we hooked up again at the home of a mutual friend. What a story he had to tell!

-Rick

dagosd2000 wrote:

dagosd2000 wrote:

Expug wrote:I remember reading somewhere how Sugar Ray was shocked also when he looked across the ring at Randy.
He said something like he thought he was looking at a heavyweight.
Something like that.

Pug
Robinson had the most problems with middleweights like Turpin who had big upper bodies. Fullmer,LaMotta,and Tiger Jones. Saw the replay of that the other night. Ray's old legs kept backing up tiring him out. I think even in his prime Ray would of had difficulty with strong middleweights like Zale and even Cerdan. To think Gainsford mentioned that Ray should take a shot at Marciano. Had to be a joke.

kikibalt wrote:
Milo Savage

kikibalt wrote:
(L-to-R)
Nat Fleischer, Jerry Geisler, Jim Jeffries, Dan Long and Dan McLeod

raylawpc wrote:

kikibalt wrote:
(L-to-R)
Nat Fleischer, Jerry Geisler, Jim Jeffries, Dan Long and Dan McLeod

That photo was taken at Jeff's 75th birthday celebration in 1950. Everybody knows Fleischer, who presented Jeffries with a gift from the New York Boxing Writer's Association. As I recall, Jerry Geisler headed the Helms Athletic Foundation, which presented Jeffries with a trophy in honor of the occasion. Dan Long fought Jeffries on July 2, 1896 at Woodward's Pavilion in San Francisco, with Jeff stopping him in the second round. After his ring career, Long became a police officer in LA, and retired as a captain. He was also present at Jeff's funeral three years later. Dan McLeod was a 19th century wrestling champion. If memory serves, he was in his 90s at the time of Jeff's party.

Jeff's birthday was a big event in 1950. Governor Earl Warren proclaimed April 15, 1950 as "James J. Jeffries Day."

dagosd2000 wrote:Pug
I think Robby said to Gainsford something like,"If you sign him(Marciano),you fight him."