British & Irish boxing 52 fight history knowledge challenge

[Horse]

Any suggestions for week 26?

Recent weeks' nominations:

Horse - Maurice Hope vs Rocky Mattioli I
Horse - Duke McKenzie vs Dave McAuley
Horse - Richie Woodhall vs Glenn Catley
Horse - Alan Rudkin vs Lionel Rose
milpool - Tony Sibson vs Frank Tate
milpool - Errol Christie vs Mark Kaylor
milpool - Kirkland Laing vs Roberto Duran

[Horse]

Any suggestions for week 27?

Recent weeks' nominations:

Horse - Duke McKenzie vs Dave McAuley
Horse - Richie Woodhall vs Glenn Catley
Horse - Alan Rudkin vs Lionel Rose
Horse - Brian Curvis vs Emile Griffith
milpool - Tony Sibson vs Frank Tate
milpool - Errol Christie vs Mark Kaylor
milpool - Kirkland Laing vs Roberto Duran

[Counter-puncher]

Rudkin - Rose is a purists delight

[davie]

Suggested so far:
Joe Calzaghe vs Robin Reid
Eubank vs Watson
Curry vs Honeyghan
Watt vs Arguello
Stracey-Napoles
Bob Foster vs Chris Finnegan
Howard Winstone vs Vicente Saldivar
Walter McGowan vs Salvatore Burruni
Lennox Lewis vs Frank Bruno
Nigel Benn vs Doug DeWitt
Naseem Hamed vs Tom Johnson
Herol Graham vs Mike McCallum
Alan Minter vs Kevin Finnegan
Randolph Turpin- Sugar Ray Robinson
Ken Buchanan vs Ismael Laguna II
Steve Collins vs Reggie Johnson
John Conteh vs Jorge Victor Ahumada
Barry McGuigan vs Eusebio Pedroza
Charlie Magri vs Eleoncio Mercedes
Johnny Nelson vs Carl Thompson
Pat Cowdell vs Salvador Sanchez
Steve Robinson vs Paul Hodkinson
Henry Cooper vs Muhammad Ali I
Dennis Andries vs Jeff Harding I
Dave Charnley vs Joe Brown III
Maurice Hope vs Rocky Mattioli

Buchanan vs Duran.
Alan Rudkin vs Fighting Harada https://youtu.be/pylS883XqyM
Alan Rudkin v Johnny Caldwell https://youtu.be/A9jrqztUMFo
Johnny Owen v Lupe Pintor https://youtu.be/V2K7KNgLr4o
Buchanan vs Watt
Alan Minter vs Vito Antuofermo 2
Tony Sibson vs Dennis Andries
Dennis Andries vs Jeff harding
John H Stracey and Dave boy Green vs Carlos Palomino
Colin Jones v Kirkland Laing 1 and 2
Kirkland Laing vs Roberto Duran
Colin Jones v Milton Mcrory 1 and 2
Barry McGuigan v Juan Laporte
Lloyd Honeyghan v Cliff Gilpin 1 and 2
Najib Daho v Carl Crook 1 and 2
Jack Kid Berg vs Tony Canzoneri and Kid Chocolate,
Tommy Farr vs Joe Louis, Max Baer, Loughran or Braddock
Chris Finnegan vs Bob Foster or John Conteh
Jack Doyle vs. Jack Peterson,
Henry Cooper vs Cassius Clay or Muhamad Ali
Henry Cooper vs Joe Bugner
Frank Bruno vs Joe Bugner
Jim McDonnell - Azumah Nelson.
Billy Hardy - Orlando Canizales 1.
Mark Kaylor - Errol Christie
Najib Daho vs Pat Cowdell 1 and 2 & Pat doherty 1&2
Pat Doherty vs John Doherty
Alan Rudkin vs Walter McGowan - the rematch.
Benny Lynch vs Jackie Brown II
Catley vs Woodhall
Nigel Benn Vs Henry Wharton
Steve Collins vs Sumbu Kalambay or Mike Mccallum
Prince Naseem vs Wayne Mcculloch
Rocky Kelly vs Tony Brown -
duke mckenzie vs dave mcauley
Jamie Moore vs Matthew Macklin
Maurice Hope vs Wilfred Benitez/Carlos Herrera
Ernie Roderick vs Henry Armstrong
benn v mcclellan
Floyd Patterson vs Brian London
Brian Curvis vs Emile Griffith
Haye vs Maccaranelli
Terry downes vs Paul Pender or Willie Pastrano
Brian Curvis vs Emile Griffiths
Terry Marsh beating Joe manley
Dave "boy" McAuley Vs Fidel Basa
Mark Prince v Dariusz Michalczewski
Bob Fitzsimmons vs James J Corbett
Chris Pyatt v Sumbu Kalambay
Gary Jacobs v Pernell Whitaker
Dave "boy" Green vs Carlos Palomino https://youtu.be/BvxekheDMZw & https://youtu.be/nWmSm8Ev4J4

Fighters from the distant past who we could look at
Dick & Randy Turpin, Jack Kid Berg, Ted Kid Lewis, Benny Lynch, Jimmy McLarnin, Tommy Farr, Freddie Welsh, Jimmy Wilde, Jackie Patterson, Len Harvey, Jock Mcavoy, Bob Fitzsimmons, Jack Petersen, Jackie Brown, Freddie Mills, Ernie Roderick, Peter Kane, Al Phillips.

Just a reminder from the first page, what we've watched and what we have left in terms of suggestions from the start of this challenge.
I can't speak for the quality of many of these bouts and can't say for certain we have quality footage, but just a wee memory jogger.

[davie]

Any suggestions for week 27?

Recent weeks' nominations:

Horse - Duke McKenzie vs Dave McAuley
Horse - Richie Woodhall vs Glenn Catley
Horse - Alan Rudkin vs Lionel Rose
Horse - Brian Curvis vs Emile Griffith
milpool - Tony Sibson vs Frank Tate
milpool - Errol Christie vs Mark Kaylor
milpool - Kirkland Laing vs Roberto Duran

I've just read the write up on Curvis vs Griffiths, it sounds a decent scrap and not totally one sided either (although i suspect the report was written by a proud Welshman.)

I have suggested Griffith vs Charnely before and didn't get the nod. So now we have seen Charnley recently, I'll try again with the Curvis fight, a good old 15 rounder.

I have watched Griffith before, but I suspect against Napoles and Monzon he wasn't at his best.
In 1964, a 26 year old Emile Griffith, was considered among the p4p best, if not the best.

[Horse]

I have suggested Griffith vs Charnely before and didn't get the nod.

I don't think that it's available.

[davie]

I have suggested Griffith vs Charnely before and didn't get the nod.

I don't think that it's available.

That might be why it never got the nod then?

[Horse]

That might be why it never got the nod then?

It may well have been chosen.

It's very sad that there is so little footage from before the 70s.

It's easy to forget what a backwards bunch of losers we were back then.

[davie]

That might be why it never got the nod then?

It may well have been chosen.

It's very sad that there is so little footage from before the 70s.

It's easy to forget what a backwards bunch of losers we were back then.

When you see some of the shite served up on a regular basis, maybe it wasn't such a bad thing when everything wasn't televised

[Horse]

When you see some of the shite served up on a regular basis, maybe it wasn't such a bad thing when everything wasn't televised

Yes, but we could pick and choose and pretend that the worst garbage never happened.

All of those great fights lost in time. It's a bloody disgrace!

Curse our ancestors, they were degenerate buffoons!

They had the technology, but didn't use it. What were they thinking?!

They had no love for this sport. Damn their names!

[handsofstone]

When you see some of the shite served up on a regular basis, maybe it wasn't such a bad thing when everything wasn't televised

Yes, but we could pick and choose and pretend that the worst garbage never happened.

All of those great fights lost in time. It's a bloody disgrace!

Curse our ancestors, they were degenerate buffoons!

They had the technology, but didn't use it. What were they thinking?!

They had no love for this sport. Damn their names!

Will you stick to British next year or will you ever do classics from outside UK?

[davie]

When you see some of the shite served up on a regular basis, maybe it wasn't such a bad thing when everything wasn't televised

Yes, but we could pick and choose and pretend that the worst garbage never happened.

All of those great fights lost in time. It's a bloody disgrace!

Curse our ancestors, they were degenerate buffoons!

They had the technology, but didn't use it. What were they thinking?!

They had no love for this sport. Damn their names!

There are some fights, that it is simply inconceivable that they never filmed it or that they never retained the foootage.

Some of the fights, perhaps of greats in their earlier career, it's maybe understandable that it wasn't big enough to justify filming.

But there are some that must have been huge events, of great interest of boxing fans, between 2 known top boxers.
It seems unbelievable to me that no one would take interest in any of the 3 Ezzard Charles vs Archie Moore fights for instancw or that no one would record a single second of Harry Greb doing his thing

[davie]

When you see some of the shite served up on a regular basis, maybe it wasn't such a bad thing when everything wasn't televised

Yes, but we could pick and choose and pretend that the worst garbage never happened.

All of those great fights lost in time. It's a bloody disgrace!

Curse our ancestors, they were degenerate buffoons!

They had the technology, but didn't use it. What were they thinking?!

They had no love for this sport. Damn their names!

Will you stick to British next year or will you ever do classics from outside UK?

Just my tuppence worth but I think we might struggle to maintain a second round of 52 without duplicating fighters and running out of worthwhile footage.
Don't get me wrong, there are probably other fights of Alan Minter or Howard Winstone worth watching. But much of the appeal of this challenge was learning a bit about guys i'd never seen before.

If Horse wants to run this through 2017, I wouldn't mind it extended beyond British fighter.
Again, just Davies tuppence worth

[Horse]

Will you stick to British next year or will you ever do classics from outside UK?

I don't even know if I'll do anything next year. I'll work that out later on.

Would I have to post the foreign one in the Current Scene?

Are they still deleting everything after a year or so over there?

[handsofstone]

Will you stick to British next year or will you ever do classics from outside UK?

I don't even know if I'll do anything next year. I'll work that out later on.

Would I have to post the foreign one in the Current Scene?

Are they still deleting everything after a year or so over there?

Ive been working my way through the classics the last couple of years and theres been some belters,also some not so much,i woudnt bother if it was here or CS,to be honest over on CS it would end up in an arguement betwen the usual suspects as oppossed to a debate or conversation

Ive not been scoring them though,which is something i shoudve done,just to get a whole feel for the fight and whether some fights were controversial etc

Im sure theres some people on here who love boxing but arent old enough to have seen Ali/Frazier,Leonard/Hearns and so on

[Horse]

There are some fights, that it is simply inconceivable that they never filmed it or that they never retained the foootage.

Some of the fights, perhaps of greats in their earlier career, it's maybe understandable that it wasn't big enough to justify filming.

But there are some that must have been huge events, of great interest of boxing fans, between 2 known top boxers.
It seems unbelievable to me that no one would take interest in any of the 3 Ezzard Charles vs Archie Moore fights for instancw or that no one would record a single second of Harry Greb doing his thing

"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity, but don’t rule out malice." - Heinlein's Razor.

I think that I believe in humanity too much to believe that a lot of the worst decisions that happen are due to idiocy.

I tend to assume that there is a conspiracy, but I think that maybe humanity is far dumber than I think it is.

Film the important stuff you idiots! Show some respect for your own culture!

[Horse]

Just my tuppence worth but I think we might struggle to maintain a second round of 52 without duplicating fighters and running out of worthwhile footage.
Don't get me wrong, there are probably other fights of Alan Minter or Howard Winstone worth watching. But much of the appeal of this challenge was learning a bit about guys i'd never seen before.

If Horse wants to run this through 2017, I wouldn't mind it extended beyond British fighter.
Again, just Davies tuppence worth

I think that we'll struggle to get through this year without duplicates.

With the lack of fights before the 70s: We'll have to start showing more fights from the top fighters that we've already shown, or go really far down the rankings and show fighters that maybe we shouldn't bother with.

[Horse]

Ive been working my way through the classics the last couple of years and theres been some belters,also some not so much,i woudnt bother if it was here or CS,to be honest over on CS it would end up in an arguement betwen the usual suspects as oppossed to a debate or conversation

Ive not been scoring them though,which is something i shoudve done,just to get a whole feel for the fight and whether some fights were controversial etc

Im sure theres some people on here who love boxing but arent old enough to have seen Ali/Frazier,Leonard/Hearns and so on

The Current Scene is dominated by moronic trolls. I'd rather not post it there.

[davie]

Will you stick to British next year or will you ever do classics from outside UK?

I don't even know if I'll do anything next year. I'll work that out later on.

Would I have to post the foreign one in the Current Scene?

Are they still deleting everything after a year or so over there?

Well you got away with not posting the current one in the boxing history forum.
fornicate em, it's our thing, bunch of arseholes over there anyway

[davie]

Just my tuppence worth but I think we might struggle to maintain a second round of 52 without duplicating fighters and running out of worthwhile footage.
Don't get me wrong, there are probably other fights of Alan Minter or Howard Winstone worth watching. But much of the appeal of this challenge was learning a bit about guys i'd never seen before.

If Horse wants to run this through 2017, I wouldn't mind it extended beyond British fighter.
Again, just Davies tuppence worth

I think that we'll struggle to get through this year without duplicates.

With the lack of fights before the 70s: We'll have to start showing more fights from the top fighters that we've already shown, or go really far down the rankings and show fighters that maybe we shouldn't bother with.

There are always great scraps from domestic level when we run out of world class fighters and legends.
British title fights throw up some absolute classic battles, Macklin vs Moore type battles.

[Tomasino]

This has turned out to be one of the best threads



Keep it well clear of CS.

[Counter-puncher]

This has turned out to be one of the best threads



Keep it well clear of CS.

[handsofstone]

This has turned out to be one of the best threads



Keep it well clear of CS.

X2

[Counter-puncher]

That might be why it never got the nod then?

It may well have been chosen.

It's very sad that there is so little footage from before the 70s.

It's easy to forget what a backwards bunch of losers we were back then.

[davie]

That might be why it never got the nod then?

It may well have been chosen.

It's very sad that there is so little footage from before the 70s.

It's easy to forget what a backwards bunch of losers we were back then.

Put it in context though, 50 years before we started fistic competition under the marquis of queensbury rules, we were burning witches for entertainment on a Saturday night.