Is the Fury v Parker going to be a hard sell?

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Gone 10 with Rudenko, Guinn, and Arias. Nothing past that...
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crusader wrote:Gone 10 with Rudenko, Guinn, and Arias. Nothing past that...
Thank you! :TU:
Don't know why I can't find him on boxrec.
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KiwiRider wrote:
crusader wrote:Gone 10 with Rudenko, Guinn, and Arias. Nothing past that...
Thank you! :TU:
Don't know why I can't find him on boxrec.
Because it's 'Hughie'.

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/643611
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Just been on the MEN web site and you can buy as many tickets as you like basically in any price range.
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bigjack wrote:Just been on the MEN web site and you can buy as many tickets as you like basically in any price range.
There is a seat map option. Whilst there are plenty of greyed out parts they do not all represent sold tickets.

Most will have gone to undercard fighters which won't all get sold.

I'd guess 4000 max in there.
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We can all say Tyson’s background is the cause of the lack of popularity but part of the blame must also be on Hennessey’s shoulders, I believe if Tyson was with Hearn or Warren from the start it would of been a totally different story, yes Tyson comes across difficult to manage most of the time but what has Hennessey done for him to help raise his profile. Virtually nothing.

Tyson had a fantastic win over Wlad but he gets less recognition than AJ gets for beating an old man who nearly knocked him out! Hennessey might bang on about it but where was tyson after that win, did we see him on prime time tv, NO! Hennessey did not do his job!

We just have to look at Froch, no one cared or liked him when he was with Hennessey, he couldn’t even sell out the Nottingham Arena, he went off to hearn and sold 80k at Wembley, in the build up to that fight Hearn went balls out pushing that fight where he could to the public just like he is still doing today for every event he promotes. It is the job of a promoter to actually build his fighter, something that hearn has been good at and it’s been proved time and time again something that hennessey isn’t.

And what has hennessey done for his latest event, jack all, it took him 2 months to announce a tv deal and we still haven’t really heard from him about it, the odd radio interview and press release isn’t going to sell out the arena or help with the ppv buys and the constant Facebook posts about the youtube PPV to his 3.5k followers is not going to help. Does he not understand it’s 2 weeks to the event, he should be getting himself out there and pushing the event, it’s his duty.

Feel sorry for hughie, a world title fight that no one really knows about or cares about and it’s all down to his promoter not promoting the fight. Hughie, make sure you have your life jacket at the ready, think it’s time to jump ship.
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Glass Joe wrote:We can all say Tyson’s background is the cause of the lack of popularity but part of the blame must also be on Hennessey’s shoulders, I believe if Tyson was with Hearn or Warren from the start it would of been a totally different story, yes Tyson comes across difficult to manage most of the time but what has Hennessey done for him to help raise his profile. Virtually nothing.

Tyson had a fantastic win over Wlad but he gets less recognition than AJ gets for beating an old man who nearly knocked him out! Hennessey might bang on about it but where was tyson after that win, did we see him on prime time tv, NO! Hennessey did not do his job!

We just have to look at Froch, no one cared or liked him when he was with Hennessey, he couldn’t even sell out the Nottingham Arena, he went off to hearn and sold 80k at Wembley, in the build up to that fight Hearn went balls out pushing that fight where he could to the public just like he is still doing today for every event he promotes. It is the job of a promoter to actually build his fighter, something that hearn has been good at and it’s been proved time and time again something that hennessey isn’t.

And what has hennessey done for his latest event, jack all, it took him 2 months to announce a tv deal and we still haven’t really heard from him about it, the odd radio interview and press release isn’t going to sell out the arena or help with the ppv buys and the constant Facebook posts about the youtube PPV to his 3.5k followers is not going to help. Does he not understand it’s 2 weeks to the event, he should be getting himself out there and pushing the event, it’s his duty.

Feel sorry for hughie, a world title fight that no one really knows about or cares about and it’s all down to his promoter not promoting the fight. Hughie, make sure you have your life jacket at the ready, think it’s time to jump ship.
Eddie is a master promoter and I thought he was going to have a hand in this as he was hanging around the one and only presser where both fighters attended. Would have made sense if he did. But it was not to be.
Also, I don't think Hughie should have so much blame on promoting this. Parker did fly to the UK for one press conference and a bit of media mingle. Since that he has pretty much hidden away to train and has only put out half a dozen social media posts relating to the fight. Wheras Hughie has done a bit with the bizzare training photos and clips. It just collectively does not inspire the fans. The problem is you have two fairly quiet guys fighting, there is no big personality here.
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Glass Joe wrote:We can all say Tyson’s background is the cause of the lack of popularity but part of the blame must also be on Hennessey’s shoulders, I believe if Tyson was with Hearn or Warren from the start it would of been a totally different story, yes Tyson comes across difficult to manage most of the time but what has Hennessey done for him to help raise his profile. Virtually nothing.

Tyson had a fantastic win over Wlad but he gets less recognition than AJ gets for beating an old man who nearly knocked him out! Hennessey might bang on about it but where was tyson after that win, did we see him on prime time tv, NO! Hennessey did not do his job!

We just have to look at Froch, no one cared or liked him when he was with Hennessey, he couldn’t even sell out the Nottingham Arena, he went off to hearn and sold 80k at Wembley, in the build up to that fight Hearn went balls out pushing that fight where he could to the public just like he is still doing today for every event he promotes. It is the job of a promoter to actually build his fighter, something that hearn has been good at and it’s been proved time and time again something that hennessey isn’t.

And what has hennessey done for his latest event, jack all, it took him 2 months to announce a tv deal and we still haven’t really heard from him about it, the odd radio interview and press release isn’t going to sell out the arena or help with the ppv buys and the constant Facebook posts about the youtube PPV to his 3.5k followers is not going to help. Does he not understand it’s 2 weeks to the event, he should be getting himself out there and pushing the event, it’s his duty.

Feel sorry for hughie, a world title fight that no one really knows about or cares about and it’s all down to his promoter not promoting the fight. Hughie, make sure you have your life jacket at the ready, think it’s time to jump ship.
Let's not forget under Hennessy Tyson went from debut to undisputed world number one at the weight and multi-title world champion. As for his profile his biggest fight, (and indeed most recent fight), was on Sky Box Office, the same UK platform as Joshua Klitschko and Mayweather Pacquiao. It's a long way from YouTube.

So it's not all bad. Hennessy though can't do anything for him in the ring, and that's what will let both Furys down. They're just not entertaining enough. Yes, Hearn would promote them better than anyone else. But they're not getting anywhere remotely close to Joshua levels.
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Well I hope the fight is going ahead.
Joseph got on a plane today in Vegas and should be in the UK Sunday. Then he will aclimatise and finish working out in Haye's gym until the fight.
Let's hope he does some work on promoting the fight now he is in country.
It sure needs it :verysad:
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I watched an interview with Peter on some obscure YouTube channel today and he basically went all gangster on Eddie! He wasn't messing around! It was like he was back on the wing in jail. I think old Peter isn't anywhere near the calm guy he's perceived to be. I also think he's bankrolled this. He's no feather duster man.
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KiwiRider wrote:Well I hope the fight is going ahead.
Joseph got on a plane today in Vegas and should be in the UK Sunday. Then he will aclimatise and finish working out in Haye's gym until the fight.
Let's hope he does some work on promoting the fight now he is in country.
It sure needs it :verysad:
It's a huge shame for Parker that the fight is happening like this. He'll basically have zero chance of raising his profile. Everything the Fury's are involved in just turns into a joke. They should have just gone ahead with the fight in NZ instead of faking an injury and ending up in this mess.
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Any free ticket/"competitions" kicking about yet?
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Boxerbeetle wrote:
KiwiRider wrote:Well I hope the fight is going ahead.
Joseph got on a plane today in Vegas and should be in the UK Sunday. Then he will aclimatise and finish working out in Haye's gym until the fight.
Let's hope he does some work on promoting the fight now he is in country.
It sure needs it :verysad:
It's a huge shame for Parker that the fight is happening like this. He'll basically have zero chance of raising his profile. Everything the Fury's are involved in just turns into a joke. They should have just gone ahead with the fight in NZ instead of faking an injury and ending up in this mess.
The whole plan was to get it over here, by fair means or foul....
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mickey1975 wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:
KiwiRider wrote:Well I hope the fight is going ahead.
Joseph got on a plane today in Vegas and should be in the UK Sunday. Then he will aclimatise and finish working out in Haye's gym until the fight.
Let's hope he does some work on promoting the fight now he is in country.
It sure needs it :verysad:
It's a huge shame for Parker that the fight is happening like this. He'll basically have zero chance of raising his profile. Everything the Fury's are involved in just turns into a joke. They should have just gone ahead with the fight in NZ instead of faking an injury and ending up in this mess.
The whole plan was to get it over here, by fair means or foul....
I don't understand why Parker doesn't just move on to another fight altogether. Hughie isn't even a Top 20 ranked contender.
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Boxerbeetle wrote:
KiwiRider wrote:Well I hope the fight is going ahead.
Joseph got on a plane today in Vegas and should be in the UK Sunday. Then he will aclimatise and finish working out in Haye's gym until the fight.
Let's hope he does some work on promoting the fight now he is in country.
It sure needs it :verysad:
It's a huge shame for Parker that the fight is happening like this. He'll basically have zero chance of raising his profile. Everything the Fury's are involved in just turns into a joke. They should have just gone ahead with the fight in NZ instead of faking an injury and ending up in this mess.
Parkers profile is already high in NZ. It wouldnt make a blind bit of difference. The only way his profile considerably rises, is he was to box the likes of Bellew, Whyte and ultimately Joshua.
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lefty wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:
KiwiRider wrote:Well I hope the fight is going ahead.
Joseph got on a plane today in Vegas and should be in the UK Sunday. Then he will aclimatise and finish working out in Haye's gym until the fight.
Let's hope he does some work on promoting the fight now he is in country.
It sure needs it :verysad:
It's a huge shame for Parker that the fight is happening like this. He'll basically have zero chance of raising his profile. Everything the Fury's are involved in just turns into a joke. They should have just gone ahead with the fight in NZ instead of faking an injury and ending up in this mess.
Parkers profile is already high in NZ. It wouldnt make a blind bit of difference. The only way his profile considerably rises, is he was to box the likes of Bellew, Whyte and ultimately Joshua.
Anything less than a decisive KO win over Hughie Fury does nothing to elevate his status. I think nothing of Hughie so a hard fought decision win would mean jack sh*t. It would just mean they both suck.

Considering Parker's struggles with Andy Ruiz Jr. I'm already in the "Parker sucks" camp.
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gilgamesh wrote:
lefty wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:
It's a huge shame for Parker that the fight is happening like this. He'll basically have zero chance of raising his profile. Everything the Fury's are involved in just turns into a joke. They should have just gone ahead with the fight in NZ instead of faking an injury and ending up in this mess.
Parkers profile is already high in NZ. It wouldnt make a blind bit of difference. The only way his profile considerably rises, is he was to box the likes of Bellew, Whyte and ultimately Joshua.
Anything less than a decisive KO win over Hughie Fury does nothing to elevate his status. I think nothing of Hughie so a hard fought decision win would mean jack sh*t. It would just mean they both suck.

Considering Parker's struggles with Andy Ruiz Jr. I'm already in the "Parker sucks" camp.
I think Hughie will beat him.
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lefty wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
lefty wrote: Parkers profile is already high in NZ. It wouldnt make a blind bit of difference. The only way his profile considerably rises, is he was to box the likes of Bellew, Whyte and ultimately Joshua.
Anything less than a decisive KO win over Hughie Fury does nothing to elevate his status. I think nothing of Hughie so a hard fought decision win would mean jack sh*t. It would just mean they both suck.

Considering Parker's struggles with Andy Ruiz Jr. I'm already in the "Parker sucks" camp.
I think Hughie will beat him.
Wouldn't be too shocking to me. I still won't be impressed by either of them. You gotta beat better fighters than Parker to be somebody in this sport. I just hope to see Hughie knocked out by somebody. If I can't get Tyson knocked on his worthless ass Hughie will make a decent substitute.

Wish Hughie was getting a crack at AJ instead of Parker.
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gilgamesh wrote:
lefty wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
Anything less than a decisive KO win over Hughie Fury does nothing to elevate his status. I think nothing of Hughie so a hard fought decision win would mean jack sh*t. It would just mean they both suck.

Considering Parker's struggles with Andy Ruiz Jr. I'm already in the "Parker sucks" camp.
I think Hughie will beat him.
Wouldn't be too shocking to me. I still won't be impressed by either of them. You gotta beat better fighters than Parker to be somebody in this sport. I just hope to see Hughie knocked out by somebody. If I can't get Tyson knocked on his worthless ass Hughie will make a decent substitute.

Wish Hughie was getting a crack at AJ instead of Parker.
:lol: ... I agree. I dont particularly rate either of them either.
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gilgamesh wrote:
mickey1975 wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:
It's a huge shame for Parker that the fight is happening like this. He'll basically have zero chance of raising his profile. Everything the Fury's are involved in just turns into a joke. They should have just gone ahead with the fight in NZ instead of faking an injury and ending up in this mess.
The whole plan was to get it over here, by fair means or foul....
I don't understand why Parker doesn't just move on to another fight altogether. Hughie isn't even a Top 20 ranked contender.
Hughie is the WBO mandatory challenger isn't he? If he wasn't then I think Team Parker would have moved on by now instead of wasting their time with all this but that belt is Joseph's ticket to riches if he can hang on to it. Its a bit like BJS having the WBO belt really, Billy Joe knows that GGG wants it just to complete the set so he's holding on to cash in as much as he possibly can. Duco realise that the belt could be the key to a future unification with AJ or Wilder so they have no option but to honour the mandatories, if Parker wins I think they may try to cash in as quickly as possible
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Whats is the total purse for both boxers any one know? Will Hughie get more than £10,000???
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Hughie is on £200. Mick will make 50 notes after the PPV numbers come in.

Im willing to bet that the official stream will have about 1000/1500 viewers. A lot of non ppv regular livestreams with popular youtubers can get less than that.
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gilgamesh wrote:
lefty wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
Anything less than a decisive KO win over Hughie Fury does nothing to elevate his status. I think nothing of Hughie so a hard fought decision win would mean jack sh*t. It would just mean they both suck.

Considering Parker's struggles with Andy Ruiz Jr. I'm already in the "Parker sucks" camp.
I think Hughie will beat him.
Wouldn't be too shocking to me. I still won't be impressed by either of them. You gotta beat better fighters than Parker to be somebody in this sport. I just hope to see Hughie knocked out by somebody. If I can't get Tyson knocked on his worthless ass Hughie will make a decent substitute.

Wish Hughie was getting a crack at AJ instead of Parker.
Joshua would level Fury inside 6 rounds
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samwbr wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
lefty wrote: I think Hughie will beat him.
Wouldn't be too shocking to me. I still won't be impressed by either of them. You gotta beat better fighters than Parker to be somebody in this sport. I just hope to see Hughie knocked out by somebody. If I can't get Tyson knocked on his worthless ass Hughie will make a decent substitute.

Wish Hughie was getting a crack at AJ instead of Parker.
Joshua would level Fury inside 6 rounds
We don't know how good Hughie is. That Kassi fight was f*cking awful though and not mentioned enough on here.
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How did Hughie become mandatory? He's fought nobody of note, he's inactive; I have half a memory of Peter saying they were looking at opponents to build his profile because of his illness meaning he couldn't fight anyone decent. Next thing you know he's at world title level.
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