Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 02 Jun 2019, 03:49
by dagilechia
ironbeard wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 03:45
What are you talking about? Two of three had Ruiz up.
so only one card was wrong at it had only one round scored wrong. 1 out of 18 is too few to call it ''robbery, corruption''
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 02 Jun 2019, 03:49
by Bard of Boxrec
Excitedly writing off a proven guy as a bum after a freak loss is something that has happened since the dawn of boxing, by people who don’t understand the sport.
Every great loses. Wlad lost more than once to people worse than Ruiz and people still come up with ways to call him great .
Joshua will learn from this and come back better, as all the greats have.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 02 Jun 2019, 03:56
by DrDuke
Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 03:49
Joshua will learn from this and come back better, as all the greats have.
If Joshua learns, how to cope with adversity, he will. He was knocked down in two pro-fights. He looked like he didn't know what to do after that. Wlad let him go. Ruiz didn't.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 02 Jun 2019, 06:09
by candyslim
DrDuke wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 03:44
That's the truth, but Joshua still had his flaws and today he did a huge mistake. So he was kinda exposed in some sense. His jumping on Ruiz was amateurish. After he was knocked down, he looked like he didn't know what to do. Again. Cause the same was in Wlad fight.
I was picking The Gypsy King over Joshua and now I'll do it even more confidently.
I don't think this fight increases Fury's chances. Don't get me wrong, he still has good chances, but Fury is no kind of puncher so I don't see him hurting Joshua like Ruiz did. He is also way taller than Ruiz which is much more to AJ's liking.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 02 Jun 2019, 08:14
by Ruthless-RKO
KiwiRider wrote: ↑25 May 2019, 16:30
Oh for sure. He's on the drugs that got Miller banned + what killed River Phenix + what AL Pachino took at the end of Scarface. There couldn't be any other outcome
Don’t knock him
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 02 Jun 2019, 08:15
by Ruthless-RKO
candyslim wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 02:13
Well done Ruthless. First man to call it
If ONLY I believed it more than I did. Messed up on PTBF.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 02 Jun 2019, 08:15
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 02 Jun 2019, 08:48
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 02 Jun 2019, 09:51
by Menty
What’s interesting is that Joshua hasn’t really improved despite gaining experience in several big fights. He clearly doesn’t know how to handle pressure, his chin is questionable as is his stamina. Whilst McCracken is a proven trainer at international amateur level, I wonder if Joshua would benefit from a top class American coach, or is he just another Bruno, flattered by a poor division?
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 02 Jun 2019, 11:51
by Saurfang
Haven't posted here in about 4 years, but I had to learning the outcome of this fight. And it make me think immediately of that guy who used to post on here and hype AJ to the moon...Kalan or something? Talking about how AJ would have destroyed Ali, Foreman, Lewis..etc.. I wonder what he's thinking now.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 02 Jun 2019, 12:03
by ValMar
Saurfang wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 11:51
Haven't posted here in about 4 years, but I had to learning the outcome of this fight. And it make me think immediately of that guy who used to post on here and hype AJ to the moon...Kalan or something? Talking about how AJ would have destroyed Ali, Foreman, Lewis..etc.. I wonder what he's thinking now.
I am not Kalan (or something), but I would like to remind you that all the mentioned great champions had KO/TKO losses in their careers. This is boxing, HW boxing.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 02 Jun 2019, 12:04
by Ruthless-RKO
ValMar wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 12:03
I am not Kalan (or something), but I would like to remind you that all the mentioned great champions had KO/TKO losses in their careers. This is boxing, HW boxing.
Big mistake trying to ‘marinate’ a HW boxing match.
HW’s can get KO’d anytime anywhere.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 02 Jun 2019, 12:05
by ValMar
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 12:04
Big mistake trying to ‘marinate’ a HW boxing match.
HW’s can get KO’d anytime anywhere.
This !
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 02 Jun 2019, 12:11
by Saurfang
Yes. Thank you. I'm aware it's heavyweight boxing and all the greats have lost and come back. Hope you enjoy the rest of your weekend. Take care.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 02 Jun 2019, 12:13
by fistic mystic
Saurfang wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 12:11
Yes. Thank you. I'm aware it's heavyweight boxing and all the greats have lost and come back. Hope you enjoy the rest of your weekend. Take care.
Most of the greats have lost.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 02 Jun 2019, 12:15
by dagilechia
Joshua is not (and will never be) one of the greatest ever though.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 02 Jun 2019, 12:16
by Saurfang
I stand corrected. Most. Thank you.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 02 Jun 2019, 12:18
by ValMar
Saurfang wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 12:11
Yes. Thank you. I'm aware it's heavyweight boxing and all the greats have lost and come back. Hope you enjoy the rest of your weekend. Take care.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 02 Jun 2019, 12:22
by ewenhay
dagilechia wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 12:15
Joshua is not (and will never be) one of the greatest ever though.
Nobody that limited will ever be considered a great.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 02 Jun 2019, 12:22
by ValMar
dagilechia wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 12:15
Joshua is not (and will never be) one of the greatest ever though.
Dagilechia, you might be right, but I would like that you are wrong.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 02 Jun 2019, 12:32
by Ruthless-RKO
dagilechia wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 12:15
Joshua is not (and will never be) one of the greatest ever though.
Who knows. His career isn’t over yet.
Unless he just decided cal it a career after this year.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 02 Jun 2019, 12:40
by candyslim
I can't see him walking away just yet. Him being a bit strapped for cash n' all
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 02 Jun 2019, 12:42
by dagilechia
of course, prime Wlad has embarassing losses as well, but i have always thought that prime Wlad was a better fight than Joshua, no doubt
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 02 Jun 2019, 12:49
by Ruthless-RKO
candyslim wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 12:40
I can't see him walking away just yet. Him being a bit strapped for cash n' all
Hearn will want another cash cow before he lets AJ retire.
Buatsi?
Kelly?
Okolie??
Fowler?
Cheeseman?
Fitz?
Being a PPV, you gotta have that appeal.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 02 Jun 2019, 13:12
by candyslim
Those guys couldn't fill his shoes ... literally or figuratively