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mickey1975 wrote: ↑06 Apr 2023, 10:50

tonyevs wrote: ↑06 Apr 2023, 10:45

mickey1975 wrote: ↑06 Apr 2023, 04:57
AJ is top 5. He faced clearly the number one in Wlad and at least the no 2 at the time in Wilder in their home countries. But won't face better Heavies? Please name those better than Wlad at the time. Or Wilder for that matter.

I don't feel Andy Ruiz would beat Fury .. I think it's an easy night for Fury. A hesitant AJ outboxed him quite easily so nothing to suggest Fury would struggle.

Wlad and the first Wilder fight was a few years ago now .. we talking about the 2023 Fury not wanting to face the top guys in the division; that said .. he didn't rematch Wlad did he

Fury could have forgotten ght both AJ and Usyk within the last 6 MTHS .. but negotiated himself out of it with both; we know this is true.

No, WE don't. But that's been done to death. I don't know why everyone keeps going on about Andy Ruiz, I clearly meant John. The 2023 Fury will box and comfortably beat either Usyk or AJ this year, and i expect all the regulars to start backtracking again saying 'oh, i never said he'd lose' like they were doing when it looked like it was made for April.

Yes we do, because Sugar Hill outed the fact that he wasn't in camp with Fury and wouldn't be in camp with Fury anytime soon. And because he outed him Fat John wanted him sacked

Mickey I had Fury down to beat both Usyk and AJ and he was my favourite active fighter but I've had enough of his antics now. It's become a massive farce now.

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote: ↑06 Apr 2023, 11:25

mickey1975 wrote: ↑06 Apr 2023, 10:50

tonyevs wrote: ↑06 Apr 2023, 10:45

I don't feel Andy Ruiz would beat Fury .. I think it's an easy night for Fury. A hesitant AJ outboxed him quite easily so nothing to suggest Fury would struggle.

Wlad and the first Wilder fight was a few years ago now .. we talking about the 2023 Fury not wanting to face the top guys in the division; that said .. he didn't rematch Wlad did he

Fury could have forgotten ght both AJ and Usyk within the last 6 MTHS .. but negotiated himself out of it with both; we know this is true.

No, WE don't. But that's been done to death. I don't know why everyone keeps going on about Andy Ruiz, I clearly meant John. The 2023 Fury will box and comfortably beat either Usyk or AJ this year, and i expect all the regulars to start backtracking again saying 'oh, i never said he'd lose' like they were doing when it looked like it was made for April.

Yes we do, because Sugar Hill outed the fact that he wasn't in camp with Fury and wouldn't be in camp with Fury anytime soon. And because he outed him Fat John wanted him sacked

Mickey I had Fury down to beat both Usyk and AJ and he was my favourite active fighter but I've had enough of his antics now. It's become a massive farce now.

I agree with Usyk not AJ.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑06 Apr 2023, 10:50

tonyevs wrote: ↑06 Apr 2023, 10:45

mickey1975 wrote: ↑06 Apr 2023, 04:57
AJ is top 5. He faced clearly the number one in Wlad and at least the no 2 at the time in Wilder in their home countries. But won't face better Heavies? Please name those better than Wlad at the time. Or Wilder for that matter.

I don't feel Andy Ruiz would beat Fury .. I think it's an easy night for Fury. A hesitant AJ outboxed him quite easily so nothing to suggest Fury would struggle.

Wlad and the first Wilder fight was a few years ago now .. we talking about the 2023 Fury not wanting to face the top guys in the division; that said .. he didn't rematch Wlad did he

Fury could have forgotten ght both AJ and Usyk within the last 6 MTHS .. but negotiated himself out of it with both; we know this is true.

No, WE don't. But that's been done to death. I don't know why everyone keeps going on about Andy Ruiz, I clearly meant John. The 2023 Fury will box and comfortably beat either Usyk or AJ this year, and i expect all the regulars to start backtracking again saying 'oh, i never said he'd lose' like they were doing when it looked like it was made for April.

Sorry Mick - but you seem to be in denial when it comes to Tyson Fury. We only recently had all the evidence any sane and intelligent person would need. You have previously on a number of occasions stated you only make certain comments to troll for your amusement - so can only assume thats your game now too.

John Ruiz has not fought for 13 years - what relevance does he have regarding if Fury would beat him? again, I assume its a troll comment

From memory - I think the majority of regulars have lent towards Fury winning if he fought either AJ or Usyk; the point is Fury has thus far done everything he can to avoid fighting any of them to prove it.

I guess you don’t read anyone else’s posts!

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑05 Apr 2023, 15:32

Ricky wrote: ↑03 Apr 2023, 06:14 Just watched the highlights. Joshua really has done well to have the career he's had - because let's be honest, he's not very good at boxing. His footwork is awful, his stance is so wide, everything bar his hands is so slow. He's no natural ability to ride or slip punches, he ate loads of right hands that seemed so obvious where they were coming from, if Franklin could bang he'd have had AJ out of there.

Joshua would be best just sticking to bowling over no-hopers to keep his UnderArmour & Lynx deals on the table for now, then hang them up.

In years to come he'll be fondly remembered as the guy who asked the Saudi Arabians for 3 hiphip hoorays but then giving them 5 hiphip hoorays.

It must be tough for the likes of Bruno to watch this set of heavyweights. Bruno would have put a jab on Joshua/Whyte etc and got them out of there. He'd struggle with the toughness of Joyce but I'd have him beating Dubois by KO too. He doesn't get enough respect for me. Joshua is not on his level at all but the majority of fight fans would have Joshua above him.

- What you been smokin, out of that cracked pot at the end of your rainbow?

Be tougher for Brit proto simians of today if Bruno were prime with PoochBelly Toby, Polecat Toody and the rest climbing all over each other in frothing epileptic fits accusing Bruno of being a PED cheat.

I mean just look that all them muscly muscles bursting at the seams!

I liked Big Bruno who gave Tyson some of his toughest fights, but he retired prime age 34 for a heavywt with scarcely 170 rounds accumulated because he couldn't hold a punch, probably the current source of his mental problems. He'd KO a Kownacki or 80% of Deyonce/Blubber opponents, but he would be hard pressed to beat the Top Boxrec 15 or 20. Even faded Chisora gives him a run for his money, another Brit in desperate need of retirement.

The way it was, is, and always shall be for the foreseeable Future

ashall2 wrote: ↑02 Apr 2023, 03:58 Joyce has got to be the most overrated fighter going. Any top 5 heavyweight will beat him, he takes far too many shots. He looked poor against Takam then beat Parker who is absolutely shite these days and you get clowns saying he’d beat Usyk off the back of it

Top 5 plus Zhang *

joshj909 wrote: ↑24 Jun 2024, 11:14

Wow. When was that original tweet from?

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑24 Jun 2024, 11:48

joshj909 wrote: ↑24 Jun 2024, 11:14

Wow. When was that original tweet from?

Less than 2 hours before...

joshj909 wrote: ↑24 Jun 2024, 13:32

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑24 Jun 2024, 11:48

joshj909 wrote: ↑24 Jun 2024, 11:14

Wow. When was that original tweet from?

Less than 2 hours before...

That’s bad!

What a cock up surely to Christ there's been correspondence between the board and the Calleros team since March

saw this today, not good is it.

https://boxing-social.com/news/ukad-rel ... -who-died/

UKAD Release Statement After Giving Four Year Ban To Boxer Who Died

“UK Anti-Doping (UKAD) has today received information regarding the death of Mexican professional boxer Moises Calleros.

“UKAD received this information shortly after publishing details of the outcome from a case concerning Mr Calleros in accordance with the UK Anti-Doping Rules.

“Unortunately, UKAD had no information regarding Mr Calleros’ sad passing at the time of publication and has now removed all details of this case from its channels.”

While it is an embarrassing cock up, on a side note, I thought they had learned their lesson after Liam Cameron and stopped with the draconian bans for recreational drugs.

4 yrs for coke, 1 yr max it appears for actual performance enhancing drugs. Madness

WestEndRiot wrote: ↑25 Jun 2024, 04:36 While it is an embarrassing cock up, on a side note, I thought they had learned their lesson after Liam Cameron and stopped with the draconian bans for recreational drugs.

4 yrs for coke, 1 yr max it appears for actual performance enhancing drugs. Madness

Exactly, if your reading this Robert Smith, can you just go now before you embarrass yourself and the board any longer

handsofstone wrote: ↑25 Jun 2024, 07:14

WestEndRiot wrote: ↑25 Jun 2024, 04:36 While it is an embarrassing cock up, on a side note, I thought they had learned their lesson after Liam Cameron and stopped with the draconian bans for recreational drugs.

4 yrs for coke, 1 yr max it appears for actual performance enhancing drugs. Madness

Exactly, if your reading this Robert Smith, can you just go now before you embarrass yourself and the board any longer

so true, poor Liam. Good to see him back on telly and accomplishing himself well and also being humble and without bitterness before and after. good on you Liam Cameron. Would love to see him win a title. I had him winning that fight.