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Coco wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025, 13:19

johninmanchester wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025, 13:15

veriton wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025, 01:25 The Saudis have no intention of playing fair, it's not something they're known for. Last night's fight showed how much this country loves boxing, we don't even need anyone 'solving boxing'.

The second someone invents a tiny, powerful and removable battery for cars and machines, the Saudis will be stuck in the desert with nothing anyway. It can't be too far away.

The Arabs are well aware of this.

The founder of Dubai, Sheikh Rashid, was asked about the future of his country. He replied, "My grandfather rode a camel, my father rode a camel, I ride a Mercedes, my son rides a Land Rover, and my grandson is going to ride a Land Rover…but my great-grandson is going to have to ride a camel again."

The Arabs will have made 100 X more than enough to live off their investments for eternity

As long as they don't waste all their money......

johninmanchester wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025, 06:08

Coco wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025, 13:19

johninmanchester wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025, 13:15

The Arabs are well aware of this.

The founder of Dubai, Sheikh Rashid, was asked about the future of his country. He replied, "My grandfather rode a camel, my father rode a camel, I ride a Mercedes, my son rides a Land Rover, and my grandson is going to ride a Land Rover…but my great-grandson is going to have to ride a camel again."

The Arabs will have made 100 X more than enough to live off their investments for eternity

As long as they don't waste all their money......

That's the point, I think. The sheikh in question was commenting on the ridiculous amounts of money being wasted on nonsense projects.

Luckily Saudi have got all that under control as they.... *waves hand in the direction of NOEM project*.... or not

johninmanchester wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025, 06:08

Coco wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025, 13:19

johninmanchester wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025, 13:15

The Arabs are well aware of this.

The founder of Dubai, Sheikh Rashid, was asked about the future of his country. He replied, "My grandfather rode a camel, my father rode a camel, I ride a Mercedes, my son rides a Land Rover, and my grandson is going to ride a Land Rover…but my great-grandson is going to have to ride a camel again."

The Arabs will have made 100 X more than enough to live off their investments for eternity

As long as they don't waste all their money......

That's the point, I think. The sheikh in question was commenting on the ridiculous amounts of money being wasted on nonsense projects.

Luckily Saudi have got all that under control as they.... *waves hand in the direction of NOEM project*.... or not

Deserter wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025, 07:27

johninmanchester wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025, 06:08

Coco wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025, 13:19

The Arabs will have made 100 X more than enough to live off their investments for eternity

As long as they don't waste all their money......

That's the point, I think. The sheikh in question was commenting on the ridiculous amounts of money being wasted on nonsense projects.

Luckily Saudi have got all that under control as they.... *waves hand in the direction of NOEM project*.... or not

Just for the sake of clarity, Sheikh Rashid, the then ruler of Dubai, passed away in 1990, so when he said that he was talking about the dangers of over-reliance on oil revenues and the need to diversify the economy. His legacy has been carried on by his son, Sheikh Mohammed, which is why oil is now less than 1% of Dubai's GDP.
Up the road in Abu Dhabi there have been some very smart investments, especially recently in the AI space,
It's nonsensical to talk about "Arabs" as one homogenous entity, as this doesn't reflect the diversity of the region and the fact that there is a big difference in governmental approaches.
The UAE and Lebanon, for example, couldn't be more different on pretty much every level imaginable.

Deserter wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025, 07:27

johninmanchester wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025, 06:08

Coco wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025, 13:19

The Arabs will have made 100 X more than enough to live off their investments for eternity

As long as they don't waste all their money......

That's the point, I think. The sheikh in question was commenting on the ridiculous amounts of money being wasted on nonsense projects.

Luckily Saudi have got all that under control as they.... *waves hand in the direction of NOEM project*.... or not

Just for the sake of clarity, Sheikh Rashid, the then ruler of Dubai, passed away in 1990, so when he said that he was talking about the dangers of over-reliance on oil revenues and the need to diversify the economy. His legacy has been carried on by his son, Sheikh Mohammed, which is why oil is now less than 1% of Dubai's GDP.
Up the road in Abu Dhabi there have been some very smart investments, especially recently in the AI space,
It's nonsensical to talk about "Arabs" as one homogenous entity, as this doesn't reflect the diversity of the region and the fact that there is a big difference in governmental approaches.
The UAE and Lebanon, for example, couldn't be more different on pretty much every level imaginable.

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025, 09:21

Deserter wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025, 07:27

johninmanchester wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025, 06:08

That's the point, I think. The sheikh in question was commenting on the ridiculous amounts of money being wasted on nonsense projects.

Luckily Saudi have got all that under control as they.... *waves hand in the direction of NOEM project*.... or not

Just for the sake of clarity, Sheikh Rashid, the then ruler of Dubai, passed away in 1990, so when he said that he was talking about the dangers of over-reliance on oil revenues and the need to diversify the economy. His legacy has been carried on by his son, Sheikh Mohammed, which is why oil is now less than 1% of Dubai's GDP.
Up the road in Abu Dhabi there have been some very smart investments, especially recently in the AI space,
It's nonsensical to talk about "Arabs" as one homogenous entity, as this doesn't reflect the diversity of the region and the fact that there is a big difference in governmental approaches.
The UAE and Lebanon, for example, couldn't be more different on pretty much every level imaginable.

Very intelligent and insightful post

Deserter wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025, 11:00

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025, 09:21

Deserter wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025, 07:27
Just for the sake of clarity, Sheikh Rashid, the then ruler of Dubai, passed away in 1990, so when he said that he was talking about the dangers of over-reliance on oil revenues and the need to diversify the economy. His legacy has been carried on by his son, Sheikh Mohammed, which is why oil is now less than 1% of Dubai's GDP.
Up the road in Abu Dhabi there have been some very smart investments, especially recently in the AI space,
It's nonsensical to talk about "Arabs" as one homogenous entity, as this doesn't reflect the diversity of the region and the fact that there is a big difference in governmental approaches.
The UAE and Lebanon, for example, couldn't be more different on pretty much every level imaginable.

Very intelligent and insightful post

Cheers Sean. At least you appreciated it, even if John didn't (also not sure why he thinks I'm you )

veriton wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025, 01:06 Just read Boxing Scene are being frozen out of attending events, including Benn v Eubank.

Must admit as a BN subscriber, it didn't sit well that former editors and writers had switched to a free internet website in direct competition with BN, and therefore undermining the old girl.

Wake up call wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025, 12:41

veriton wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025, 01:06 Just read Boxing Scene are being frozen out of attending events, including Benn v Eubank.

Must admit as a BN subscriber, it didn't sit well that former editors and writers had switched to a free internet website in direct competition with BN, and therefore undermining the old girl.

I don't see how that has anything to do with BN.

It was a Ring magazine sponsored event. Ring is run by Rick Reeno, who used to own Boxing Scene.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑11 May 2025, 12:11 I don't like hearing stuff like that from the host. I'd automatically not want to give him anything. I did pay a little to Tris Dixons Boxing Life Stories for a while, but Tris said it in a friendly way and the content was different and brilliant.

veriton wrote: ↑11 May 2025, 11:16 Steadman says he is quitting the Opening Bell podcast again, but this time sounds like he is leaving for real due to a lack of paying subscribers.

Shame as it's the best boxing pod out there, in my opinion.

They upped the number of pods to give something extra to subscribers so now he's doing twice the work and still not getting the going rate (in his words).

Still a gamble to quit though as it surely boosts his profile and keeps him relevant.

I listen to a pod called Making Sense with Sam Harris and it fades out halfway through if you haven't paid so maybe they should try that route before he bails.

Glass Joe wrote: ↑11 May 2025, 13:54

veriton wrote: ↑11 May 2025, 11:16 Steadman says he is quitting the Opening Bell podcast again, but this time sounds like he is leaving for real due to a lack of paying subscribers.

Shame as it's the best boxing pod out there, in my opinion.

They upped the number of pods to give something extra to subscribers so now he's doing twice the work and still not getting the going rate (in his words).

Still a gamble to quit though as it surely boosts his profile and keeps him relevant.

I listen to a pod called Making Sense with Sam Harris and it fades out halfway through if you haven't paid so maybe they should try that route before he bails.

i subscribe to their patron as support as i like to listen to it at work or on a walk.

the first problem is there is 4 people on the pay role. thats totally unnecessary. just pay Matt and Alex they can learn to upload and post thats double pay over night.

i doubt 99% of podcasts make a living off it.

i dont think boxing has that audience thats willing to pay to support most will just be hard core fans, most of us here probably have a fire stick so would rather just listen to it for free. promoters dont really make money off the hard core fans mostly its the casuals.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑11 May 2025, 13:28 I know a guy who does the most successful snooker one with Shaun Murphy. They seem to be flying.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑11 May 2025, 12:11 I don't like hearing stuff like that from the host. I'd automatically not want to give him anything. I did pay a little to Tris Dixons Boxing Life Stories for a while, but Tris said it in a friendly way and the content was different and brilliant.

Deserter wrote: ↑11 May 2025, 16:13

mickey1975 wrote: ↑11 May 2025, 12:11 I don't like hearing stuff like that from the host. I'd automatically not want to give him anything. I did pay a little to Tris Dixons Boxing Life Stories for a while, but Tris said it in a friendly way and the content was different and brilliant.

I listened to it and while it's my favourite current boxing podcast, I ended up turning the episode off after his monologue as it just left a bad taste in the mouth.
I'm sympathetic to his situation, but as others have already mentioned, podcasts are probably the hardest form of media to monetize at the best of times. A vertical like boxing isn't attractive to advertisers, is relatively over-saturated and has a fanbase used to consuming this type of content for free, so I'm not sure what kind of outcome he was expecting.
The bottom line is that as with any business, if you're not generating the revenue you hoped for, the onus on you is to work out why and improve your product or service (or pivot entirely). He's channeling his energy in the wrong places and unfortunately he came across as very bitter, which just alienates people unnecessarily.
BTW, agree completely re. Boxing Life Stories.