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AngryGoon38 wrote:Vinny Pazienza vs Jorge Paez at 135.

15 rounds.

8)

I think Pazienza's better footwork, consistent attack, and versatility allows him to edge a decision in a fast paced, competitive fight.


Next up: Mike McCallum vs. Nino Benvenuti

At 154 or 160 (if you think there's a difference)

My2Sense wrote:

AngryGoon38 wrote:Vinny Pazienza vs Jorge Paez at 135.

15 rounds.

8)

I think Pazienza's better footwork, consistent attack, and versatility allows him to edge a decision in a fast paced, competitive fight.


Next up: Mike McCallum vs. Nino Benvenuti

At 154 or 160 (if you think there's a difference)

at 160,i'll say McCallum wins a ud in 12.likely stops Nino in 14 if it's a 15 rd'er.

Greg Haugen vs. Tony Canzoneri

15 rounds.

no 3 kd rule.merciless old fashioned style ref.the type that doesnt stop fights.

AngryGoon38 wrote:

My2Sense wrote:

AngryGoon38 wrote:Vinny Pazienza vs Jorge Paez at 135.

15 rounds.

8)

I think Pazienza's better footwork, consistent attack, and versatility allows him to edge a decision in a fast paced, competitive fight.


Next up: Mike McCallum vs. Nino Benvenuti

At 154 or 160 (if you think there's a difference)

at 160,i'll say McCallum wins a ud in 12.likely stops Nino in 14 if it's a 15 rd'er.

Greg Haugen vs. Tony Canzoneri

15 rounds.

no 3 kd rule.merciless old fashioned style ref.the type that doesnt stop fights.

no answer yet? :(

i'll take my own hypothetical then.

i say,stylistically,this match is great.kind of like paz and haugen.

i'll pick Canzoneri though based on what i've seen of em.

A Relatively close but basically clear cut UD win for Tony.


next one:

Archie Moore vs. Dwight Muhammed Quawi at cruiserweight.

15 rounds.

Muhammed Qawi in an easy UD. I dont see him Losing,

Frank Bruno v Valuev 12 Rds

Bruno throws his long hard jab into the big Russian which manages
to keep Valuev of him for the early going. Big bombs reign down, but
Bruno still manages to survive.

By the end of the fight the Bruno fans breathe a sigh of relief as he
wins a SD over the 2 round period.

Michael Spinks vs Harold Johnson 12 rounds peak for peak.

Robinson wrote:Bruno throws his long hard jab into the big Russian which manages
to keep Valuev of him for the early going. Big bombs reign down, but
Bruno still manages to survive.

By the end of the fight the Bruno fans breathe a sigh of relief as he
wins a SD over the 2 round period.

Michael Spinks vs Harold Johnson 12 rounds peak for peak.

Spinks wins by Decision.


Tommy Burns vs. Victor Galindez at 175.

15 Rounds.


no ones responding so i guess i'll take this one myself. :(

i think this one would be an epic battle of wills.back and forth throughout.

Burns wins on points.Very Narrow decision.One judge sees it even and the other two have burns up by 1 and 2 points.

i think Galindez would narrowly win the rematch though through grit and burning pride. 8)


next up:

Marvin Johnson vs. Anthony Hembrick

12 Rounds.


it takes too long for these replies!

do i now own this thread or something?....Geez Guys!

My pick in this one is Marvin Johnson wins by 11th round tko in a thrilling battle.

Hembrick was really good then got temporarily derailed/upset by Booker t. Word(i saw that fight.BRUTAL!!).

Hembrick seemed to get better for a little while after that,then he steadily faded.

Pre Word fight hembrick would lose by 8th rd tko to johnson but post-Word fight,he got a bit better for awhile until he faded into boxer oblivion.at that point in his carear,Johnson would beat him in 3 or 4 rounds.

Right after The Word fight though would be the ideal time for a good competitive effort by Hembrick.
Johnson-Hembrick would be a heckuva clash.Similiar to Sheika-Pemberton.
I see Marvin Johnson unloading a barrage of power punch flurries after getting a third wind to dump Hembrick to the canvas several times prompting the ref to step in and wave it off.

next up:

Arturo Gatti vs Alexis Arguello at 130.

15 Rounds.

Please someone reply to this hypothetical before i decide to take it myself...!!
(my patience wears thin quite rapidly)

Arguello out boxes Gatti in an exciting battle...
the middle rounds see's Gatti catching up with
Arguello, drawing him into a battle on the inside...
around the 10th round Arguello sticks behind his
jab and works his points back up...

Rematch is demanded...

Arguello UD 15.

Dwight Qawi Vs Jimmy Ellis 15 rounds.

Ellis boxes his way to a U/D, pushes Qawi off him when he gets inside.

btw robinson, sorry mate I know this isn't the rules of the thread but no WAY can i see gatti's scar-tissue- or his chin- holding out for 15 rounds vs Alexis. 8)

next up:

Chicanito Hernandez vs Arguello's victim Escalera, 15 rounds @ superfeatherweight

Counter-puncher wrote:Ellis boxes his way to a U/D, pushes Qawi off him when he gets inside.

btw robinson, sorry mate I know this isn't the rules of the thread but no WAY can i see gatti's scar-tissue- or his chin- holding out for 15 rounds vs Alexis. 8)

next up:

Chicanito Hernandez vs Arguello's victim Escalera, 15 rounds @ superfeatherweight

i looked up Chicanito Hernandez and it said "no data found".

who did this Hernandez guy fight anyway...?

did he have another name?....an aka name....?

sorry mate, Gennaro (sp?) Hernandez (nicknamed Chicanito), Oscar de La Hoya beat him in about his 17th fight.

career superfeather, about 9 defences, beat an old Zumah Nelson, one or other of the Ruelas's too i think... tall, classy boxer with fast hands......

Counter-puncher wrote:sorry mate, Gennaro (sp?) Hernandez (nicknamed Chicanito), Oscar de La Hoya beat him in about his 17th fight.

career superfeather, about 9 defences, beat an old Zumah Nelson, one or other of the Ruelas's too i think... tall, classy boxer with fast hands......

ohhhh....okay.

i know exactly who you mean.i remember seeing Genero fight.

he was kinda like a "Sergio Mora" of jr LW,except,Genero was quite heavy handed.or even kinda more similiar to Margarito in some ways.

I'd have to probably say that Hernandez/Escalara goes the distance.

I'd pick Genero to win by SD,unless it's in Escalara's hometown.Overall,very very close battle of wills.


next up:

Alan Minter vs Sergio Mora

12 Rounds

bout held in England



i know what you's are thinking.

it's called,..."you answer it Goon!"

Fine then.....

i would pick Mora to win a SD.

Rallies the last few rounds to earn a 1 and 2 point lead on 2 of the 3 cards.
Judge that favors Minter has him up by 3 because he prefers Minter's Aggression and doesnt see the late Rally by Mora as being sufficient enough but the other 2 judges obviously beg to differ.

Next Up:

Gerrie Coetzee vs. Brian Minto/Vinny Maddalone/and then Mike Mollo in a 1 fight every other month tour of the states for the South African.Each bout is 10 Rounds.No 3 kd rule.Standing 8 count in effect. 8)

Winner of the Coetzee-Mollo fight gets Alexander Povetkin for a 12 round elimination finale.

I would predict that Coetzee would Tko Minto in 10 in a thrilling epic battle.Fight would be fairly even up till coetzee gets Minto against the ropes and regns a flurry of bionic bombs on minto en route to ref stoppage at 1:59 of the 10th. 8)

Against Maddalone,Coetzee measures and then times Vinnie using a counterpunch style.
Coetzee decks Maddalone 3 times en route to ref stoppage in round 7.

Versus Mike Mollo,Coetzee counterpunches and then busts up Mollo slowly but surely en route ref stoppage in round 8.

Now,against Povetkin.Fight starts with both measuring one another.Povetkin slightly the aggressor and outworks Coetzee in round 1.Round 2 sees Coetzee bring out some heavy artillary but Povetkin uses good defensive abilities and counter punches Coetzee effectively.Much the same the following 3 rounds.By round 6,Povetkin starts really finding the mark and seems to have Coetzee figured out.He gets Gerrie against the ropes and reigns in punches in bunches almost prompting a ref stoppage.
Coetzee then goes into much more of a defensive mose from there on and barely gets out of rounds 9 and 10 alive.
Povetkin decides to just settle for the outboxing method to win instead of slugging with a still dangerous Coetzee and wins by clear cut UD.

Next up:


David Tua Vs. Riddick Bowe

12 Rounds.

Good match up.

Bowe wins this one suprisingly easily. Tua explodes trying to rush
and catch Bowe with his left hook and overhand right. Bowe manages
to tie Tua up on the inside while still mixing it up well.

Some hairy moments for both men, but Tua spends a good time of the
fight catching jabs and following Bowe around.

Bowe UD.

Earnie Shavers (1976) Vs Luis Firpo (1923) 12 rounds.

i would pick Shavers by 10th Round KO.

Here's a Really Good One:

Chris Byrd vs. Larry Donald(prime vs. prime)

12 Rounds.

Chessmatch Style Duel between master boxers.

8)

Do you think it would take Shavers that long ?


The match ends in a draw, the judges struggle to pick
out the defining fighter between these two safety first
boxers. A good match for those that appreciate subtle
boxing...a snooze fest for armchair sluggers.

Oscar Bonavena (1968) Vs Ken Norton (1975) 12 rounds

-if shavers/firpo fought with a 20's style ref then yeah,it'd probably go until the 10th with shavers finally putting em down and out for good.
-if they fought with a modern type ref,then i guess shavers would probably end it around the 3rd round or 4th round.

I think the 75 version of Norton would win against the 68 version of Bonevena.Most likely by clear cut decision,possibly late round tko.

how about this one:

Herbie Hide vs. Jimmy Ellis

12 Rounds.

Minter would have destroyed Mora.

Arbachakov wrote:Minter would have destroyed Mora.

may....be, dude.

may....be....

i just think and feel though that Mora would have the right style and would fight the right fight and pull through for the narrow decision win similiar to Hamsho winning against Minter.

Now,how about Hide-Ellis...?


That'd be a Real Barn Burner Aye...?

Thats a good match up. I think both have their moments.
Ellis comes out aggressive and lands plenty of right hands
but Hide counters well. As the fight wears on, it is Ellis that
starts to land the good counter right hands.

MD win for Ellis.

Jack Dempsey (1919) Vs Sonny Liston (1960) 15 rounds.

Liston by TKO in around 6 rounds.

Carlos Monzon vs Sam Langford

theone wrote:Liston by TKO in around 6 rounds.

Carlos Monzon vs Sam Langford

i think Monzon would win but it would be pretty ugly.

Langford would press the action and i think he would deck Monzon in two different rounds.the 2nd and the 10th.

other than that,there would be alot of jabbing from Monzon and straight rights as well.Langford would keep pressing,showing a great jaw,resiliance,and tenacity.

i think the judges would see it 9-4-2,8-4-3 and 8-5-2 for C.M.

there would be quite a bit of clinching,and maybe even some butting,elbowing and throwing each other around.

C.M would win by scores of 146-143,145-142,147-144.A clear cut UD win but a sloppy ugly fight for the most part. 8)

next up:

Felix Trinadad vs. Wilfredo Benitez 8)

15 rounds at WW.

since this one has apparently stumped everyone,i will once again do my thing and answer my own hypothetical...okay,..i would pick Trinadad to win by SD.i think it would be a combination of a great chess match and alot of good counter punching.

next up:

Archie Moore vs Virgil Hill

15 Rounds.

Hill outboxes Moore, keeps it at range and uses his superior handspeed and movement. Hill's chin good enough to take the whacks he has to take. btw, Benitez would totally SCHOOL Tito

next up:

Meldrick Taylor vs Pernell Whittaker @ 140lbs 12 rounds

Counter-puncher wrote:Hill outboxes Moore, keeps it at range and uses his superior handspeed and movement. Hill's chin good enough to take the whacks he has to take. btw, Benitez would totally SCHOOL Tito

next up:

Meldrick Taylor vs Pernell Whittaker @ 140lbs 12 rounds

I would have to pick Whittaker to win.Visibly clear cut from a relatively accurate standpoint but i think one judge might see it even or have Taylor up by a point or two so i'll say most likely a (SD Win for Whittaker),...or maybe a MD Win.
Taylor would win most of the earlier rounds but Whittaker would start taking command for the most part by the 8th.
Last round would likely be one of the best rounds as the fans would really see a true battle of wills taking place.
Taylor applying lots of pressure out of the awareness of urgency and Whittaker really going off with the dipsy do and the other defensive wizadry displays.


Next Up:

Jake LaMotta vs. Tony Zale

15 Rounds.

LaMotta by late tko or decision, a prime Zale would have given him a hell of a fight, but lets be honest here, LaMotta's legacy was built on numerous fights with many ATG fighters, while Zale is best remembered for his wars with Graziano....to make it a comparison, it is like Mayweather fighting Gatti, sure Gatti had a exciting three fight series with Ward, but he was easily outclassed by Mayweather...LaMotta's no Mayweather, but he was Robinson's toughest foe and he would have been too much for Zale...end of story!


Bob Satterfield vs Irish Bob Murphy, @ 175 pounds 10 rounds