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Re: British & Irish boxing 52 fight history knowledge challenge
Posted: 09 Jul 2016, 11:49
by Horse
davie wrote:Put it in context though, 50 years before we started fistic competition under the marquis of queensbury rules, we were burning witches for entertainment on a Saturday night.
Surely not!
Re: British & Irish boxing 52 fight history knowledge challenge
Posted: 09 Jul 2016, 11:59
by Counter-puncher
Horse wrote:davie wrote:Put it in context though, 50 years before we started fistic competition under the marquis of queensbury rules, we were burning witches for entertainment on a Saturday night.
Surely not!
I think he's exaggerating but only slightly, I believe the last witch to be burned in Scotland was the mid 1700s. Then political correctness took over, and now look where we are.
Re: British & Irish boxing 52 fight history knowledge challenge
Posted: 09 Jul 2016, 12:19
by Horse
Counter-puncher wrote:I think he's exaggerating but only slightly, I believe the last witch to be burned in Scotland was the mid 1700s. Then political correctness took over, and now look where we are.
You think witches are responsible for political correctness?
Interesting theory.
Re: British & Irish boxing 52 fight history knowledge challenge
Posted: 09 Jul 2016, 12:25
by Counter-puncher
No, I think the nambypamby restrictions placed on witch-burning were a sign of things to come
Re: British & Irish boxing 52 fight history knowledge challenge
Posted: 09 Jul 2016, 12:26
by Horse
Any suggestions for week 28?
Recent weeks' nominations:
Horse - Duke McKenzie vs Dave McAuley
Horse - Richie Woodhall vs Glenn Catley
Horse - Alan Rudkin vs Lionel Rose
Horse - Wayne McCullough vs Yasuei Yakushiji
milpool - Tony Sibson vs Frank Tate
milpool - Errol Christie vs Mark Kaylor
milpool - Kirkland Laing vs Roberto Duran
Re: British & Irish boxing 52 fight history knowledge challenge
Posted: 09 Jul 2016, 12:30
by Horse
Counter-puncher wrote:No, I think the nambypamby restrictions placed on witch-burning were a sign of things to come
Wasn't being a witch non-PC at the time and killing them was PC?
Re: British & Irish boxing 52 fight history knowledge challenge
Posted: 09 Jul 2016, 12:41
by Counter-puncher
Horse wrote:Counter-puncher wrote:No, I think the nambypamby restrictions placed on witch-burning were a sign of things to come
Wasn't being a witch non-PC at the time and killing them was PC?
Exactly, when they stopped burning witches it was the start of the pc lobby. Even before they stopped slavery they decided witches shouldn't be burned. And before you know it 250 years there are gays and trannies everywhere.
Re: British & Irish boxing 52 fight history knowledge challenge
Posted: 09 Jul 2016, 12:47
by Counter-puncher
Actually i think witches in themselves were very pc. They were like prototypical feminists providing a provocative restaging of feminine identity and agency. It was the burning of them that was non-pc and which provoked the reaction of 18th century Guardianistas. But the damage had obviously already been done as witches didn't flourish again even after they stopped burning them. Kinfof like the native red squirrel, once the American virus.of political correctness/grey squirrels seeped into the body politic, the native witches / red squirrels were fucked and would never return.
Re: British & Irish boxing 52 fight history knowledge challenge
Posted: 09 Jul 2016, 13:09
by Horse
Counter-puncher wrote:Actually i think witches in themselves were very pc. They were like prototypical feminists providing a provocative restaging of feminine identity and agency. It was the burning of them that was non-pc and which provoked the reaction of 18th century Guardianistas. But the damage had obviously already been done as witches didn't flourish again even after they stopped burning them. Kinfof like the native red squirrel, once the American virus.of political correctness/grey squirrels seeped into the body politic, the native witches / red squirrels were fucked and would never return.
Set the pine martens on them, I say.
Re: British & Irish boxing 52 fight history knowledge challenge
Posted: 09 Jul 2016, 14:35
by mickey1975
Counter-puncher wrote:Horse wrote:Counter-puncher wrote:No, I think the nambypamby restrictions placed on witch-burning were a sign of things to come
Wasn't being a witch non-PC at the time and killing them was PC?
Exactly, when they stopped burning witches it was the start of the pc lobby. Even before they stopped slavery they decided witches shouldn't be burned. And before you know it 250 years there are gays and trannies everywhere.

Re: British & Irish boxing 52 fight history knowledge challenge
Posted: 11 Jul 2016, 17:19
by Autobarn
Are you going to include any Cornelius Boza Edwards fights?
The Ugandan southpaw represented Britain and was in some incredible battles during a very fierce era that included Bobby chacon, Raffael bazooka Limon and Rolando Navarette for the world super featherweight title in the 1980s.
Re: British & Irish boxing 52 fight history knowledge challenge
Posted: 11 Jul 2016, 18:08
by davie
Autobarn wrote:Are you going to include any Cornelius Boza Edwards fights?
The Ugandan southpaw represented Britain and was in some incredible battles during a very fierce era that included Bobby chacon, Raffael bazooka Limon and Rolando Navarette for the world super featherweight title in the 1980s.
Good shout.
Worth having a look at his footage in youtube to see what is there, but he certainly face a number of top guys
Re: British & Irish boxing 52 fight history knowledge challenge
Posted: 12 Jul 2016, 02:57
by handsofstone
davie wrote:Autobarn wrote:Are you going to include any Cornelius Boza Edwards fights?
The Ugandan southpaw represented Britain and was in some incredible battles during a very fierce era that included Bobby chacon, Raffael bazooka Limon and Rolando Navarette for the world super featherweight title in the 1980s.
Good shout.
Worth having a look at his footage in youtube to see what is there, but he certainly face a number of top guys
I watched the Chacon fights recently and both were good fights from memory
Re: British & Irish boxing 52 fight history knowledge challenge
Posted: 20 Jul 2016, 10:06
by Horse
Autobarn wrote:Are you going to include any Cornelius Boza Edwards fights?
The Ugandan southpaw represented Britain and was in some incredible battles during a very fierce era that included Bobby chacon, Raffael bazooka Limon and Rolando Navarette for the world super featherweight title in the 1980s.
I don't count him as British.
Re: British & Irish boxing 52 fight history knowledge challenge
Posted: 20 Jul 2016, 14:07
by Horse
Any suggestions for week 30?
Recent weeks' nominations:
Horse - Wayne McCullough vs Yasuei Yakushiji
Horse - Richie Woodhall vs Thulani Malinga
Horse - Glenn Catley vs Markus Beyer
Horse - Joe Bugner vs Joe Frazier
milpool - Tony Sibson vs Frank Tate
milpool - Errol Christie vs Mark Kaylor
milpool - Kirkland Laing vs Roberto Duran
Recent weeks' fights:
Week 29 - Duke McKenzie vs Dave McAuley:
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=202398
Week 28 - Alan Rudkin vs Lionel Rose:
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=202256
Week 27 - Brian Curvis vs Emile Griffith:
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=202047
Week 26 - Maurice Hope vs Rocky Mattioli II:
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=201894
Re: British & Irish boxing 52 fight history knowledge challenge
Posted: 01 Aug 2016, 17:55
by Horse
Any suggestions for week 32?
Recent weeks' nominations:
Horse - Richie Woodhall vs Thulani Malinga
Horse - Glenn Catley vs Markus Beyer
Horse - Joe Bugner vs Joe Frazier
Horse - Paul Ingle vs Junior Jones
Horse - Michael Brodie vs In-Jin Chi I
milpool - Tony Sibson vs Frank Tate
milpool - Errol Christie vs Mark Kaylor
Re: British & Irish boxing 52 fight history knowledge challenge
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 01:33
by Andrew
Wanted to watch the first chi v Brodie could only find the second online.
Re: British & Irish boxing 52 fight history knowledge challenge
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 03:25
by olij999
Horse wrote:Autobarn wrote:Are you going to include any Cornelius Boza Edwards fights?
The Ugandan southpaw represented Britain and was in some incredible battles during a very fierce era that included Bobby chacon, Raffael bazooka Limon and Rolando Navarette for the world super featherweight title in the 1980s.
I don't count him as British.
Even though he fought for England ABA as an amateur in 1975-6 (and I'm sitting right next to a poster from his early pro career in 1977 billing him as "former England star")? What criteria are you using to determine if someone is British?
Re: British & Irish boxing 52 fight history knowledge challenge
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 06:58
by Horse
olij999 wrote:Even though he fought for England ABA as an amateur in 1975-6 (and I'm sitting right next to a poster from his early pro career in 1977 billing him as "former England star")? What criteria are you using to determine if someone is British?
Why didn't he ever fight for the British title? Was he eligible for that title?
Wasn't Boza-Edwards 17 when he moved to Britain in 1974? And then he turned pro two years later in 1976.
He started fighting abroad on a regular basis about 18 months into his career in 1978 and then became primarily American based after 1980, where he now lives.
He was born and raised in Uganda, came to Britain for a few years and then left for America. He just doesn't seem very British to me.
Boza-Edwards represented Uganda as a Featherweight at the 1976 Montreal Olympic Games.
Are you sure that he ever represented England as an amateur?
http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Human:608
Re: British & Irish boxing 52 fight history knowledge challenge
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 07:01
by Horse
Naandrew wrote:Wanted to watch the first chi v Brodie could only find the second online.
That's annoying.
What would the 2nd best Brodie fight be to show?
Michael Brodie vs Willie Jorrin?
Re: British & Irish boxing 52 fight history knowledge challenge
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 12:54
by Andrew
Horse wrote:Naandrew wrote:Wanted to watch the first chi v Brodie could only find the second online.
That's annoying.
What would the 2nd best Brodie fight be to show?
Michael Brodie vs Willie Jorrin?
Never watched the Jorrin fight I know it's on YouTube though.
Re: British & Irish boxing 52 fight history knowledge challenge
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 17:46
by davie
Horse wrote:Any suggestions for week 32?
Recent weeks' nominations:
Horse - Richie Woodhall vs Thulani Malinga
Horse - Glenn Catley vs Markus Beyer
Horse - Joe Bugner vs Joe Frazier
Horse - Paul Ingle vs Junior Jones
Horse - Michael Brodie vs In-Jin Chi I
milpool - Tony Sibson vs Frank Tate
milpool - Errol Christie vs Mark Kaylor
Any excuse to watch Smokin' Joe.
A former opponent of Kirkland Lang caught my attention.
Wouldn't mind seeing either (or both) of the Colin Jones vs Milton McCrory fights. Good close scraps with a splash of drama and controversial scoring
Re: British & Irish boxing 52 fight history knowledge challenge
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 17:50
by Counter-puncher
Jones-McCrory sounds great, haven't seen either
Re: British & Irish boxing 52 fight history knowledge challenge
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 17:59
by davie
Counter-puncher wrote:Jones-McCrory sounds great, haven't seen either
I don't believe that for one second.
I'm willing to bet we'll be 5 minutes into the video and there will be Counter-puncher sitting ringside.
Re: British & Irish boxing 52 fight history knowledge challenge
Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 12:10
by Horse
Any suggestions for week 35?
Recent weeks' nominations:
Horse - Glenn Catley vs Markus Beyer
Horse - Paul Ingle vs Junior Jones
Horse - Michael Brodie vs In-Jin Chi I
Horse - Chris Pyatt vs Sumbu Kalambay
Horse - Billy Hardy vs Orlando Canizales I
milpool - Tony Sibson vs Frank Tate
milpool - Errol Christie vs Mark Kaylor
Recent weeks' fights:
Week 33 - Joe Bugner vs Joe Frazier:
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=203046
Week 32 - Colin Jones vs Milton McCrory I:
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=202947
Week 31 - Kirkland Laing vs Roberto Duran:
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=202714
Week 30 - Wayne McCullough vs Yasuei Yakushiji:
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=202593