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Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 18:23
by smiling assassin
skanksta wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 18:13 Fair play - immediate rematch after a nasty KO is alwasy ballsy.

Ruiz let himself down.
Yeah full credit to AJ

Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 18:25
by Grilling Machine
skanksta wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 18:19Andy, you do NOT deserve a rematch.

You coulda won that and fought Wilder for $10m
Might've been in the back of his mind that he'd have to face Wilder if he won again, or an even bigger spoiler in Fury. AJ's probably his ceiling at world level.

Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 18:26
by MecnunK
Cant understand it.. heavy weight world championship on the line and the fat f*ck comes in even fatter? How is that possible...
Heard commentators say his team wanted him to start camp earlier but he turned up in September?

Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 18:31
by Grilling Machine
Would any of us back Ruiz against Wilder?

If Wilder and Fury weren't active, I think it's possible that Ruiz might've trained harder to retain and defend his belts, but he's a man who's never been the hungriest, figuratively, and he's made his money. He's not lacking balls — we know that, but he doesn't need Wilder in his life.

Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 18:33
by SAPFO
MecnunK wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 18:26 Cant understand it.. heavy weight world championship on the line and the fat f*ck comes in even fatter? How is that possible...
Heard commentators say his team wanted him to start camp earlier but he turned up in September?
He said that next time he’d ‘try and work more with his team, and not try and train alone again’

Wha the actual Fock? He really did pig out didn’t he?

Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 18:34
by skanksta
Depends on the price.
If he was slim and in shape and a big number - yes

Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 18:34
by Bard of Boxrec
MecnunK wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 18:26 Cant understand it.. heavy weight world championship on the line and the fat f*ck comes in even fatter? How is that possible...
Heard commentators say his team wanted him to start camp earlier but he turned up in September?
Don’t understand all the bafflement. He could have turned up in the best shape of his life, he just isn’t as good as AJ. Not difficult to comprehend. Why is everyone so puzzled? The first fight was a fluke.

Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 18:36
by samwbr
Nondescript wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 18:16
polecateddy wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 18:14 Bet Ruiz never wins another fight in world class. Journeyman!
I think Wilder would have a field day with the Ruiz of tonight. Would be a sitting duck.
It won't happen

Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 18:42
by Nondescript
samwbr wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 18:36
Nondescript wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 18:16

I think Wilder would have a field day with the Ruiz of tonight. Would be a sitting duck.
It won't happen
There's no need for it to happen now. Ruiz looked like shit.

Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 18:46
by Nightmare Roy
SAPFO wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 18:33
MecnunK wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 18:26 Cant understand it.. heavy weight world championship on the line and the fat f*ck comes in even fatter? How is that possible...
Heard commentators say his team wanted him to start camp earlier but he turned up in September?
He said that next time he’d ‘try and work more with his team, and not try and train alone again’

Wha the actual Fock? He really did pig out didn’t he?
Maybe he didn’t think he’d win the first fight and the rematch was a lottery win, he’s been binned off before by trainers and promoters due to his antics, maybe he’s just happy for the money, can’t see him fighting again now.

Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 18:52
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 18:53
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 18:54
by Ruthless-RKO


IBF will be called too. I’m sure they work something out.

Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 18:55
by MecnunK
Riddick Blowe wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 18:34
MecnunK wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 18:26 Cant understand it.. heavy weight world championship on the line and the fat f*ck comes in even fatter? How is that possible...
Heard commentators say his team wanted him to start camp earlier but he turned up in September?
Don’t understand all the bafflement. He could have turned up in the best shape of his life, he just isn’t as good as AJ. Not difficult to comprehend. Why is everyone so puzzled? The first fight was a fluke.
It is baffling. I would expect Ruiz to be in shape of his life in order to keep his titles and make it 2 in a row. If he was in better shape and lighter he would be able to close distance quicker, exert more pressure. He has a good chin, fast hands and throws good combos especially if you stand in front of him so I don't think his win was a fluke. AJ didn't have the right game plan in the first outing. He did this time round but Ruiz didn't do himself any favours.

Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 18:57
by oogiebe
MecnunK wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 18:55
Riddick Blowe wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 18:34

Don’t understand all the bafflement. He could have turned up in the best shape of his life, he just isn’t as good as AJ. Not difficult to comprehend. Why is everyone so puzzled? The first fight was a fluke.
It is baffling. I would expect Ruiz to be in shape of his life in order to keep his titles and make it 2 in a row. If he was in better shape and lighter he would be able to close distance quicker, exert more pressure. He has a good chin, fast hands and throws good combos especially if you stand in front of him so I don't think his win was a fluke. AJ didn't have the right game plan in the first outing. He did this time round but Ruiz didn't do himself any favours.
Exactly this.

Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 19:00
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 19:06
by Ruthless-RKO
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Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 19:11
by danconnollyeire
Riddick Blowe wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 18:34
MecnunK wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 18:26 Cant understand it.. heavy weight world championship on the line and the fat f*ck comes in even fatter? How is that possible...
Heard commentators say his team wanted him to start camp earlier but he turned up in September?
Don’t understand all the bafflement. He could have turned up in the best shape of his life, he just isn’t as good as AJ. Not difficult to comprehend. Why is everyone so puzzled? The first fight was a fluke.
Hitting a big guy to the body and having fast hands isn’t a fluke

Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 19:12
by Fray Bentos
I think Ruiz and his camp expected Johsua to grab, hold and hit - try and bully him and use illegal tactics such as using the forearm aided by his best pal Pabon - Team Ruiz was wrongfooted on the tactical side and Joshua cleaned up - a very intelligent performance from Joshua.

Should Ruiz have been 20 stone, to be fair, he has never been Mr Universe.

Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 19:14
by danconnollyeire
It’s a weird time for heavyweight boxing. AJ vs Fury prob won’t ever get made. Fury would outbox in a evidently very boring fight. The Wilder situation will be like it was before, another two years of blaming each other in the meantime for it not happening. AJ seen as a king again cos of all his belts yet we will never know who’s the best

Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 19:23
by Cyclops
handsofstone wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 18:20 119-110 for me, at risk of sounding like a casual I thought it was a bit of a masterclass from Joshua there, the fight played out how I thought it would if he got his tactics spot on and he did get them spot on, there was a couple of times he tried to punch his way out of the inside and he did look vulnerable I thought but he got away with it tonight, they were the only times Ruiz had any real success and he did look dangerous but it wasn't nowhere near enough, mostly Joshua kept him at bay with the jab which I thought was excellent, best ive seen it , he threw it every round and it was hurtful looking jab and it busted Ruiz up


Nothing wrong with Joshua's stamina either, boxed on his toes all night, kept calm , worked the lead left hook well, drilled Ruiz with some big right hands, Ruiz never looked badly hurt but did get stiffened in the 1st when Joshua bust his eye open, not a classic but it was absorbing, Ruiz looked like he'd threaten to let his hands go but mostly his feet were too slow to get in range, I'm glad to see Joshua win , its better for the division IMO, respect
You're not a casual. That was an excellent performance from Joshua, probably his best. He didn't go in and try to KO Ruiz, he boxed. He stayed behind the jab, moved, and looked every inch the improved fighter. I've been telling everybody that has half an interest that Ruiz would bang Him out again and that AJ isn't a natural boxer, just a big strong guy. But I was completely proved wrong. He knuckled down, worked on his boxing and worked on a gameplan and is clearly improving. He actually look like he can get better, too.

I consider myself humbled.

Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 19:26
by rd350lc
clopixolacuphase wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 19:23
handsofstone wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 18:20 119-110 for me, at risk of sounding like a casual I thought it was a bit of a masterclass from Joshua there, the fight played out how I thought it would if he got his tactics spot on and he did get them spot on, there was a couple of times he tried to punch his way out of the inside and he did look vulnerable I thought but he got away with it tonight, they were the only times Ruiz had any real success and he did look dangerous but it wasn't nowhere near enough, mostly Joshua kept him at bay with the jab which I thought was excellent, best ive seen it , he threw it every round and it was hurtful looking jab and it busted Ruiz up


Nothing wrong with Joshua's stamina either, boxed on his toes all night, kept calm , worked the lead left hook well, drilled Ruiz with some big right hands, Ruiz never looked badly hurt but did get stiffened in the 1st when Joshua bust his eye open, not a classic but it was absorbing, Ruiz looked like he'd threaten to let his hands go but mostly his feet were too slow to get in range, I'm glad to see Joshua win , its better for the division IMO, respect
You're not a casual. That was an excellent performance from Joshua, probably his best. He didn't go in and try to KO Ruiz, he boxed. He stayed behind the jab, moved, and looked every inch the improved fighter. I've been telling everybody that has half an interest that Ruiz would bang Him out again and that AJ isn't a natural boxer, just a big strong guy. But I was completely proved wrong. He knuckled down, worked on his boxing and worked on a gameplan and is clearly improving. He actually look like he can get better, too.

I consider myself humbled.
Just as long as you stay that way :lol:

Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 19:30
by Cyclops
rd350lc wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 19:26
clopixolacuphase wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 19:23
You're not a casual. That was an excellent performance from Joshua, probably his best. He didn't go in and try to KO Ruiz, he boxed. He stayed behind the jab, moved, and looked every inch the improved fighter. I've been telling everybody that has half an interest that Ruiz would bang Him out again and that AJ isn't a natural boxer, just a big strong guy. But I was completely proved wrong. He knuckled down, worked on his boxing and worked on a gameplan and is clearly improving. He actually look like he can get better, too.

I consider myself humbled.
Just as long as you stay that way :lol:
Stop me again while I'm walking and I'll cut your f*cking Jacobs off.

Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 19:35
by Bard of Boxrec
danconnollyeire wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 19:11
Riddick Blowe wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 18:34

Don’t understand all the bafflement. He could have turned up in the best shape of his life, he just isn’t as good as AJ. Not difficult to comprehend. Why is everyone so puzzled? The first fight was a fluke.
Hitting a big guy to the body and having fast hands isn’t a fluke
If that fight played out 10 times with that version of AJ in the ring how many is Ruiz winning?

It was a fluke.

Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 19:38
by Ruthless-RKO