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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 17 Jun 2008, 21:03
by kikibalt
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Chata, when she was a baby

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 17 Jun 2008, 21:15
by Rick Farris
kikibalt wrote:Image
Chata, when she was a baby
Frank, showed this pic to my wife and she loves it.

-Rick

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 17 Jun 2008, 21:26
by kikibalt
Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Image
Chata, when she was a baby
Frank, showed this pic to my wife and she loves it.

-Rick
Rick,

Thats a $2500 bitch, so I'm glad your wife like her.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 17 Jun 2008, 21:33
by kikibalt
Willie Pep
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"Wil O' Wisp"
By Diego

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 17 Jun 2008, 21:56
by Rick Farris
kikibalt wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Image
Chata, when she was a baby
Frank, showed this pic to my wife and she loves it.

-Rick
Rick,

Thats a $2500 bitch, so I'm glad your like her.
If I didn't like her Frank, I'd have never married her . . .

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 17 Jun 2008, 22:10
by kikibalt
Rick Farris wrote:If I didn't like her Frank, I'd have never married her . . .
I was saying your wife liking our dog.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 17 Jun 2008, 22:18
by kikibalt
Humphrey Bogart
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"Bogey"
By Diego

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 17 Jun 2008, 22:21
by kikibalt
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Bobby Chacon vs Ray Mancini

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 17 Jun 2008, 22:23
by kikibalt
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Ray Mancini vs Ernesto Espana

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 17 Jun 2008, 22:24
by kikibalt
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Ray Mancini vs Jose Luis Ramirez

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 17 Jun 2008, 22:28
by kikibalt
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Car

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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 18 Jun 2008, 02:39
by dagosd2000
kikibalt wrote:Image
Chata, when she was a baby
All right,I'll let you in on what Frank told me about Chata. You see Frank doesn't really like dogs,but Frank knows that girls like cute little doggies like Chata. Come on,all you have to do is parade around the beach or the park with a cute little dog and you've got the "Ultimate Babe Magnet". Girls think,not only is the doggie cute,but you're a real sensitive guy. Full of love and compassion for vulnerable little things like puppies,and girls.

I didn't mean to blow your cover Frank,but when you've reached the age you have,$2500 could translate into a lot of big scores. Besides,in the long run it'll be a lot cheaper than drivin'(the way the price of gas is)to Reno to drop $2500 everytime at The Mustang Ranch.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 18 Jun 2008, 02:55
by dagosd2000
[quote="kikibalt"]Image
Here I am with Chata,

Frank briefing Chata on how to behave and look cute and don't slobber or fart, just before they make their run to Malibu Beach.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 18 Jun 2008, 03:20
by bennie
kikibalt wrote:Image
Ray Mancini vs Jose Luis Ramirez
Mancini's greatest win. He must have thrown a million punches.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 18 Jun 2008, 03:28
by bennie
Bennie, I echo Rick on the state of Brian London, a really nice piece on him and he obviously still has a tremendous wit. I was doing a bit of researching on him and I came across something interesting. Remember when I asked you why didn't Henry Cooper just go ahead and defy the BBBC and fight Jimmy Ellis for the title when the opportunity presented itself and you said Cooper just wasn't that type of person. Well, apparently Brian London was because the BBBC also refused him the opportunity to fight Floyd Patterson for the title. He went ahead with it and got beat down pretty good, but this was for a shot at the crown and I don't blame him one bit for giving it a go. Funny, the stewards of the BBBC called a hearing to impose a fine and/or suspension on London for defying their edict but London declined to attend as he was going on Holiday and didn't want to interrupt them. I had to laugh, thumbing his nose to the bitter end. I wonder how they penalized him?

Scartissue




Well, as you will know, he was back in the ring seven months after Patterson, when he was stopped by Nino Valdes here, so he clearly got away with it. The 'names' on London's record are frightening.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 18 Jun 2008, 04:36
by bennie
dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Image
Here I am with Chata,

Frank briefing Chata on how to behave and look cute and don't slobber or fart, just before they make their run to Malibu Beach.
What a lovely shot.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 18 Jun 2008, 04:55
by bennie
Incidentally, am I the only one finding this 'three quote only' thing a pain.
You post a reply to an interesting topic and it comes up with a no, no.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 18 Jun 2008, 07:46
by kikibalt
bennie wrote:Incidentally, am I the only one finding this 'three quote only' thing a pain.
You post a reply to an interesting topic and it comes up with a no, no.
Yeah, I fine that to be a bitch too... :evil:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 18 Jun 2008, 08:10
by Flump
Regarding Brian London he is responsible for two of my favourite quotes from a fighter:

Prior to fighting Ingemar Johansson in Sweden, Johansson had given a radio interview claiming that his sister could beat Brian London, at the end of the fight with Johansson having been flattened (though the bell rang to save him from a KO) London leant over him and shouted 'You should have brought your f*ck*n sister!'

Long after his retirement London was apparently giving an after dinner speech and one of the guests stood up and asked London how he could talk about boxing positively when his most famous opponent (Ali) was in such bad physical condition. London shot back immediately with 'Well don't blame me pal, I never laid a glove on him'. Classic!

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 18 Jun 2008, 08:33
by kikibalt
Flump wrote:Regarding Brian London he is responsible for two of my favourite quotes from a fighter:

Prior to fighting Ingemar Johansson in Sweden, Johansson had given a radio interview claiming that his sister could beat Brian London, at the end of the fight with Johansson having been flattened (though the bell rang to save him from a KO) London leant over him and shouted 'You should have brought your f*ck*n sister!'

Long after his retirement London was apparently giving an after dinner speech and one of the guests stood up and asked London how he could talk about boxing positively when his most famous opponent (Ali) was in such bad physical condition. London shot back immediately with 'Well don't blame me pal, I never laid a glove on him'. Classic!

CLASSIC!!

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 18 Jun 2008, 11:06
by kikibalt
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The Kid

By Ted Sares:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imPJLHLt5EM
Many writers claim they watched Monday and Friday night fights “with their dads,” but if they did, they better be my age. I recently noted one renowned writer as claiming he grew up watching Friday Night Fights. That’s hogwash. He wasn’t even born.

Back in 1949, we had a pitifully tiny TV set on which my Dad and I (and some of my friends) would watch different programs, but the one that we enjoyed the most were the fights. They were televised from New York or Chicago and names like Madison Square Gardens, St Nicholas Arena or Marigold Gardens were commonplace. Some programs aired boxing matches on Monday. By far the most popular was "Gillette's Cavalcade of Sports," spotlighting the "Friday Night Fights" from Madison Square Garden.. The Cavalcade lasted until 1960, a 14-year period which was the longest continuous run of any boxing program in television history. The show's theme song was the “Look Sharp/Be Sharp March by Mahlon Merrick and we would always chime in with Sharpie the Parrot who would squawk, "Look sharp! Feel sharp! Be Sharp! With Gillette razor blades before the fights were telecast. The bell would sound and Jimmy Powers at ringside would announce, "Friday night fights are on the air!"

These fights meant names like Yama Bahama, Del Flanagan (130 fights), Gaspar Ortega (who fought 176 times and was only stopped twice), Chico Vejar (116 fights), Joey Giardello (134 bouts), Bobby Dykes (149 outings),Ralph “The Ripper” Zannelli (147 bouts), the exciting Johnny “Honey Boy” Bratton, the great inside fighter Eugene “Silent” Hairston, and Johnny Saxton. It also meant watching Tony DeMarco, Virgil Honey Bear” Akins (92), Ralph Dupas (135), Billy Graham (126), Carmen Basilio, the Fullmer’s and the Jordan’s, Spider Webb, Rory Calhoun, Bobo Olson (115), and many others too numerous to cite.

But there was one guy who seemed to be the exemplar for this great period. Oh, he had an alias; namely, “The Cuban Hawk,” but everyone knew him as Kid Gavilan. In 1951, Sugar Ray Robinson moved to middleweight and Johnny Bratton captured the welterweight title. He defended against The Kid in 1951 and was defeated The Kid, who was Cuba‘s loss and America‘s gain, went on to make seven successful title defenses until losing to Johnny Saxton in one of the worst decisions in boxing history.

The synopsis in The International Boxing Hall of Fame (in which The Kid was inducted in 1990) states, in part: “Gavilan is the man credited with inventing the bolo punch. He said the punch, which was half hook and half uppercut, was developed by years spent cutting sugar cane with a machete in his native Cuba.”

While not a fight ender, it produced ooohs and aaahs and impressed judges throughout the world.

He had a record of 107 wins, 30 losses and 6 draws, with one no contest and 27 wins by knockout in a career that spanned 143 professional fights. But the thing that stands out is that The Kid was one of the few high profile boxers in history who was never stopped. Yes, in 143 professional fights, he never lost by stoppage. He also possessed great stamina.

Two of his more notable wins came against college graduate Chuck Davey, 37-0-2 at the time and the darling of the white collar set. Gavilan proceeded to destroy Chuck decking him 4 times before the televised slaughter was stopped. He would later beat Davey’s point counterpoint Chico Vejar, who was a big blue collar favorite back in the 50’s.

If you throw a dart at the list of his opponents, you would come up with such names as ultra rugged Eduardo “Zerdo” Lausse, Garth The Toy Bulldog” Panter, Randy “The Leamington Licker” Turpin, Rocky Castellani, Tony Janiro, Frenchman Robert Villemain, and the great Beau Jack.

The Kid fought in 15 different states and D.C. and in 10 different countries. He was an attraction in just about every great venue in the world. These included Madison Square Garden, Convention Hall in Philadelphia, Olympic Auditorium in LA, The Chicago Stadium, The Boston Garden, The War Memorial Auditorium in Syracuse, and Miami Stadium, As well, he fought numerous times in Luna Park in Buenos Aires, Palais des Sports in Paris, Arena Coliseo in Mexico City, and of course the Palacio de los Deportes in Havana.

He was 26-2 when he fought for the first time in the U.S. in November 1946. He would go on to fight until 1958. During that time, he thrilled boxing fans throughout the world with his stylish skills and ability to go the distance.

These days, when I think of Cuban boxing, I think of Felix Savon and Teófilo Stevenson Teofilo and what could have been. I think of “Kid” Chocolate, “Feo” Rodriguez, ‘Sugar” Ramos and Jose “Mantequiila” Napoles. But most of all I think of Kid Gavilan’s bolo punch and the flash and daring which he launched it.

There will be only one “Kid.”

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 18 Jun 2008, 11:54
by dagosd2000
kikibalt wrote:
bennie wrote:Incidentally, am I the only one finding this 'three quote only' thing a pain.
You post a reply to an interesting topic and it comes up with a no, no.
Yeah, I fine that to be a bitch too... :evil:
Bow Wow to that also.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 18 Jun 2008, 12:10
by dagosd2000
kikibalt wrote:Image
The Kid

By Ted Sares:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imPJLHLt5EM
Many writers claim they watched Monday and Friday night fights “with their dads,” but if they did, they better be my age. I recently noted one renowned writer as claiming he grew up watching Friday Night Fights. That’s hogwash. He wasn’t even born.

Back in 1949, we had a pitifully tiny TV set on which my Dad and I (and some of my friends) would watch different programs, but the one that we enjoyed the most were the fights. They were televised from New York or Chicago and names like Madison Square Gardens, St Nicholas Arena or Marigold Gardens were commonplace. Some programs aired boxing matches on Monday. By far the most popular was "Gillette's Cavalcade of Sports," spotlighting the "Friday Night Fights" from Madison Square Garden.. The Cavalcade lasted until 1960, a 14-year period which was the longest continuous run of any boxing program in television history. The show's theme song was the “Look Sharp/Be Sharp March by Mahlon Merrick and we would always chime in with Sharpie the Parrot who would squawk, "Look sharp! Feel sharp! Be Sharp! With Gillette razor blades before the fights were telecast. The bell would sound and Jimmy Powers at ringside would announce, "Friday night fights are on the air!"

These fights meant names like Yama Bahama, Del Flanagan (130 fights), Gaspar Ortega (who fought 176 times and was only stopped twice), Chico Vejar (116 fights), Joey Giardello (134 bouts), Bobby Dykes (149 outings),Ralph “The Ripper” Zannelli (147 bouts), the exciting Johnny “Honey Boy” Bratton, the great inside fighter Eugene “Silent” Hairston, and Johnny Saxton. It also meant watching Tony DeMarco, Virgil Honey Bear” Akins (92), Ralph Dupas (135), Billy Graham (126), Carmen Basilio, the Fullmer’s and the Jordan’s, Spider Webb, Rory Calhoun, Bobo Olson (115), and many others too numerous to cite.

But there was one guy who seemed to be the exemplar for this great period. Oh, he had an alias; namely, “The Cuban Hawk,” but everyone knew him as Kid Gavilan. In 1951, Sugar Ray Robinson moved to middleweight and Johnny Bratton captured the welterweight title. He defended against The Kid in 1951 and was defeated The Kid, who was Cuba‘s loss and America‘s gain, went on to make seven successful title defenses until losing to Johnny Saxton in one of the worst decisions in boxing history.

The synopsis in The International Boxing Hall of Fame (in which The Kid was inducted in 1990) states, in part: “Gavilan is the man credited with inventing the bolo punch. He said the punch, which was half hook and half uppercut, was developed by years spent cutting sugar cane with a machete in his native Cuba.”

While not a fight ender, it produced ooohs and aaahs and impressed judges throughout the world.

He had a record of 107 wins, 30 losses and 6 draws, with one no contest and 27 wins by knockout in a career that spanned 143 professional fights. But the thing that stands out is that The Kid was one of the few high profile boxers in history who was never stopped. Yes, in 143 professional fights, he never lost by stoppage. He also possessed great stamina.

Two of his more notable wins came against college graduate Chuck Davey, 37-0-2 at the time and the darling of the white collar set. Gavilan proceeded to destroy Chuck decking him 4 times before the televised slaughter was stopped. He would later beat Davey’s point counterpoint Chico Vejar, who was a big blue collar favorite back in the 50’s.

If you throw a dart at the list of his opponents, you would come up with such names as ultra rugged Eduardo “Zerdo” Lausse, Garth The Toy Bulldog” Panter, Randy “The Leamington Licker” Turpin, Rocky Castellani, Tony Janiro, Frenchman Robert Villemain, and the great Beau Jack.

The Kid fought in 15 different states and D.C. and in 10 different countries. He was an attraction in just about every great venue in the world. These included Madison Square Garden, Convention Hall in Philadelphia, Olympic Auditorium in LA, The Chicago Stadium, The Boston Garden, The War Memorial Auditorium in Syracuse, and Miami Stadium, As well, he fought numerous times in Luna Park in Buenos Aires, Palais des Sports in Paris, Arena Coliseo in Mexico City, and of course the Palacio de los Deportes in Havana.

He was 26-2 when he fought for the first time in the U.S. in November 1946. He would go on to fight until 1958. During that time, he thrilled boxing fans throughout the world with his stylish skills and ability to go the distance.

These days, when I think of Cuban boxing, I think of Felix Savon and Teófilo Stevenson Teofilo and what could have been. I think of “Kid” Chocolate, “Feo” Rodriguez, ‘Sugar” Ramos and Jose “Mantequiila” Napoles. But most of all I think of Kid Gavilan’s bolo punch and the flash and daring which he launched it.

There will be only one “Kid.”
Nice article Frank. I always feel moved when the name Gene Hairston is mentioned. Father wanted him to be an artist. Flashing ringlights were made part of the sport to let Hairston know how much time was left in the round. Fought in a great era.

A question for anyone out there. Perhaps the Latin American contributers can help me out. I read an article with Jose Napoles. They asked him who his idol was growing up . Answer:Ciro Morasen from his hometown,Santiago de Cuba. Noticed Morasen hung it up before he had a chance to come here and continue.(I'm guessing) Looked at his record. Pretty impressive. A win over Lauro Salas. Does anyone have any more info on this interesting lightweight?

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 18 Jun 2008, 13:10
by kikibalt
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Eugene "Silent" Hairston

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 18 Jun 2008, 13:14
by kikibalt
dagosd2000 wrote:All right,I'll let you in on what Frank told me about Chata. You see Frank doesn't really like dogs,but Frank knows that girls like cute little doggies like Chata. Come on,all you have to do is parade around the beach or the park with a cute little dog and you've got the "Ultimate Babe Magnet". Girls think,not only is the doggie cute,but you're a real sensitive guy. Full of love and compassion for vulnerable little things like puppies,and girls.

I didn't mean to blow your cover Frank,but when you've reached the age you have,$2500 could translate into a lot of big scores. Besides,in the long run it'll be a lot cheaper than drivin'(the way the price of gas is)to Reno to drop $2500 everytime at The Mustang Ranch.
diego,

I went to the Mustang Ranch once, but it was a business visited.... :roll: