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Khabib actually seems more likable than most to me. He's no-nonsense and humorless, but I'd always prefer that to a cringeworthy circus act like McGregor.

jujigatame wrote: ↑07 Sep 2019, 21:56 Khabib actually seems more likable than most to me. He's no-nonsense and humorless, but I'd always prefer that to a cringeworthy circus act like McGregor.

Yeah, I’m not sure why people don’t like Khabib. Is it maybe his style? Probably want to move away from MMA if that’s the case.

ironbeard wrote: ↑07 Sep 2019, 16:50 Fight of the night was Barboza / Felder.

Nice post fight speech by Khabib, addressing his issue a year ago and mma in general.

I was there last night and agree with you 100% on both counts. Atmosphere was great, though inevitably felt more like we were in Russia given the level of support of Khabib in particular.
The one thing TV can't ever convey fully is just how hot it was in the arena and the impact that must have had on some of the fighters. It made Felder's workrate even more impressive given that context.

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑08 Sep 2019, 02:52

jujigatame wrote: ↑07 Sep 2019, 21:56 Khabib actually seems more likable than most to me. He's no-nonsense and humorless, but I'd always prefer that to a cringeworthy circus act like McGregor.

Yeah, I’m not sure why people don’t like Khabib. Is it maybe his style? Probably want to move away from MMA if that’s the case.

He's the anti-McGregor that's why, McGregor represents the loutish pisshead lad culture that's so popular at the moment.

oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Sep 2019, 19:47

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑07 Sep 2019, 19:41

No question, fornicate khabib though. Lol, most unlikeable fighter I've ever come across.

Worse than Adrian Broner?

The thing that annoyed me about broner is that he can't fight and people thought he could. Khabib definitely doesn't have that problem. He's a bad ass, just fake as fuxk.

Deserter wrote: ↑08 Sep 2019, 07:56

ironbeard wrote: ↑07 Sep 2019, 16:50 Fight of the night was Barboza / Felder.

Nice post fight speech by Khabib, addressing his issue a year ago and mma in general.

I was there last night and agree with you 100% on both counts. Atmosphere was great, though inevitably felt more like we were in Russia given the level of support of Khabib in particular.
The one thing TV can't ever convey fully is just how hot it was in the arena and the impact that must have had on some of the fighters. It made Felder's workrate even more impressive given that context.

I was wondering about that due to a number of fighters mentioning it, as well as the announcers.

It makes me wonder if the heat will be a factor in TFKoB v AJ II. If so, I believe that it will give TFKoB the advantage, since he comes from the Saudi Arabia of America (weather-wise), The Imperial Valley.

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑08 Sep 2019, 02:52

jujigatame wrote: ↑07 Sep 2019, 21:56 Khabib actually seems more likable than most to me. He's no-nonsense and humorless, but I'd always prefer that to a cringeworthy circus act like McGregor.

Yeah, I’m not sure why people don’t like Khabib. Is it maybe his style? Probably want to move away from MMA if that’s the case.

I think that it is his style, and the fact that he is a (allegedly) devout Muslim.

I like Khabib as a person (at least what I know of him). I do not think that he is fake. I believe that his post fight speech was sincere. His success comes from absolute discipline and mastery of skill.

I loved the way he went after the loudmouthed pisshead after making McGregor quit. I was impressed with his apology for his actions.

I do not prefer his style but I will watch his fights because he is the GOAT at what he does.

I don't mind his style and I turned back to college football before his speech. Perhaps he is genuine, I don't like the whole deeply religious, humble family man + arrogant violent street gangster combo. I'm not buying it. I don't think he's currently the best in his division much less the goat. Let's see him beat scarface and we can start talking about that. Definitely among a handful of the most dominant ever, he's just now starting to stack big names as far as historical ranking is concerned.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑08 Sep 2019, 10:05 I don't mind his style and I turned back to college football before his speech. Perhaps he is genuine, I don't like the whole deeply religious, humble family man + arrogant violent street gangster combo. I'm not buying it. I don't think he's currently the best in his division much less the goat. Let's see him beat scarface and we can start talking about that. Definitely among a handful of the most dominant ever, he's just now starting to stack big names as far as historical ranking is concerned.

I will be rooting for Ferguson.

He is not the GOAT UFC / MMA fighter, nor the GOAT wrestler. He is the GOAT at taking people down, totally controlling them, and wearing them out. He is the GOAT at what he does, imo.

That said, Poirier absolutely rocked him early round 2, and if the American would have had any strength left, he would have choked him out in rd 3.

I think that Ferguson can get the job done.

Gsp was pretty sick at take downs, definitely not as violent with his gnp so that's a fair comment. Hopefully the stars finally align for this one. Super bowl weekend sounds perfect.

At what weight does GSP/Khabib happen though? I know GSP has expressed interest in trying to pick up a third title.. but it seems like a huge mistake to get down to 155 at this point.

JCS wrote: ↑08 Sep 2019, 13:15 At what weight does GSP/Khabib happen though? I know GSP has expressed interest in trying to pick up a third title.. but it seems like a huge mistake to get down to 155 at this point.

The Ferguson fight is pretty much a done deal for Khabib’s next defense. He stated as much in his post fight interview on ESPN+, and he is good with it.

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Sep 2019, 13:24

JCS wrote: ↑08 Sep 2019, 13:15 At what weight does GSP/Khabib happen though? I know GSP has expressed interest in trying to pick up a third title.. but it seems like a huge mistake to get down to 155 at this point.

The Ferguson fight is pretty much a done deal for Khabib’s next defense. He stated as much in his post fight interview on ESPN+, and he is good with it.

It's the right fight to make.. which is no guarantee that it is the next one made..

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Sep 2019, 09:29

Deserter wrote: ↑08 Sep 2019, 07:56

I was there last night and agree with you 100% on both counts. Atmosphere was great, though inevitably felt more like we were in Russia given the level of support of Khabib in particular.
The one thing TV can't ever convey fully is just how hot it was in the arena and the impact that must have had on some of the fighters. It made Felder's workrate even more impressive given that context.

I was wondering about that due to a number of fighters mentioning it, as well as the announcers.

It makes me wonder if the heat will be a factor in TFKoB v AJ II. If so, I believe that it will give TFKoB the advantage, since he comes from the Saudi Arabia of America (weather-wise), The Imperial Valley.

It's a fair question, but the timing of the fight means it's unlikely to be a factor - that area of Saudi in early December will be fine in terms of heat and humidity - average highs of 22C and lows of 10C. For example, here in the UAE in about 5-6 weeks the temperature will literally drop by around 10 degrees as we head into winter and the humidity disappears as well.

Deserter wrote: ↑08 Sep 2019, 14:10

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Sep 2019, 09:29
I was wondering about that due to a number of fighters mentioning it, as well as the announcers.

It makes me wonder if the heat will be a factor in TFKoB v AJ II. If so, I believe that it will give TFKoB the advantage, since he comes from the Saudi Arabia of America (weather-wise), The Imperial Valley.

It's a fair question, but the timing of the fight means it's unlikely to be a factor - that area of Saudi in early December will be fine in terms of heat and humidity - average highs of 22C and lows of 10C. For example, here in the UAE in about 5-6 weeks the temperature will literally drop by around 10 degrees as we head into winter and the humidity disappears as well.

Makes sense.

What do you figure the temp was last night?

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Sep 2019, 14:16

Deserter wrote: ↑08 Sep 2019, 14:10
It's a fair question, but the timing of the fight means it's unlikely to be a factor - that area of Saudi in early December will be fine in terms of heat and humidity - average highs of 22C and lows of 10C. For example, here in the UAE in about 5-6 weeks the temperature will literally drop by around 10 degrees as we head into winter and the humidity disappears as well.

Makes sense.

What do you figure the temp was last night?

I'd say it was around 30-35C, but the killer was the humidity, as it was brutal - worst I've known this year and was honestly akin to an open air sauna. The arena is a temporary structure, so while it had A/C units, we were still sweating just sitting in our seats. Add in the fact that those lights over the Octagon will have added a few more degrees and... actually, just found this which sums things up far better than me!
https://www.balls.ie/mma/concerns-raise ... 242-416921

Deserter wrote: ↑08 Sep 2019, 14:24

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Sep 2019, 14:16
Makes sense.

What do you figure the temp was last night?

I'd say it was around 30-35C, but the killer was the humidity, as it was brutal - worst I've known this year and was honestly akin to an open air sauna. The arena is a temporary structure, so while it had A/C units, we were still sweating just sitting in our seats. Add in the fact that those lights over the Octagon will have added a few more degrees and... actually, just found this which sums things up far better than me!
https://www.balls.ie/mma/concerns-raise ... 242-416921

Pretty damned oblivious of fighter health by the UFC, combined with flat out stupidity; callous, ignorant disregard for the performers.

Inexcusable.

JCS wrote: ↑08 Sep 2019, 13:15 At what weight does GSP/Khabib happen though? I know GSP has expressed interest in trying to pick up a third title.. but it seems like a huge mistake to get down to 155 at this point.

I think gsp is done.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑08 Sep 2019, 16:05

JCS wrote: ↑08 Sep 2019, 13:15 At what weight does GSP/Khabib happen though? I know GSP has expressed interest in trying to pick up a third title.. but it seems like a huge mistake to get down to 155 at this point.

I think gsp is done.

If not, he will be when Khabib gets done with him.

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Sep 2019, 16:09

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑08 Sep 2019, 16:05

I think gsp is done.

If not, he will be when Khabib gets done with him.

Yeah, fighting at a career low weight at his age wouldn't be a good idea against anyone, much less a top 5 in the world guy.

I'm interested in seeing what the BMF belt will look like.

On a side note, Colby sent out a tweet calling Jorge a trashbag.

Impractical Poster wrote: ↑08 Sep 2019, 16:39 I'm interested in seeing what the BMF belt will look like.

On a side note, Colby sent out a tweet calling Jorge a trashbag.

Looks like Colby is getting fucked again. Very strange how Dana hates him. Maybe he banged some porn star Dana was crushing on.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑08 Sep 2019, 18:06

Impractical Poster wrote: ↑08 Sep 2019, 16:39 I'm interested in seeing what the BMF belt will look like.

On a side note, Colby sent out a tweet calling Jorge a trashbag.

Looks like Colby is getting fucked again. Very strange how Dana hates him. Maybe he banged some porn star Dana was crushing on.

I wish we could find out what the details were for the fight not being made. I read the numbers weren't good for Colby/Lawler. I'm sure Colby is asking a lot more than Dana thinks he's worth. Colby has invested a lot into his persona. It would be a shame if it doesn't pay off.

Impractical Poster wrote: ↑08 Sep 2019, 18:21

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑08 Sep 2019, 18:06

Looks like Colby is getting fucked again. Very strange how Dana hates him. Maybe he banged some porn star Dana was crushing on.

I wish we could find out what the details were for the fight not being made. I read the numbers weren't good for Colby/Lawler. I'm sure Colby is asking a lot more than Dana thinks he's worth. Colby has invested a lot into his persona. It would be a shame if it doesn't pay off.

Then Dana offers masvidal a title shot and usman asks for too much, then Edwards, finally Nate.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑08 Sep 2019, 09:03
The thing that annoyed me about broner is that he can't fight and people thought he could. Khabib definitely doesn't have that problem. He's a bad ass, just fake as fuxk.

Dunno. Consider someone like Bones Jones as being the epitome of fake. Khabib is more in the realm of uneducated ruffian, or at least to my very limited exposure.