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gilgamesh wrote:

expe wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:
You guys severely overrate Fury. He ain't sh*t and his reign ain't gonna last.

He went to Germany and outboxed Klitschko in his own backyard, if he "ain't poo", then either there isn't a heavyweight on the planet that's close to decent and hasn't been for 10 years, or you know eff all about boxing.

Wlad didn't fight. Fury's win there means very little to me.

If he wins the rematch against a Wladimir that actually throws punches I'll be more impressed with him. But basically he was just the guy in the ring the night that Wlad decided to hand his title to somebody.

spot-on ! he danced and fiddled his way to a win against somebody who didn't want to be there .

Joshua don't need anyone, that's the thing. He calls the tune now. Haye? What's it to Joshua? A million or two more than if he were to fight Takam. Joshua will earn millions for routine defences.

lillywhite14 wrote:Joshua don't need anyone, that's the thing. He calls the tune now. Haye? What's it to Joshua? A million or two more than if he were to fight Takam. Joshua will earn millions for routine defences.

Takam would probably be more dangerous than Haye

lillywhite14 wrote:Joshua don't need anyone, that's the thing. He calls the tune now. Haye? What's it to Joshua? A million or two more than if he were to fight Takam. Joshua will earn millions for routine defences.

The love he was getting in the arena tonight was pretty crazy. No denying he's a cross-over star now.

First defence against whom?

Shannon Briggs? Would explain the move to the UK, build up a profile here to sell the fight.

keithmoonhangover wrote:Horse. Come on, be reasonable. Joshua punches hard, he has a chance against Fury, can you not see that he has a chance?

He has a chance, but that's about it.

He'd be a big underdog. He's not ready.

gilgamesh wrote:

Horse wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote:Martin is definitely a no mark, no arguments there.

But I think Joshua is Fury's worst nightmare.

Joshua is a big stiff idiot and Fury would play with him.

Steve Cunningham had enough pop to put Fury on his back. Joshua will keep him there.

So did Klitschko. Did you notice the difference in Fury's tactics between those fights?

I think Fury is Joshua's worst nightmare. Taller, faster, longer arms and more mobile. Not saying AJ couldn't win but Fury seems like the hardest style.

I will forgive AJ a gimme next (not Haye until he beats a live body) followed by the winner of Pulev v Chisora or winner of Takam v Parker whichever comes up first.

Boxerbeetle wrote:Oddly enough, I have a degree in English Literature so that is usually one of my strengths. But I can't fathom what you mean in this instance, other than naming Chisora and Cunningham as fighters on Fury's resume who would beat Joshua, which I do not feel is correct.

Could you clarify?

Re-read the post.

Stop being daft.

Haye's wetting his pants over the prospect of facing AJ. He must need the money.

Shirow wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

Horse wrote:Joshua is a big stiff idiot and Fury would play with him.

Steve Cunningham had enough pop to put Fury on his back. Joshua will keep him there.

So did Klitschko. Did you notice the difference in Fury's tactics between those fights?

I think Fury is Joshua's worst nightmare. Taller, faster, longer arms and more mobile. Not saying AJ couldn't win but Fury seems like the hardest style.

I will forgive AJ a gimme next (not Haye until he beats a live body) followed by the winner of Pulev v Chisora or winner of Takam v Parker whichever comes up first.

I saw the difference in his opponents tactics for sure. Cunningham actually fought Fury.

gilgamesh wrote:

expe wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:
Wlad didn't fight. Fury's win there means very little to me.

If he wins the rematch against a Wladimir that actually throws punches I'll be more impressed with him. But basically he was just the guy in the ring the night that Wlad decided to hand his title to somebody.

Definitely the latter of the two options in my post then.

If you can't see or understand why Wlad was so inactive in that fight then I don't know really know what to say.

Don't act like you saw something I didn't. I know Boxing. I'm a die hard fan and have watched it for a long time. Nothing Fury did in that ring should've kept Wlad from fighting. There were times when Fury was wide open, hands down, begging to be hit, and Wlad just stood there staring at him.

He didn't even try.

You clearly don't.

Plenty of fighters have stood in front of their opponents with their hands down, doesn't mean that they're begging to be hit and that anything thrown at them will actually land, someone that knows boxing should understand that.

Neil Gee wrote:Haye's wetting his pants over the prospect of facing AJ. He must need the money.

Got to pay for a divorce

ewenhay wrote:First defence against whom?

Shannon Briggs? Would explain the move to the UK, build up a profile here to sell the fight.

Teper is the highest rated IBF contender and beat Price in his last outing. Unless he's still serving suspension for his drug fails he'd be a possibility.

lefty wrote:No he weighs more than them and is taller aswell.

They're not the same size then.

What fighter the same height or taller than Fury has had more power?

lillywhite14 wrote:

Neil Gee wrote:Haye's wetting his pants over the prospect of facing AJ. He must need the money.

Got to pay for a divorce

expe wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

expe wrote: Definitely the latter of the two options in my post then.

If you can't see or understand why Wlad was so inactive in that fight then I don't know really know what to say.

Don't act like you saw something I didn't. I know Boxing. I'm a die hard fan and have watched it for a long time. Nothing Fury did in that ring should've kept Wlad from fighting. There were times when Fury was wide open, hands down, begging to be hit, and Wlad just stood there staring at him.

He didn't even try.

You clearly don't.

Plenty of fighters have stood in front of their opponents with their hands down, doesn't mean that they're begging to be hit and that anything thrown at them will actually land, someone that knows boxing should understand that.

Fury ain't Pernell Whitaker. Wlad definitely could've hit him if he'd bothered to throw a punch.

lefty wrote:

lillywhite14 wrote:Joshua don't need anyone, that's the thing. He calls the tune now. Haye? What's it to Joshua? A million or two more than if he were to fight Takam. Joshua will earn millions for routine defences.

The love he was getting in the arena tonight was pretty crazy. No denying he's a cross-over star now.

16 fights and that popular already? Mental. He will earn an absolute fortune

Neil Gee wrote:Haye's wetting his pants over the prospect of facing AJ. He must need the money.

Haye has invested wisely mate. He ain't skint.

AJ is an offensive juggernaut. Admiittedly he hasn't defeated a top opponent, but I can't see many people coping with his attack and he'll probably just get better, though I already think he'd overwhelm solid fighters like Pulev.

It may be a case of having to take him out beforr he can land something meaningful.

It was too easy to take seriously.

I just really really really hope Fury gets past Wlad in the summer and fights Joshua afterwards. The arguments on here in the build-up alone could genuinely break the internet

lillywhite14 wrote:

lefty wrote:

lillywhite14 wrote:Joshua don't need anyone, that's the thing. He calls the tune now. Haye? What's it to Joshua? A million or two more than if he were to fight Takam. Joshua will earn millions for routine defences.

The love he was getting in the arena tonight was pretty crazy. No denying he's a cross-over star now.

16 fights and that popular already? Mental. He will earn an absolute fortune

He's got a real shot at becoming the richest British boxer of them all.

punchoutsb wrote:Teper is the highest rated IBF contender and beat Price in his last outing. Unless he's still serving suspension for his drug fails he'd be a possibility.

I don't think that they'd want Joshua in against a drug cheat.

Duhaupas would be a good next opponent.

Neil Gee wrote:It was too easy to take seriously.

That's how I used to describe my one night stands.

Horse wrote:

lefty wrote:No he weighs more than them and is taller aswell.

They're not the same size then.

What fighter the same height or taller than Fury has had more power?

Stop being a pedantic knobhead, Horse. The fact that guys who are lighter than him and shorter than him, hit harder than he does is exactly the point. Wtf has Fury's height alone got to do with his punching power?