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JimStone wrote: ↑11 Nov 2018, 08:22

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑11 Nov 2018, 08:19

jamamb wrote: ↑11 Nov 2018, 08:00 man that was a sweet ko, right on the button and dropped bellew like a rag doll, was not expecting usyk to flatten bellew like that

with how hard bellew went down, he did well to even just stagger to a knee

Anyone else fall like that and ref usually stops it right away. Terry tried giving Bellew a chance.

He did but then appeared to look out of the ring at someone and immediately stopped counting and waved it off, almost as if they'd granted him permission to do the right thing. No idea who like..?

Overall it was one of his better nights last night. Didn't see much of him.

Well it was Eddie who was directly behind him who held his head. At the same time, Dave Coldwel kinda got up as well. I don’t think anyone knew he’d beat the count and even if he did, he would have been stopped a second later.

I blame his haircut. He looked like his LHW days.

Went last night and loved it because I saw one of my favourite fighters in the flesh and he wiped out a bullyboy I don't like.

Made my opinions of Bellew well known on this forum for years so I can't be arsed repeating them.

As much as I didn't like crowd last night at least I didn't have to watch the sky commentary. He sky coverage is getting worse and worse. Froch giving 10-10 rounds as usual, come on most of the regular posters on this forum know more about boxing than Froch does. He's not even a fan.


Also aware of Adam Smith comments about the Manchester bombing, disgraceful.

Usyk is a legend, easily my favourite fighter in the sport right now. I've been a fan since watching him at London 2012.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑11 Nov 2018, 11:18

Fantastic shot

Dillian Whyte’s brother speaking truth on the scorecards.

Said it was good he KO’d Bellew or he would have been robbed.



I do think eventually it was going to be one-sided for the remainder. So one-aides that judges would have had to give it to Usyk.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑11 Nov 2018, 17:37 I do think eventually it was going to be one-sided for the remainder. So one-aides that judges would have had to give it to Usyk.

Yes, it's weird that people are saying Usyk was going to be robbed. One scorecard was bad but on the other two, had Bellew beaten the count in the 8th round, Usyk would have been ahead by the end of the round with a 10-8.

Two of the scorecards were reasonable and would have been the decisive ones. Having Bellew one round up after 7 wasn't ridiculous.

bruthead wrote: ↑11 Nov 2018, 17:49

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑11 Nov 2018, 17:37 I do think eventually it was going to be one-sided for the remainder. So one-aides that judges would have had to give it to Usyk.

Yes, it's weird that people are saying Usyk was going to be robbed. One scorecard was bad but on the other two, had Bellew beaten the count in the 8th round, Usyk would have been ahead by the end of the round with a 10-8.

Two of the scorecards were reasonable and would have been the decisive ones. Having Bellew one round up after 7 wasn't ridiculous.

The scorecards were disgusting. Usyk clearly won all 7 completed rounds.

he was defo hurt before that , did a little wobble just like a second before and had terrible body language for much of the round. he was wearing his doom on his face basically.

such a sweet ko still though, having it on a 1 second loop in real time is brutal....he just collapsed so violently

He was hurt before he circled the corner, and took more damage while he was there. When he came away from the ropes he was out on his feet.

Clop's right about Usyk's tactics, and Bellew betrayed a lack of confidence in his ability to hold firm over 12 when he beat his chest. If Usyk had stamina issues it might just have tempted him into a tear-up, but of course we know the opposite to be true.

Visually, Bellew seemed a harder fight for Usyk than Gassiev, but I think that's because the latter was on the frontfoot and ideally suited to Uysk's counterpunching. He doesn't seem to be as good going forward, but then he only had to be patient this time, so who knows.

I think he'd lose against the undefeated version of Joshua, and it's not because he's smaller, nor because he doesn't punch as hard, it's because of those two aspects in tandem. AJ has top power with a good chin, so I think you need a Haye-level punch to beat him if you're smaller. Else be almost as big so that he can't tire you in clinches.

usyk defo is better when the opponent comes to him rather then when hes leading....bellews tactics were actually spot on imo to immediately take the back foot. usyk when he leads isnt quite as sharp and is a bit easier to hit.

i think big hws, with the size difference, will probably take the front foot and look to agress with usyk, but tbh they may be better off starting backwards and getting a long jab out there, while looking for counter backhands when usyk starts to throw

Yeah, Bellew could've run him close if he'd had about a third more stamina.

I think Usyk should do what Haye did on his road to Wlad: let the top lads deal with each other for a bit. Would Joshua, Wilder and Fury ever be the same again after losing?

skanksta wrote: ↑10 Nov 2018, 16:42

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Nov 2018, 16:20

smiling assassin wrote: ↑10 Nov 2018, 16:16
100% mate no excuses

True. Many boxers aren’t athletes or consider themselves as one. HW’s don’t even need to make weight. Shame.

On a proper diet and training regimen, Allen would have a shot at a Euro title @ CruiserW

im not really sure about that, i just dont really see what allen brings beyond a chin, fighters of euro standard or higher should deal with him pretty handily ,. even lenroy thomas outboxed him. its not like he brings some serious power or pace to make his chin count much either.

the last few guys to hold the euro were alekseev, drozd, chakiev, bellew, kutcher, and ngabu....all of whom are simply above allen

jamamb wrote: ↑12 Nov 2018, 06:39

skanksta wrote: ↑10 Nov 2018, 16:42

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Nov 2018, 16:20

True. Many boxers aren’t athletes or consider themselves as one. HW’s don’t even need to make weight. Shame.

On a proper diet and training regimen, Allen would have a shot at a Euro title @ CruiserW

im not really sure about that, i just dont really see what allen brings beyond a chin, fighters of euro standard or higher should deal with him pretty handily ,. even lenroy thomas outboxed him. its not like he brings some serious power or pace to make his chin count much either.

the last few guys to hold the euro were alekseev, drozd, chakiev, bellew, kutcher, and ngabu....all of whom are simply above allen

Yes.
Murderers row that lot - even for an in-shape Allen.
I stand corrected.

ShadrachSimmo wrote: ↑11 Nov 2018, 08:25

Pukka Cheese wrote: ↑11 Nov 2018, 07:51 For those that havnt seen the KO yet...



Great fight.

Wtf was Eddie all about. He was gonna try help him get back up?

i think the second left hook bellew took when he was in the corner, maybe 5 secs before the ko, was the punch that did the damage. look again, he was staggering after that and wide open.

soeone who knows how to make gifs needs to make a real speed gif that starts right as usyk throws the ko punch and ends when bellew hits the canvas, and just have that on loop....so brutal

jamamb wrote: ↑12 Nov 2018, 07:43

Cheers mate. Kinda hurts the eyes after a bit but flipping worth it.

ShadrachSimmo wrote: ↑11 Nov 2018, 08:25

Pukka Cheese wrote: ↑11 Nov 2018, 07:51 For those that havnt seen the KO yet...



Great fight.

Wtf was Eddie all about. He was gonna try help him get back up?

I can't stop laughing at Froch.

About a minute before the KO i was shouting at the tv it was time for the towel to come in. Froch on the other hand is still mid-sentence about how "Bellew is still valiant" as he's getting the beating of his life in the corner. Then with true comedy timing he finishes with "...good shot" as the knock out lands

Probably good job Froch is a commentator and not a cornerman.

RKY wrote: ↑12 Nov 2018, 11:52

ShadrachSimmo wrote: ↑11 Nov 2018, 08:25

Pukka Cheese wrote: ↑11 Nov 2018, 07:51 For those that havnt seen the KO yet...



Great fight.

Wtf was Eddie all about. He was gonna try help him get back up?

I can't stop laughing at Froch.

About a minute before the KO i was shouting at the tv it was time for the towel to come in. Froch on the other hand is still mid-sentence about how "Bellew is still valiant" as he's getting the beating of his life in the corner. Then with true comedy timing he finishes with "...good shot" as the knock out lands

Probably good job Froch is a commentator and not a cornerman.

The whole sky team are a bunch of jokers and yes men. Alex Arthur was one of the only people who showed unbiased opinions and notice how little he’s used anymore.

That fckin creep Smith has to go esp after his comments about terrorism.

RKY wrote: ↑12 Nov 2018, 11:52

ShadrachSimmo wrote: ↑11 Nov 2018, 08:25

Pukka Cheese wrote: ↑11 Nov 2018, 07:51 For those that havnt seen the KO yet...



Great fight.

Wtf was Eddie all about. He was gonna try help him get back up?

I can't stop laughing at Froch.

About a minute before the KO i was shouting at the tv it was time for the towel to come in. Froch on the other hand is still mid-sentence about how "Bellew is still valiant" as he's getting the beating of his life in the corner. Then with true comedy timing he finishes with "...good shot" as the knock out lands

Probably good job Froch is a commentator and not a cornerman.

Great fighter,shite commentator,total arsehole of a man.

Still concussed

An avergae 44,009 viewers tuned in to the 1 hour broadcast which aired on Sky Sports Action from 6pm to 7pm. This would have been the opening bouts.