Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 19:38
clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 19:30Stop me again while I'm walking and I'll cut your f*cking Jacobs off.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 19:41
AJ is only that version of AJ because of the loss though. You’re talking hypotheticals. Ruiz prepared to fight a guy who was muscle bound and went to bang guys out in the first fight and fought him as he should. Having a good left hook, rolling under a punch and landing it isn’t a fluke, it’s literally the sort of thing he’d train for his entire lifeRiddick Blowe wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 19:35If that fight played out 10 times with that version of AJ in the ring how many is Ruiz winning?danconnollyeire wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 19:11
Hitting a big guy to the body and having fast hands isn’t a fluke
It was a fluke.
Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 19:44
You need to get a sense of humour mate , it was a play on words with the " stay humble " Joshua thing .clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 19:30Stop me again while I'm walking and I'll cut your f*cking Jacobs off.
Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 19:45
He caught him with an awkward shot on the temple that AJ never recovered from. Landing that punch anywhere else and Joshua would have got his legs back and got back into the fight. The type of shot landed made it a fluke. The circumstances of AJ fighting recklessly made it a fluke. That wasn’t a default AJ in there .danconnollyeire wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 19:41AJ is only that version of AJ because of the loss though. You’re talking hypotheticals. Ruiz prepared to fight a guy who was muscle bound and went to bang guys out in the first fight and fought him as he should. Having a good left hook, rolling under a punch and landing it isn’t a fluke, it’s literally the sort of thing he’d train for his entire lifeRiddick Blowe wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 19:35
If that fight played out 10 times with that version of AJ in the ring how many is Ruiz winning?
It was a fluke.
Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 19:48
Ruiz is staying hungry!
Out of 10, Ridd? I'd back AJ to win 9 against this version of Ruiz. Against an 18st Ruiz, maybe 6 to 8. But I seriously believe that Ruiz doesn't want Wilder (happy to be wrong), and so on top of his newfound wealth, this represented the end of his road at the sharp end. I don't think he's scared of Fury for a minute, but realises how that'd play out. And if you paid him enough to fight Wilder, sure, but I just think his height, reach and power makes him a big favourite over Ruiz.
Best-case scenario for 2020 is Wilder-Fury II and AJ-Usyk, finally — FINALLY — leading to a showdown between the last two.
Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 19:50
He landed flush on AJ tonight, on the chin. Joshua laughed.Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 19:45He caught him with an awkward shot on the temple that AJ never recovered from. Landing that punch anywhere else and Joshua would have got his legs back and got back into the fight. The type of shot landed made it a fluke. The circumstances of AJ fighting recklessly made it a fluke. That wasn’t a default AJ in there .danconnollyeire wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 19:41
AJ is only that version of AJ because of the loss though. You’re talking hypotheticals. Ruiz prepared to fight a guy who was muscle bound and went to bang guys out in the first fight and fought him as he should. Having a good left hook, rolling under a punch and landing it isn’t a fluke, it’s literally the sort of thing he’d train for his entire life
Still, he should never have lost to Ruiz. He’s nothing special at all. Still, as mentioned above, it’s a weird state of play in the division. Hopefully Wilder v Fury produces an emphatic winner and he can then fight Joshua to decide who the top dog is. Can’t see it happening unfortunately
Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 19:59
I find it easy to imagine Fury delaying it because he isn't ready, when he's fought that Nordic lad and wossname in preparation. Wilder's on a good run now; hope it continues. This version of Joshua's definitely back in the mix.
But if they take much longer I can see Dubois coming along and upsetting one of them. He mightn't be all that, but I give him a chance if Rabbit doesn't put the brakes on his career. No hurry yet, obviously, but it's counterproductive to avoid challenges.
But if they take much longer I can see Dubois coming along and upsetting one of them. He mightn't be all that, but I give him a chance if Rabbit doesn't put the brakes on his career. No hurry yet, obviously, but it's counterproductive to avoid challenges.
Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 20:01
Their problem is, Fury especially, they don’t think they have to beat him. Merely saying they would beat is enough for them ( and their fans )
Not quite how it works. Both will be a little gutted tonight. They thought Ruiz had done their dirty work for them.
I think Joshua would knock both out, always have.
Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 20:16
Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 20:19
Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 20:24
Well in that case every punch is a fluke. A pub to the equilibrium is a fluke and no boxer has ever known about it so Thompson KOikg price was a fluke. If that’s the case if Lewis landed that shot to Rahman’s forehead and not his chin, that was a fluke. If hatton landed that Castillo body shot a few cm higher it would’ve been his ribs not his kidney.. fluke. If you’re in a ring and trying to ko someone and your punch fvcks them up... and you’ve been training to fvck someone up with your punches and it works who are you to call it a flukeRiddick Blowe wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 19:45He caught him with an awkward shot on the temple that AJ never recovered from. Landing that punch anywhere else and Joshua would have got his legs back and got back into the fight. The type of shot landed made it a fluke. The circumstances of AJ fighting recklessly made it a fluke. That wasn’t a default AJ in there .danconnollyeire wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 19:41
AJ is only that version of AJ because of the loss though. You’re talking hypotheticals. Ruiz prepared to fight a guy who was muscle bound and went to bang guys out in the first fight and fought him as he should. Having a good left hook, rolling under a punch and landing it isn’t a fluke, it’s literally the sort of thing he’d train for his entire life
what a joke he’d have thrown that punch 100s of times in training over that years. We all saw how determined he was after being floored in the first time, it was no fluke, it was a great shotRe: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 20:26
2x HW champ of the world! Haters gonna hate 
Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 20:26
Same. Both fit I’d have 7/3 AJ... doesn’t mean the first fight was a fluke. A little perspective is good. People on the beer tonight clearlyGrilling Machine wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 19:48Ruiz is staying hungry!
Out of 10, Ridd? I'd back AJ to win 9 against this version of Ruiz. Against an 18st Ruiz, maybe 6 to 8. But I seriously believe that Ruiz doesn't want Wilder (happy to be wrong), and so on top of his newfound wealth, this represented the end of his road at the sharp end. I don't think he's scared of Fury for a minute, but realises how that'd play out. And if you paid him enough to fight Wilder, sure, but I just think his height, reach and power makes him a big favourite over Ruiz.
Best-case scenario for 2020 is Wilder-Fury II and AJ-Usyk, finally — FINALLY — leading to a showdown between the last two.
Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 20:27
The ATG post was comparing AJ to Mayweather tonight wtf are people smoking. Mayweather?? Jesus fvcking Christ
wtf are people smoking. Mayweather?? Jesus fvcking ChristRe: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 20:29
Did you watch it live?
Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 20:31
Nah, unforttunetly
But as a certain man once said about another fighter, he lost to him 3 months ago, then dominated him in an immedikate rematch to get back his titles. That's some feat, huh boi?!
Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 20:32
My quote was from Bricktop in Snatch. So I was joking, too. And the 'humbled' thing was my play on words, too. So get your own sense of humourrd350lc wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 19:44You need to get a sense of humour mate , it was a play on words with the " stay humble " Joshua thing .clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 19:30
Stop me again while I'm walking and I'll cut your f*cking Jacobs off.
So no malice intended. It was a good night of boxing, so let's all be friends.
Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 20:34
Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 20:38
I don't pretend to know how anyone but myself thinks, but if I were either Fury or Wilder, there was nothing in tonight's performance that would make me hesitiate to face AJ. I want them all to fight each other and prove who is the best. And not just the three of them. I want to see Usyk; Whyte; Ortiz also get a taste of the top three who they haven't faced to date. Styles make fights and we have a lot of varying styles in the top 6 or 7 HW's.lillywhite14 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 20:01Their problem is, Fury especially, they don’t think they have to beat him. Merely saying they would beat is enough for them ( and their fans )
Not quite how it works. Both will be a little gutted tonight. They thought Ruiz had done their dirty work for them.
I think Joshua would knock both out, always have.
Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 20:41
I have a premonition: Usyk beats them all.oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 20:38I don't pretend to know how anyone but myself thinks, but if I were either Fury or Wilder, there was nothing in tonight's performance that would make me hesitiate to face AJ. I want them all to fight each other and prove who is the best. And not just the three of them. I want to see Usyk; Whyte; Ortiz also get a taste of the top three who they haven't faced to date. Styles make fights and we have a lot of varying styles in the top 6 or 7 HW's.lillywhite14 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 20:01
Their problem is, Fury especially, they don’t think they have to beat him. Merely saying they would beat is enough for them ( and their fans )
Not quite how it works. Both will be a little gutted tonight. They thought Ruiz had done their dirty work for them.
I think Joshua would knock both out, always have.
Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 20:43
I want to believe that tooclopixolacuphase wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 20:41I have a premonition: Usyk beats them all.oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 20:38
I don't pretend to know how anyone but myself thinks, but if I were either Fury or Wilder, there was nothing in tonight's performance that would make me hesitiate to face AJ. I want them all to fight each other and prove who is the best. And not just the three of them. I want to see Usyk; Whyte; Ortiz also get a taste of the top three who they haven't faced to date. Styles make fights and we have a lot of varying styles in the top 6 or 7 HW's.
Lack of power/size will always be an issue but ability wise he pisses over everyone!Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 20:43
Yes I was on the beersdanconnollyeire wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 20:24Well in that case every punch is a fluke. A pub to the equilibrium is a fluke and no boxer has ever known about it so Thompson KOikg price was a fluke. If that’s the case if Lewis landed that shot to Rahman’s forehead and not his chin, that was a fluke. If hatton landed that Castillo body shot a few cm higher it would’ve been his ribs not his kidney.. fluke. If you’re in a ring and trying to ko someone and your punch fvcks them up... and you’ve been training to fvck someone up with your punches and it works who are you to call it a flukeRiddick Blowe wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 19:45
He caught him with an awkward shot on the temple that AJ never recovered from. Landing that punch anywhere else and Joshua would have got his legs back and got back into the fight. The type of shot landed made it a fluke. The circumstances of AJ fighting recklessly made it a fluke. That wasn’t a default AJ in there .
My point was, it was a fluke because Joshua getting reckless set up that scenario. Ruiz did what he had to do under the circumstances, but it was all on Joshua.
fluke1
/fluːk/
noun
an unlikely chance occurrence, especially a surprising piece of luck.
"their victory was a bit of a fluke"
Ruiz winning was an unlikely chance occurrence precisely because Joshua fought like he did. Recklessly. And if you don’t believe it was an unlikely chance occurrence (ie the definition of the word fluke) you don’t agree with the overwhelming odds against Ruiz before the first fight.
Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 20:45
I hate that fat wank but i need to agree! Ruiz chipped away but he was going through the motions! Zero desire there! I wouldn't be surprised if we never saw him box again unless its an immediate rematch for the decider.....
Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 20:48
Can’t see it happening. Ruiz ain’t no Marquez and AJ is Pac-Man. No desire for a third, plus mandatories. The only way a third fight happens is if Ruiz beats fury and Usyk or something and becomes mandatory... ain’t happening
Re: Round-by-Round: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
Posted: 07 Dec 2019, 20:48
Agree, Josh was up 2-0, dropped Andy, then got wreckless going in for the kill and was never the same after getting hurt. Boxing to measure it was easy easy stuff for himRiddick Blowe wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 20:43Yes I was on the beersdanconnollyeire wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 20:24
Well in that case every punch is a fluke. A pub to the equilibrium is a fluke and no boxer has ever known about it so Thompson KOikg price was a fluke. If that’s the case if Lewis landed that shot to Rahman’s forehead and not his chin, that was a fluke. If hatton landed that Castillo body shot a few cm higher it would’ve been his ribs not his kidney.. fluke. If you’re in a ring and trying to ko someone and your punch fvcks them up... and you’ve been training to fvck someone up with your punches and it works who are you to call it a fluke
My point was, it was a fluke because Joshua getting reckless set up that scenario. Ruiz did what he had to do under the circumstances, but it was all on Joshua.
fluke1
/fluːk/
noun
an unlikely chance occurrence, especially a surprising piece of luck.
"their victory was a bit of a fluke"
Ruiz winning was an unlikely chance occurrence precisely because Joshua fought like he did. Recklessly. And if you don’t believe it was an unlikely chance occurrence (ie the definition of the word fluke) you don’t agree with the overwhelming odds against Ruiz before the first fight.