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jimmystone wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 07:56

samwbr wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 07:54 Renegotiate the hydration clause. Hope Eubank absolutely mullers him.

See my post above. I fully expect Eubanks will have done this. I don't even think he'll try and make weight now and the scale readings will be bogus.

Robert Smith should order the fight to not go ahead but he is likely to weak of a character to do that.

Combined £6m purse!

A lot of people will want their cut!

The Board will do fvck all as usual. Cancelled a perfectly good show for no reason a few weeks ago, but will let this go on unaffected. Should be scrapped as not fit for purpose.

If Eubank doesn’t mention this at the presser il be really intrigued to know what’s been negotiated. Hope Benn gets mullered

jimmystone wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 07:52

Monzon83 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 07:47 What makes me laugh is some idiot on TalkSport is now saying it's not a performance enhancing drug.

Anyone who googles Clomid and steroids will find out instantly exactly what it's used for.

The arrogance to try and blag their way through this is breathtaking.

Keep it up, mate, you are all over this one. These people are money grubbing filth.

Clomid can be misused by athletes to boost sports performance and counter the side effects of anabolic steroid use

Eubank needs to weigh over 160 if he takes it.
Benn looked on something when I saw a recent picture. Another disgusting cheat taking something plus making eubank suffer with rehydration clause.

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 07:59 The Board will do fvck all as usual. Cancelled a perfectly good show for no reason a few weeks ago, but will let this go on unaffected. Should be scrapped as not fit for purpose.

Can they actually do anything?

Why hasn’t he failed a UKAD test? Is it not on their banned list (like the Billy Joe one a few years back), or do they need to wait for the b-sample? Or in their testing did he not fail?

maverick23 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 08:08

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 07:59 The Board will do fvck all as usual. Cancelled a perfectly good show for no reason a few weeks ago, but will let this go on unaffected. Should be scrapped as not fit for purpose.

Can they actually do anything?

Why hasn’t he failed a UKAD test? Is it not on their banned list (like the Billy Joe one a few years back), or do they need to wait for the b-sample? Or in their testing did he not fail?

If they can cancel a show because a lady has died of old age, I imagine they can cancel a show if the headliner fails a drug test

What a mess.

I was thinking earlier that the winner of this fight, particularly if it was Benn, would really go to the next level hype wise.

Is what Benn tested positive naturally occurring in blokes? Wonder if they’re seeing if it’s naturally produced by wild boars.

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 08:10

maverick23 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 08:08

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 07:59 The Board will do fvck all as usual. Cancelled a perfectly good show for no reason a few weeks ago, but will let this go on unaffected. Should be scrapped as not fit for purpose.

Can they actually do anything?

Why hasn’t he failed a UKAD test? Is it not on their banned list (like the Billy Joe one a few years back), or do they need to wait for the b-sample? Or in their testing did he not fail?

If they can cancel a show because a lady has died of old age, I imagine they can cancel a show if the headliner fails a drug test

You’d have thought so but in their rules, has he actually done anything wrong? Clearly he has but they’d need grounds as to why it shouldn’t go ahead.

I bet Kugan’s been messaging Eddie all morning trying to get first dibs.

maverick23 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 08:08Why hasn’t he failed a UKAD test? Is it not on their banned list (like the Billy Joe one a few years back), or do they need to wait for the b-sample? Or in their testing did he not fail?

Not all tests are taken on the same day, obviously. The skill to doping is not getting caught. Benn may have blown his VADA test by a day or two and then passed a UKAD test the day after that, for example. This stuff doesn't stay in your system for ever but the benefits are long lasting.

unknownman79 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 08:05 Eubank needs to weigh over 160 if he takes it.
Benn looked on something when I saw a recent picture. Another disgusting cheat taking something plus making eubank suffer with rehydration clause.

Yeh. Just because the limit is 157, doesn’t mean Benn HAS to come in at that weight.

I remember when Pac fought Margarito, catchweight 152 I think. Pac came in below 145.

jimmystone wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 08:16

maverick23 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 08:08Why hasn’t he failed a UKAD test? Is it not on their banned list (like the Billy Joe one a few years back), or do they need to wait for the b-sample? Or in their testing did he not fail?

Not all tests are taken on the same day, obviously. The skill to doping is not getting caught. Benn may have blown his VADA test by a day or two and then passed a UKAD test the day after that, for example. This stuff doesn't stay in your system for ever but the benefits are long lasting.

Ok - so it’s a banned substance by VADA and by UKAD too but he just luckily passed their test.

I know very little about this kind of stuff. Is it naturally occurring in blokes?

maverick23 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 08:18

jimmystone wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 08:16

maverick23 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 08:08Why hasn’t he failed a UKAD test? Is it not on their banned list (like the Billy Joe one a few years back), or do they need to wait for the b-sample? Or in their testing did he not fail?

Not all tests are taken on the same day, obviously. The skill to doping is not getting caught. Benn may have blown his VADA test by a day or two and then passed a UKAD test the day after that, for example. This stuff doesn't stay in your system for ever but the benefits are long lasting.

Ok - so it’s a banned substance by VADA and by UKAD too but he just luckily passed their test.

I know very little about this kind of stuff. Is it naturally occurring in blokes?

Nope, its a drug that has to be taken. Helps recover Testosterone levels quicker after a cycle of anabolic steroids

maverick23 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 08:18

jimmystone wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 08:16

maverick23 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 08:08Why hasn’t he failed a UKAD test? Is it not on their banned list (like the Billy Joe one a few years back), or do they need to wait for the b-sample? Or in their testing did he not fail?

Not all tests are taken on the same day, obviously. The skill to doping is not getting caught. Benn may have blown his VADA test by a day or two and then passed a UKAD test the day after that, for example. This stuff doesn't stay in your system for ever but the benefits are long lasting.

Ok - so it’s a banned substance by VADA and by UKAD too but he just luckily passed their test.

I know very little about this kind of stuff. Is it naturally occurring in blokes?

No it's not naturally occurring. You take Clomid after a steroid cycle to help restart your natural testosterone production. It's an anti-estrogen drug used to treat fertility problems in women.

https://steroidcycle.org/clomid-pct/

Looks like the clomiphene worked

maverick23 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 08:18

jimmystone wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 08:16

maverick23 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 08:08Why hasn’t he failed a UKAD test? Is it not on their banned list (like the Billy Joe one a few years back), or do they need to wait for the b-sample? Or in their testing did he not fail?

Not all tests are taken on the same day, obviously. The skill to doping is not getting caught. Benn may have blown his VADA test by a day or two and then passed a UKAD test the day after that, for example. This stuff doesn't stay in your system for ever but the benefits are long lasting.

Ok - so it’s a banned substance by VADA and by UKAD too but he just luckily passed their test.

I know very little about this kind of stuff. Is it naturally occurring in blokes?

When drug cheats/users come off anabolic steroids their own natural testosterone is significantly lowered and their natural estrogen levels may be significantly elevated. These people take drugs such as Clomid to block estrogen from interacting with the pituitary gland. This leads to an increase in their own natural testosterone bringing the natural balance back closer to normal.

It is not naturally occurring. His only real hope of an excuse is that the test is contaminated, highly unlikely, or that he accidentally took his partner's fertility drugs. Nobody will believe him though.

Can someone help with with the process

VADA is voluntary isn't it. So whilst it will show up samples, you cannot break any rules as they don't have authority on the fight. The rules are UKAD/BBBoC and obviously the contract for the fight. Also, the B sample will only be tested by VADA if the athlete requests it?

So can the statement "The B sample has yet to be tested, meaning that no rule violation has been confirmed" actually be correct?

I hope the proper media are all over Benn's team and Matchroom on this.

Well, the fight has a finally made Sky Sports news.

jimmystone wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 08:33

maverick23 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 08:18

jimmystone wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 08:16

Not all tests are taken on the same day, obviously. The skill to doping is not getting caught. Benn may have blown his VADA test by a day or two and then passed a UKAD test the day after that, for example. This stuff doesn't stay in your system for ever but the benefits are long lasting.

Ok - so it’s a banned substance by VADA and by UKAD too but he just luckily passed their test.

I know very little about this kind of stuff. Is it naturally occurring in blokes?

When drug cheats/users come off anabolic steroids their own natural testosterone is significantly lowered and their natural estrogen levels may be significantly elevated. These people take drugs such as Clomid to block estrogen from interacting with the pituitary gland. This leads to an increase in their own natural testosterone bringing the natural balance back closer to normal.

It is not naturally occurring. His only real hope of an excuse is that the test is contaminated, highly unlikely, or that he accidentally took his partner's fertility drugs. Nobody will believe him though.

It would suggest he had some knowledge of when he would be tested to fit in his steroids cycles. It would be interesting to know how he kept under the radar for the last few weeks. Was he training abroad far away?

Isle of wight.

jimmystone wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 08:33

maverick23 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 08:18

jimmystone wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 08:16

Not all tests are taken on the same day, obviously. The skill to doping is not getting caught. Benn may have blown his VADA test by a day or two and then passed a UKAD test the day after that, for example. This stuff doesn't stay in your system for ever but the benefits are long lasting.

Ok - so it’s a banned substance by VADA and by UKAD too but he just luckily passed their test.

I know very little about this kind of stuff. Is it naturally occurring in blokes?

When drug cheats/users come off anabolic steroids their own natural testosterone is significantly lowered and their natural estrogen levels may be significantly elevated. These people take drugs such as Clomid to block estrogen from interacting with the pituitary gland. This leads to an increase in their own natural testosterone bringing the natural balance back closer to normal.

It is not naturally occurring. His only real hope of an excuse is that the test is contaminated, highly unlikely, or that he accidentally took his partner's fertility drugs. Nobody will believe him though.

Thanks.

So clearly there’s no way he accidentally took his partner’s pills (who a year or two ago had a baby). Only possible way to argue it is contamination which I’d imagine is super unlikely.

I bet this is causing absolute chaos. Eubank Snr will be pushing for the fight to be cancelled, Conor’s either pregnant or his head will be fried by being caught, they can’t promote the same way and commercial partners may not be as keen to be involved. Plus Eubank Jr will likely be asking for all sorts as recompense.

Weirdly I wonder if this might help their PPV sales. I’ve had 3 casual boxing fan mates already message me about this.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 08:44 Isle of wight.

I’m pretty sure his partner wasn’t even staying with him there so there goes the easiest excuse.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 08:40 Well, the fight has a finally made Sky Sports news.

It’s first thing I’ve seen relating to the fight on the Sky Sports website.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 08:40 Well, the fight has a finally made Sky Sports news.

The clowns at sky sports, desperate to bury the fight, but also desperate to throw shade on it, so leading with the story on sky sports news and thereby promoting it at the same time, what conflicted agony