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Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - July 2023

Posted: 09 Jun 2023, 19:07
by Redback Rasta
mickey1975 wrote: 09 Jun 2023, 13:59
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 09 Jun 2023, 11:03 Well, it looks like Fury will have one fight this year, and a shite one at that.

I bet he is currently eyeing Joshua's deal with the Saudis, and beginning to wonder when he will get some of that sweet sweet saudi money.
What is Joshua’s deal?
No deal has been made yet, as far as we know. Only wild speculation and a wide range of numbers, thus far.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - July 2023

Posted: 09 Jun 2023, 21:31
by coneye
The Gratest wrote: 09 Jun 2023, 02:08
Redback Rasta wrote: 08 Jun 2023, 23:08 Regardless what he is saying, doing or not doing people are talking about Fury. He is a human headline.
Philio Schofield's overtaken him for now.

Looks like its Scholefield for september then , providing he can make Furys weight restrictions and willing to do 70-30 Furys favor fo the rematch

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - July 2023

Posted: 10 Jun 2023, 03:57
by BigDoofus
coneye wrote: 08 Jun 2023, 23:28 Yes but he's also just becoming boring , personaly i see him pop up on facebook mouthing off i just scroll on , i see him on the u tube or whatever i don't even click on , he's even got me thinking about him has a boxer and i think dull grab hold rinse repeat , couple of the Wilder fights turned out good but for a long time his fights really have been quite shite .. his mouth is what got the interest there not the skills .

Now i just see him has a ducker trying to emulate the other fella who claims to be the greatest , you know the bloke who dodged and cherry picked older worn out champs to his 50-0 and still remains just has mouthy to stay relevent not to mention greedy .

Naaaw Tyson Fury is finished he's hit his peak ,and its well gone his biggest fight now is to stay relevent still grab sponsors money and duck the others , Aj he's pretty much the same and Wilder well he only fought one top teir in Tyson and got battered sensless , so really he's irrelvent , The men at the top are definetly Usyk and at this moment in time i would go has far has to say Zang , and before anyone says rubbish to him , tell me who wants to fight him seems a logical ne for Fury but looks like he don't want that one either .

Naaw Furys, finished , irrelevent , gone , waste of time , just a celebrity , don't waste your time discusing him , just find a boxer to follow who deserves it , and if your a mind too go to his meet and greet shows , pay your 100 quid or whatever , fork out another 150 quid whatever get your photo with him and pass it down to your grandkids ,

But regards him fighting another top 3 opponent forget it , he may fight AJ but he's finished has well , for me if its not Ruiz , Usyk or the chinaman , i'm not interested , anything else is just a make him and Fwank richer fight
Being bored of him doesn’t stop you posting your daily vitriol.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - July 2023

Posted: 10 Jun 2023, 04:35
by The Gratest
The irony! :lol:

Congratulations!🪄🎈🥳 a post where you don't mention *whispers* Anthony Joshua :yay:

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - July 2023

Posted: 10 Jun 2023, 05:12
by coneye
BigDoofus wrote: 10 Jun 2023, 03:57
coneye wrote: 08 Jun 2023, 23:28 Yes but he's also just becoming boring , personaly i see him pop up on facebook mouthing off i just scroll on , i see him on the u tube or whatever i don't even click on , he's even got me thinking about him has a boxer and i think dull grab hold rinse repeat , couple of the Wilder fights turned out good but for a long time his fights really have been quite shite .. his mouth is what got the interest there not the skills .

Now i just see him has a ducker trying to emulate the other fella who claims to be the greatest , you know the bloke who dodged and cherry picked older worn out champs to his 50-0 and still remains just has mouthy to stay relevent not to mention greedy .

Naaaw Tyson Fury is finished he's hit his peak ,and its well gone his biggest fight now is to stay relevent still grab sponsors money and duck the others , Aj he's pretty much the same and Wilder well he only fought one top teir in Tyson and got battered sensless , so really he's irrelvent , The men at the top are definetly Usyk and at this moment in time i would go has far has to say Zang , and before anyone says rubbish to him , tell me who wants to fight him seems a logical ne for Fury but looks like he don't want that one either .

Naaw Furys, finished , irrelevent , gone , waste of time , just a celebrity , don't waste your time discusing him , just find a boxer to follow who deserves it , and if your a mind too go to his meet and greet shows , pay your 100 quid or whatever , fork out another 150 quid whatever get your photo with him and pass it down to your grandkids ,

But regards him fighting another top 3 opponent forget it , he may fight AJ but he's finished has well , for me if its not Ruiz , Usyk or the chinaman , i'm not interested , anything else is just a make him and Fwank richer fight
Being bored of him doesn’t stop you posting your daily vitriol.
I had a response to you but decided , responding and arguing with idiots just makes me a bigger idiot so , i wil not bother , except to say , it may be time to look for another hero , this ones past his use by date ,

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - July 2023

Posted: 10 Jun 2023, 11:16
by joshj909


Two from the list of a few that I've been predicting for a while now. Bakole a slight name in the UK while Kabayel is easy and they will sell him as a guy who beat Chisora.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - July 2023

Posted: 10 Jun 2023, 18:26
by Redback Rasta
Bakole is WBA #2 and WBC #7.

Kabayei is IBF #7, WBO #10, WBC #13 and WBA #14.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - July 2023

Posted: 10 Jun 2023, 18:54
by The Gratest
joshj909 wrote: 10 Jun 2023, 11:16

Two from the list of a few that I've been predicting for a while now. Bakole a slight name in the UK while Kabayel is easy and they will sell him as a guy who beat Chisora.
Not many guys have beaten Chisora.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - July 2023

Posted: 11 Jun 2023, 04:47
by joshj909
The Gratest wrote: 10 Jun 2023, 18:54
joshj909 wrote: 10 Jun 2023, 11:16

Two from the list of a few that I've been predicting for a while now. Bakole a slight name in the UK while Kabayel is easy and they will sell him as a guy who beat Chisora.
Not many guys have beaten Chisora.
Chisora has only lost to champs, former champs, contenders, prospects and veterans. It's a good selling point.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - July 2023

Posted: 11 Jun 2023, 06:21
by ALI
joshj909 wrote: 11 Jun 2023, 04:47
The Gratest wrote: 10 Jun 2023, 18:54
joshj909 wrote: 10 Jun 2023, 11:16

Two from the list of a few that I've been predicting for a while now. Bakole a slight name in the UK while Kabayel is easy and they will sell him as a guy who beat Chisora.
Not many guys have beaten Chisora.
Chisora has only lost to champs, former champs, contenders, prospects and veterans. It's a good selling point.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - July 2023

Posted: 11 Jun 2023, 10:11
by wrighty
ALI wrote: 11 Jun 2023, 06:21
joshj909 wrote: 11 Jun 2023, 04:47
The Gratest wrote: 10 Jun 2023, 18:54
Not many guys have beaten Chisora.
Chisora has only lost to champs, former champs, contenders, prospects and veterans. It's a good selling point.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Kabayel is a weird one. He's been European champ a few times but has had no momentum. Good record but an easy one for Fury i should think

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - July 2023

Posted: 11 Jun 2023, 10:21
by tigermoth87
I'd love him to get sparked by a nobody like Kabaywl.

Embarssment to boxing.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - July 2023

Posted: 11 Jun 2023, 11:02
by Manchester Hitman
If Fury does fight, my guess is Efe Ajagba will be under heavy consideration. It’s in house with Bob and they would market him with his KO reel as a big threat in the Wilder mode.

Reality is as we know, he wouldn’t hit Tyson with a hand full of rice, but they should be able to fool the general public.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - July 2023

Posted: 11 Jun 2023, 13:04
by dookus
joshj909 wrote: 11 Jun 2023, 04:47
The Gratest wrote: 10 Jun 2023, 18:54
joshj909 wrote: 10 Jun 2023, 11:16

Two from the list of a few that I've been predicting for a while now. Bakole a slight name in the UK while Kabayel is easy and they will sell him as a guy who beat Chisora.
Not many guys have beaten Chisora.
Chisora has only lost to champs, former champs, contenders, prospects and veterans. It's a good selling point.
:lol:

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - July 2023

Posted: 12 Jun 2023, 06:04
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
joshj909 wrote: 10 Jun 2023, 11:16

Two from the list of a few that I've been predicting for a while now. Bakole a slight name in the UK while Kabayel is easy and they will sell him as a guy who beat Chisora.
If Bakole is anywhere near as good as his trainer alludes too it'll be Kabayel then.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - July 2023

Posted: 12 Jun 2023, 16:53
by mickey1975
Nightmare Roy wrote: 09 Jun 2023, 15:58
mickey1975 wrote: 09 Jun 2023, 14:54
Nightmare Roy wrote: 09 Jun 2023, 14:38
Double what he would get for Fury at Wembley according to Eddeh
He said there was no deal a few hours ago. Just an offer.
I'm guessing the offer will become a deal if they are happy with it.
The skills challenge guy said tonight there has been no offer. They’ve just shown interest. Hearn has started to lie, and be caught out, a lot more as he’s getting older/losing control.
The Boxing Kingdom interview is very good, puts it straight to the Skills guy about Kinahan who made it clear EVERYONE was dealing with him.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - July 2023

Posted: 13 Jun 2023, 02:20
by BigDoofus
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 09 Jun 2023, 11:03 Well, it looks like Fury will have one fight this year, and a shite one at that.

I bet he is currently eyeing Joshua's deal with the Saudis, and beginning to wonder when he will get some of that sweet sweet saudi money.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - July 2023

Posted: 13 Jun 2023, 02:52
by Redback Rasta
BigDoofus wrote: 13 Jun 2023, 02:20
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 09 Jun 2023, 11:03 Well, it looks like Fury will have one fight this year, and a shite one at that.

I bet he is currently eyeing Joshua's deal with the Saudis, and beginning to wonder when he will get some of that sweet sweet saudi money.
Eddie Hearn and Amer Abdallah don't seem to be on the same page.

But what constitutes an 'official offer'? Probably depends on who you ask?

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - July 2023

Posted: 13 Jun 2023, 03:22
by maverick23
mickey1975 wrote: 12 Jun 2023, 16:53
Nightmare Roy wrote: 09 Jun 2023, 15:58
mickey1975 wrote: 09 Jun 2023, 14:54
He said there was no deal a few hours ago. Just an offer.
I'm guessing the offer will become a deal if they are happy with it.
The skills challenge guy said tonight there has been no offer. They’ve just shown interest. Hearn has started to lie, and be caught out, a lot more as he’s getting older/losing control.
The Boxing Kingdom interview is very good, puts it straight to the Skills guy about Kinahan who made it clear EVERYONE was dealing with him.
Hearn has always pushed the truth. All promoters do. One week he thinks Galahad beat Warrington, he then signs Warrington again and now he scored the fight a draw.

A guess an ‘offer’ could be interpreted in a few different ways. They may have verbally said what they expect the potential deal to be and Hearn’s taken that as being an offer whilst in reality there’s nothing in writing to confirm it as an offer.

Boxing King is probably my favourite of the YT channels. Bar the Ingles he doesn’t have the same favouritism and seemingly isn’t scared about asking the tougher questions.

Given the amount of fighters MTK had globally I’m not surprised everyone was dealing with Kinahan.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - July 2023

Posted: 13 Jun 2023, 03:25
by mickey1975
maverick23 wrote: 13 Jun 2023, 03:22
mickey1975 wrote: 12 Jun 2023, 16:53
Nightmare Roy wrote: 09 Jun 2023, 15:58

I'm guessing the offer will become a deal if they are happy with it.
The skills challenge guy said tonight there has been no offer. They’ve just shown interest. Hearn has started to lie, and be caught out, a lot more as he’s getting older/losing control.
The Boxing Kingdom interview is very good, puts it straight to the Skills guy about Kinahan who made it clear EVERYONE was dealing with him.
Hearn has always pushed the truth. All promoters do. One week he thinks Galahad beat Warrington, he then signs Warrington again and now he scored the fight a draw.

A guess an ‘offer’ could be interpreted in a few different ways. They may have verbally said what they expect the potential deal to be and Hearn’s taken that as being an offer whilst in reality there’s nothing in writing to confirm it as an offer.

Boxing King is probably my favourite of the YT channels. Bar the Ingles he doesn’t have the same favouritism and seemingly isn’t scared about asking the tougher questions.

Given the amount of fighters MTK had globally I’m not surprised everyone was dealing with Kinahan.
It was the way he said it. Sort of - everyone dealt with Daniel, why deny it?.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - July 2023

Posted: 13 Jun 2023, 03:25
by gregregegg
“Offer” is the most dogshit thing iv ever heard from any/all promoters…. To me an offer is only worth anything if it has date, venue, pay, weight, tv, drug testing, ect in it…

All these “offers” with no date or venue…. That doesn’t mean shit because it can not be legally binding and people can always use those things to get out of it…

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - July 2023

Posted: 13 Jun 2023, 03:51
by maverick23
mickey1975 wrote: 13 Jun 2023, 03:25
maverick23 wrote: 13 Jun 2023, 03:22
mickey1975 wrote: 12 Jun 2023, 16:53
The skills challenge guy said tonight there has been no offer. They’ve just shown interest. Hearn has started to lie, and be caught out, a lot more as he’s getting older/losing control.
The Boxing Kingdom interview is very good, puts it straight to the Skills guy about Kinahan who made it clear EVERYONE was dealing with him.
Hearn has always pushed the truth. All promoters do. One week he thinks Galahad beat Warrington, he then signs Warrington again and now he scored the fight a draw.

A guess an ‘offer’ could be interpreted in a few different ways. They may have verbally said what they expect the potential deal to be and Hearn’s taken that as being an offer whilst in reality there’s nothing in writing to confirm it as an offer.

Boxing King is probably my favourite of the YT channels. Bar the Ingles he doesn’t have the same favouritism and seemingly isn’t scared about asking the tougher questions.

Given the amount of fighters MTK had globally I’m not surprised everyone was dealing with Kinahan.
It was the way he said it. Sort of - everyone dealt with Daniel, why deny it?.
I agree. It’s stupid for people to deny it yet many people have. Shalom won’t allow questions about him and Frank, Eddie and Bob said they barely dealt with him at all (despite Bob saying previously he was an honest and honourable man).

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - July 2023

Posted: 13 Jun 2023, 04:35
by The Gratest
gregregegg wrote: 13 Jun 2023, 03:25 “Offer” is the most dogshit thing iv ever heard from any/all promoters…. To me an offer is only worth anything if it has date, venue, pay, weight, tv, drug testing, ect in it…

All these “offers” with no date or venue…. That doesn’t mean shit because it can not be legally binding and people can always use those things to get out of it…
True.
There's a well known heavyweight who makes such fight 'offers' over social media media all the time, and his fans go into meltdown if the opposition dismiss or just laugh at them.
I guess it all depends on who's making the 'offer', who's on the receiving end of the 'offer', and whose plums you enjoying sucking the most.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - July 2023

Posted: 13 Jun 2023, 04:56
by mickey1975
Also in the interview, he said they were dealing directly with Canelos people. I guess they don’t mean Matchroom.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - July 2023

Posted: 13 Jun 2023, 05:39
by maverick23
mickey1975 wrote: 13 Jun 2023, 04:56 Also in the interview, he said they were dealing directly with Canelos people. I guess they don’t mean Matchroom.
Yeah. I took that too. Wonder if if Canelo will want Matchroom involved. I’d be surprised if they can get the weight right for it to be honest.