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BigDoofus wrote: ↑15 Feb 2024, 06:08

Coco wrote: ↑14 Feb 2024, 21:32
There is no way Fury cut himself on purpose, the injury is genuine, but there are some flat earthers out there!

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/boxing/9 ... arth-nasa/

BigDoofus wrote: ↑15 Feb 2024, 07:24

big lennox wrote: ↑15 Feb 2024, 07:04 When Lewis vs Holyfield was made, no one was doubting it would happen. And they ended boxing twice..

When did Lewis v Bowe happen?
How many years did it take for Lewis v Tyson?

BigDoofus wrote: ↑15 Feb 2024, 07:24

big lennox wrote: ↑15 Feb 2024, 07:04 When Lewis vs Holyfield was made, no one was doubting it would happen. And they ended boxing twice..

When did Lewis v Bowe happen?
How many years did it take for Lewis v Tyson?

jwfg wrote: ↑15 Feb 2024, 07:35

BigDoofus wrote: ↑15 Feb 2024, 07:24

big lennox wrote: ↑15 Feb 2024, 07:04 When Lewis vs Holyfield was made, no one was doubting it would happen. And they ended boxing twice..

When did Lewis v Bowe happen?
How many years did it take for Lewis v Tyson?

Tyson is a convicted rapist, so the fight couldn't be made while he was in prison. Then he had rebuilding fights, then paid Lewis to step aside, then lost to Holyfield twice, then he was banned for biting Evander's ear, then he was rebuilding again, then the fight got made.

big lennox wrote: ↑15 Feb 2024, 07:04 When Lewis vs Holyfield was made, no one was doubting it would happen. And they ended boxing twice.

But with Fury vs Uysk, a lot of people doubted that Fury would take the challenge on the 23rd December. End result, he didn't.

It was rescheduled for 17th February and a lot of fans and ex pros doubted it would happen and suspected that Fury would find a reason to pull out. End result, Fury got cut, did pull out and grainy, inconclusive, footage emerged.

Is anyone absolutely confident that Fury will be available on the 18th May?

I hope so. At this stage, he needs this fight more than Uysk, legacy wise.

Coco wrote: ↑15 Feb 2024, 09:17

big lennox wrote: ↑15 Feb 2024, 07:04 When Lewis vs Holyfield was made, no one was doubting it would happen. And they ended boxing twice.

But with Fury vs Uysk, a lot of people doubted that Fury would take the challenge on the 23rd December. End result, he didn't.

It was rescheduled for 17th February and a lot of fans and ex pros doubted it would happen and suspected that Fury would find a reason to pull out. End result, Fury got cut, did pull out and grainy, inconclusive, footage emerged.

Is anyone absolutely confident that Fury will be available on the 18th May?

I hope so. At this stage, he needs this fight more than Uysk, legacy wise.

If Fury wants out of the fight there are lots of easy injuries to fake, no one would cut themself as it will put them at a disadvantage for the future.

It's like asking someone to break your hand.

As I said, if you need to feign an injury, any x-ray of any boxers hand would show a mess, enough for a sick note.

Coco wrote: ↑15 Feb 2024, 09:17

big lennox wrote: ↑15 Feb 2024, 07:04 When Lewis vs Holyfield was made, no one was doubting it would happen. And they ended boxing twice.

But with Fury vs Uysk, a lot of people doubted that Fury would take the challenge on the 23rd December. End result, he didn't.

It was rescheduled for 17th February and a lot of fans and ex pros doubted it would happen and suspected that Fury would find a reason to pull out. End result, Fury got cut, did pull out and grainy, inconclusive, footage emerged.

Is anyone absolutely confident that Fury will be available on the 18th May?

I hope so. At this stage, he needs this fight more than Uysk, legacy wise.

If Fury wants out of the fight there are lots of easy injuries to fake, no one would cut themself as it will put them at a disadvantage for the future.

It's like asking someone to break your hand.

As I said, if you need to feign an injury, any x-ray of any boxers hand would show a mess, enough for a sick note.

jwfg wrote: ↑15 Feb 2024, 09:33

Coco wrote: ↑15 Feb 2024, 09:17

big lennox wrote: ↑15 Feb 2024, 07:04 When Lewis vs Holyfield was made, no one was doubting it would happen. And they ended boxing twice.

But with Fury vs Uysk, a lot of people doubted that Fury would take the challenge on the 23rd December. End result, he didn't.

It was rescheduled for 17th February and a lot of fans and ex pros doubted it would happen and suspected that Fury would find a reason to pull out. End result, Fury got cut, did pull out and grainy, inconclusive, footage emerged.

Is anyone absolutely confident that Fury will be available on the 18th May?

I hope so. At this stage, he needs this fight more than Uysk, legacy wise.

If Fury wants out of the fight there are lots of easy injuries to fake, no one would cut themself as it will put them at a disadvantage for the future.

It's like asking someone to break your hand.

As I said, if you need to feign an injury, any x-ray of any boxers hand would show a mess, enough for a sick note.

Do you think Haye cut himself ahead of the first proposed fight?

Coco wrote: ↑15 Feb 2024, 09:17

big lennox wrote: ↑15 Feb 2024, 07:04 When Lewis vs Holyfield was made, no one was doubting it would happen. And they ended boxing twice.

But with Fury vs Uysk, a lot of people doubted that Fury would take the challenge on the 23rd December. End result, he didn't.

It was rescheduled for 17th February and a lot of fans and ex pros doubted it would happen and suspected that Fury would find a reason to pull out. End result, Fury got cut, did pull out and grainy, inconclusive, footage emerged.

Is anyone absolutely confident that Fury will be available on the 18th May?

I hope so. At this stage, he needs this fight more than Uysk, legacy wise.

If Fury wants out of the fight there are lots of easy injuries to fake, no one would cut themself as it will put them at a disadvantage for the future.

It's like asking someone to break your hand.

As I said, if you need to feign an injury, any x-ray of any boxers hand would show a mess, enough for a sick note.

big lennox wrote: ↑15 Feb 2024, 10:12

Coco wrote: ↑15 Feb 2024, 09:17

big lennox wrote: ↑15 Feb 2024, 07:04 When Lewis vs Holyfield was made, no one was doubting it would happen. And they ended boxing twice.

But with Fury vs Uysk, a lot of people doubted that Fury would take the challenge on the 23rd December. End result, he didn't.

It was rescheduled for 17th February and a lot of fans and ex pros doubted it would happen and suspected that Fury would find a reason to pull out. End result, Fury got cut, did pull out and grainy, inconclusive, footage emerged.

Is anyone absolutely confident that Fury will be available on the 18th May?

I hope so. At this stage, he needs this fight more than Uysk, legacy wise.

If Fury wants out of the fight there are lots of easy injuries to fake, no one would cut themself as it will put them at a disadvantage for the future.

It's like asking someone to break your hand.

As I said, if you need to feign an injury, any x-ray of any boxers hand would show a mess, enough for a sick note.

I'm not saying he cut himself on purpuse, just that it is a fact that there has been two formal dates signed and he has pulled out both times.

Also, I listened to interviews with Dominic Ingle and Carl Froch, who have coached and boxed to the highest possible level, respectively, and they questioned the type of headgear and sparring Fury was wearing and doing at that stage of training camp.

Was it just recklessness on his part or was his form not quite as good as he wanted and was trying to fight himself into form?

I remember David Tua saying he gave Holyfield all the problems in the world during sparring for most of the camp for the Holyfield vs Tyson 1 fight until, suddenly, Holyfield hit top form and gave him a pasting every day for a week. It could be that type of scenario?

It's all hard to pin point, but it is much harder getting Fury into the ring against Uysk than it was getting Holyfield and Lewis to fight. They signed, the fought, and then had an immediate rematch.

big lennox wrote: ↑15 Feb 2024, 10:12
It's all hard to pin point, but it is much harder getting Fury into the ring against Uysk than it was getting Holyfield and Lewis to fight. They signed, the fought, and then had an immediate rematch.

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑15 Feb 2024, 10:37 why did Bowe lob the belt in the bin?

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑15 Feb 2024, 11:15

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑15 Feb 2024, 10:37 why did Bowe lob the belt in the bin?

Lewis admitted himself that he was offered 3 million for the fight in 1992 and turned it down.

Bowe threw the belt in the bin because it was going to be taken off him anyway.

Lewis would rather have picked up the vacant title than fight Bowe for 3 million for it. Straight out of his own mouth.

Lewis isn't beating 1992 Bowe in my view.

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑15 Feb 2024, 12:10 In the Olympic fight Bowe is actually winning it handily. Especially round 1. Gets caught in round 2 and beaten but Bowe was known to get hurt even as an amateur and recover. Quick stoppage in an Olympic final.

I'm not sure any fighter beats that Bowe of the first Holyfield fight nevermind Lewis. Pretty much shot to pieces 4 years later vs Golota. The style caught up with him along with eating like a pig.

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑15 Feb 2024, 10:37 why did Bowe lob the belt in the bin?

jwfg wrote: ↑15 Feb 2024, 12:25

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑15 Feb 2024, 12:10 In the Olympic fight Bowe is actually winning it handily. Especially round 1. Gets caught in round 2 and beaten but Bowe was known to get hurt even as an amateur and recover. Quick stoppage in an Olympic final.

I'm not sure any fighter beats that Bowe of the first Holyfield fight nevermind Lewis. Pretty much shot to pieces 4 years later vs Golota. The style caught up with him along with eating like a pig.

So Bowe was amazing, even when got stopped in the Olympics and he was shot to pieces, because he was losing back to back fights against a guy Lewis dispatched in a round?

stevec@france wrote: ↑15 Feb 2024, 12:56

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑15 Feb 2024, 10:37 why did Bowe lob the belt in the bin?

didnt want to fight lewis and made up a whole pile of tosh about boxing politics and money etc .

threw the belt in the bin on tv .

lewis wud have smashed him - I think they fought in the ams and maybe there was some bad blood .

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑15 Feb 2024, 13:05 there's an article in this week's BN about Bowe. Only cost £300 to get him on Buncey's Boxing Hour!

jwfg wrote: ↑15 Feb 2024, 12:25
So Bowe was amazing, even when got stopped in the Olympics and he was shot to pieces, because he was losing back to back fights against a guy Lewis dispatched in a round?