Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk | PPV - 18 May 2024

[big lennox]

Bowe looked great against Holyfield but who else did he beat? Title defences against Ferguson and Dokes were scraping the barrel.

He looked good against Gonzalez. Sadly, I think lack of discipline and over eating ( building a kitchen into his bedroom) undermined what could have been a sensational career.

[Controversial]

Bowe looked great against Holyfield but who else did he beat? Title defences against Ferguson and Dokes were scraping the barrel.

He looked good against Gonzalez. Sadly, I think lack of discipline and over eating ( building a kitchen into his bedroom) undermined what could have been a sensational career.

Yeah no doubt he had the physical tools and ability to do a lot more than he did, take Holyfield out the equation and it was a pretty average career. As you say he didn't have the discipline to dedicate himself to the sport. I know Gonzalez turned pro with high exceptions but he never really achieved anything, carefully matched to a title shot and then pretty much done nothing after that.

[SeanBrennan]

there's an article in this week's BN about Bowe. Only cost £300 to get him on Buncey's Boxing Hour!

Sadly, Bowe didn't leave the game with most of his money and brains intact.

a chaotic life from reading it. He briefly tried to join the marines and seemed to take his own family hostage at one point. CTE from the sounds of it which is sad whatever indiscretions he has made. Do you know of any decent biographies of him? Bunce's article is really good in BN this week.

I am sorry for hugely derailing this thread.

[jwfg]

So Bowe was amazing, even when got stopped in the Olympics and he was shot to pieces, because he was losing back to back fights against a guy Lewis dispatched in a round?

What is it with this type of antagonistic and weird rhetorical "funny" questioning. See it fairly regularly these days.

What's with it? Well, it's a counter to your blindly biased nonsense using some facts.

[big lennox]

I think one thing everyone can agree on is that, having seen Fury vs Ngannou, Lennox Lewis would have made short work of Fury. He would have absolutely blasted him into the middle of next week.

[big lennox]

Bowe looked great against Holyfield but who else did he beat? Title defences against Ferguson and Dokes were scraping the barrel.

He looked good against Gonzalez. Sadly, I think lack of discipline and over eating ( building a kitchen into his bedroom) undermined what could have been a sensational career.

Yeah no doubt he had the physical tools and ability to do a lot more than he did, take Holyfield out the equation and it was a pretty average career. As you say he didn't have the discipline to dedicate himself to the sport. I know Gonzalez turned pro with high exceptions but he never really achieved anything, carefully matched to a title shot and then pretty much done nothing after that.

That is true. Gonzalez seemed to be just following Bowe around, got turned over and then lost interest.

[SeanBrennan]

So Bowe was amazing, even when got stopped in the Olympics and he was shot to pieces, because he was losing back to back fights against a guy Lewis dispatched in a round?

What is it with this type of antagonistic and weird rhetorical "funny" questioning. See it fairly regularly these days.

What's with it? Well, it's a counter to your blindly biased nonsense using some facts.

I like jwfg's posts personally.

[BigDoofus]

I think one thing everyone can agree on is that, having seen Fury vs Ngannou, Lennox Lewis would have made short work of Fury. He would have absolutely blasted him into the middle of next week.

Fury v Ngannou was similar to Lewis v Mercer but so far he’s not had a performance similar to McCall or Rahman.

[The Gratest]

I think one thing everyone can agree on is that, having seen Fury vs Ngannou, Lennox Lewis would have made short work of Fury. He would have absolutely blasted him into the middle of next week.

Fury v Ngannou was similar to Lewis v Mercer but so far he’s not had a performance similar to McCall or Rahman.

That would be true, if Ngannou was a former Olympic Gold Medallist and former WBO HW Champion.

That's also true, as he ducked out of fighting a rematch against the last guy to beat him, David Price, after Price blasted out John McDermott in 90 seconds. Lewis avenged both his defeats and left no doubt, so you're correct, not similar at all.

[SeanBrennan]

I think one thing everyone can agree on is that, having seen Fury vs Ngannou, Lennox Lewis would have made short work of Fury. He would have absolutely blasted him into the middle of next week.

Fury v Ngannou was similar to Lewis v Mercer but so far he’s not had a performance similar to McCall or Rahman.

That would be true, if Ngannou was a former Olympic Gold Medallist and former WBO HW Champion.

That's also true, as he ducked out of fighting a rematch against the last guy to beat him, David Price, after Price blasted out John McDermott in 90 seconds. Lewis avenged both his defeats and left no doubt, so you're correct, not similar at all.

fair point Lewis avenged every loss. And destructively so. Albeit Mccall having a crack meltdown.

[The Gratest]

Fury v Ngannou was similar to Lewis v Mercer but so far he’s not had a performance similar to McCall or Rahman.

That would be true, if Ngannou was a former Olympic Gold Medallist and former WBO HW Champion.

That's also true, as he ducked out of fighting a rematch against the last guy to beat him, David Price, after Price blasted out John McDermott in 90 seconds. Lewis avenged both his defeats and left no doubt, so you're correct, not similar at all.

fair point Lewis avenged every loss. And destructively so. Albeit Mccall having a crack meltdown.

No way will Fury go near Usyk for a rematch. I mean, he'd have to actually fight him first before a rematch!

[si7dog7]

I think one thing everyone can agree on is that, having seen Fury vs Ngannou, Lennox Lewis would have made short work of Fury. He would have absolutely blasted him into the middle of next week.

Fury v Ngannou was similar to Lewis v Mercer but so far he’s not had a performance similar to McCall or Rahman.

Yeah. We can equate Ngannou as being on Ray Mercer’s level. Put the crack pipe down John ffs!!!
You’ve gone to another level of pi$$ take trolling here.

[SeanBrennan]

That would be true, if Ngannou was a former Olympic Gold Medallist and former WBO HW Champion.

That's also true, as he ducked out of fighting a rematch against the last guy to beat him, David Price, after Price blasted out John McDermott in 90 seconds. Lewis avenged both his defeats and left no doubt, so you're correct, not similar at all.

fair point Lewis avenged every loss. And destructively so. Albeit Mccall having a crack meltdown.

No way will Fury go near Usyk for a rematch. I mean, he'd have to actually fight him first before a rematch!

who knows, I hope they fight once at least though.

[The Gratest]

fair point Lewis avenged every loss. And destructively so. Albeit Mccall having a crack meltdown.

No way will Fury go near Usyk for a rematch. I mean, he'd have to actually fight him first before a rematch!

who knows, I hope they fight once at least though.

I think we all do Sean

[SeanBrennan]

No way will Fury go near Usyk for a rematch. I mean, he'd have to actually fight him first before a rematch!

who knows, I hope they fight once at least though.

I think we all do Sean

Amen to that

[dookus]

I think one thing everyone can agree on is that, having seen Fury vs Ngannou, Lennox Lewis would have made short work of Fury. He would have absolutely blasted him into the middle of next week.

Fury v Ngannou was similar to Lewis v Mercer but so far he’s not had a performance similar to McCall or Rahman.

[SeanBrennan]

I think one thing everyone can agree on is that, having seen Fury vs Ngannou, Lennox Lewis would have made short work of Fury. He would have absolutely blasted him into the middle of next week.

Fury v Ngannou was similar to Lewis v Mercer but so far he’s not had a performance similar to McCall or Rahman.

poor Mercer getting compared to a 0 - 1 boxer. He won an Olympic title. This is possibly the most stupid post since Spud last spoke.

[si7dog7]

Fury v Ngannou was similar to Lewis v Mercer but so far he’s not had a performance similar to McCall or Rahman.

poor Mercer getting compared to a 0 - 1 boxer. He won an Olympic title. This is possibly the most stupid post since Spud last spoke.

Agreed Sean
Truly hope Spuds doing ok though.
Had a few back and forths back in the SecondsOut days.
No matter what, the internet chat is bollox and Spud loves his boxing. I got respect for that.

[SeanBrennan]

poor Mercer getting compared to a 0 - 1 boxer. He won an Olympic title. This is possibly the most stupid post since Spud last spoke.

Agreed Sean
Truly hope Spuds doing ok though.
Had a few back and forths back in the SecondsOut days.
No matter what, the internet chat is bollox and Spud loves his boxing. I got respect for that.

I was just being silly, hope he's ok too.

[si7dog7]

poor Mercer getting compared to a 0 - 1 boxer. He won an Olympic title. This is possibly the most stupid post since Spud last spoke.

Agreed Sean
Truly hope Spuds doing ok though.
Had a few back and forths back in the SecondsOut days.
No matter what, the internet chat is bollox and Spud loves his boxing. I got respect for that.

I was just being silly, hope he's ok too.

I know mate

[SeanBrennan]

Agreed Sean
Truly hope Spuds doing ok though.
Had a few back and forths back in the SecondsOut days.
No matter what, the internet chat is bollox and Spud loves his boxing. I got respect for that.

I was just being silly, hope he's ok too.

I know mate

ah cool thanks mate.

[jtourettes]

Fury showing pictures of the blood stain on the headgear. My lady doth protest too much?

Getting day after traditional Greek wedding vibes

had to google this. bleugh.

Thing of the past now, was a bit of a worry when I asked my missus to marry me

[si7dog7]

I was just being silly, hope he's ok too.

I know mate

ah cool thanks mate.

At the end of the day we are all “friends”” here spieling on our love of boxing my friend.
We talk, call each other out (not like Big John) and it’s all good. Ex pros on here giving wise inside thoughts on what goes on.
It’s why Boxrec forum is right up there l.
Nearly as good as SecondsOut which was superb US and UK. Allegedly. “Allegedly” got it shut down.
Spud?

[SeanBrennan]

I know mate

ah cool thanks mate.

At the end of the day we are all “friends”” here spieling on our love of boxing my friend.
We talk, call each other out (not like Big John) and it’s all good. Ex pros on here giving wise inside thoughts on what goes on.
It’s why Boxrec forum is right up there l.
Nearly as good as SecondsOut which was superb US and UK. Allegedly. “Allegedly” got it shut down.
Spud?

brilliant mate, thank you and wise words to boot.

[TheLeprechaun]

So Bowe was amazing, even when got stopped in the Olympics and he was shot to pieces, because he was losing back to back fights against a guy Lewis dispatched in a round?

What is it with this type of antagonistic and weird rhetorical "funny" questioning. See it fairly regularly these days.

What's with it? Well, it's a counter to your blindly biased nonsense using some facts.

Whats biased in what I said?