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Flump wrote:Very interesting, I've never seen the film and every account I've read has Johansson flat out as the bell rings, including the interview I read with London in the Boxing Monthly from about 6/7 years ago, which is where the quote comes from.

I've heard Henry Cooper say in person that the break between rounds in the 'torn glove' fight with Ali was 4 minutes, where the film shows it was more like 10 seconds. I guess the old saying 'never let the truth get in the way of a good story' comes to mind.

raylawpc wrote:

Flump wrote:Very interesting, I've never seen the film and every account I've read has Johansson flat out as the bell rings, including the interview I read with London in the Boxing Monthly from about 6/7 years ago, which is where the quote comes from.

I've heard Henry Cooper say in person that the break between rounds in the 'torn glove' fight with Ali was 4 minutes, where the film shows it was more like 10 seconds. I guess the old saying 'never let the truth get in the way of a good story' comes to mind.

At the risk of incurring Granberry's wrath, I will report that Steve Lott did an extensive study of the video of the Cooper-Clay fight, and the break was 8 seconds.

Flump wrote:I've heard Henry Cooper say in person that the break between rounds in the 'torn glove' fight with Ali was 4 minutes, where the film shows it was more like 10 seconds. I guess the old saying 'never let the truth get in the way of a good story' comes to mind.

bennie wrote:

raylawpc wrote:
At the risk of incurring Granberry's wrath, I will report that Steve Lott did an extensive study of the video of the Cooper-Clay fight, and the break was 8 seconds.

So 68 seconds, a lifetime to a dazed, inexperienced man like Clay. Dundee did his job.

raylawpc wrote:

bennie wrote:

raylawpc wrote:
At the risk of incurring Granberry's wrath, I will report that Steve Lott did an extensive study of the video of the Cooper-Clay fight, and the break was 8 seconds.

So 68 seconds, a lifetime to a dazed, inexperienced man like Clay. Dundee did his job.

The only thing I'm disputing is the length of the delay. The whole idea that Clay had two to three extra minutes between rounds is just crap.

Even so, I've said before that I can recall a couple of times I'd like to have had an extra 8 seconds between rounds. I bet Frank or any experienced cornerman would tell you the same thing.

raylawpc wrote:I know of another fellow I hope you'll work to get inducted.

dagosd2000 wrote:Just to let you know,Mexican women have the edge on Spanish women. For looks(Que chulada es el maiz prieto) and temperment.(Just my opinion)These Spanish dames can sure fly off the handle. Keep posting those wonderfull shots of the banquet. You really captured the feel of the event. Wish I could have been there with you. Rog

kikibalt wrote:

raylawpc wrote:

kikibalt wrote:
Frankie Baltazar, my grandson Rocky and Art Frias

How tall is that grandson of yours, Frank? That's one big kid.

Rocky is 6'5, big boy for sure.