search wrote:WayoftheCass wrote:
Eh yeah but didn't Williams crucify Quintana in about 2 mins in the rematch? You seem to have conveniently left that out of your argument. Willaims has just dominated Winky Wright from start to finish in about every round. Even Hopkins 2 divisions above Winky's natural fighting weight couldn't do that.
I seem to remember PBF getting beat pretty soundly in the first Castillo fight and then winning a shocking decision. I believe that bout is now up on youtube. Watch it and look at Mayweather's face at the end of the 12th and tell me he was not a beaten man. But you could put that down to a bad night. Just like Williams had a bad night against Quintana. But holding up the first Quintana fight after what Williams did to him in the rematch is a pretty moot point imo.
Anyone can get caught cold mate. We never got to see if Williams had really learned his lesson and was a better boxer than Quintana. He caught him lovely and that was all she wrote. I'd like to see a rubber match and see what would happen. The fact is, Williams got HANDLED in the first fight, Quintana got KTFO in the second fight (caught cold). If Williams had outboxed Quintana for a few rounds and then knocked him out cold, you'd have a point.
It was an amazing performance against Winky, but Winky is no mayweather. I've seen Mayweather vs Castillo one and Floyd won the fight, to say he got "beat pretty soundly" is a very poor statement.
Mayweather would beat Williams easy.
You are entitled to your opinion. but if you think Mayweather beat castillo in their 1st fight you either A) Haven't seen it or b) Your opinion is at odds with the vast majority of people who did.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyjaojqkGmk
Every stat and expert analysis was on the side of Castillo. Its really a moot point because the controversy surrounding it was acknowledged at the time.
The 'poor statement' line made me chuckle. So because you disagree with me and indeed because you hold the opinion of the minority then my belief that Mayweather was soundly beaten that night its a 'poor statement'? Righto.
I also love the way that you have also dismissed Williams massacring Quintana as the latter getting 'caught cold'.
So Williams should have given Quintana a rubber match should he? You don't think he proved he was the better man in their rematch?
To say that Williams still hasn't proved his boxing abilities because he knocked Quintana out as opposed to outpointing him over the distance is astounding logic especially when you consider that he'd already outboxed Margarito over twelve quite convincingly and has since gone on to dominate a quality fighter like Winky.
To believe that PBF would defeat Williams is fine. Though considering the problems he had dealing with a faded fighter like ODLH's range I struggle to see how he'd win it easy but none the less. Like I said its a fair opinion.
But some of the argument's you've used such as complete revisionism of his 1st fight with Castillo and to believe that Williams simply caught Quintana cold is just insulting.
