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Re: Sonny Liston/filmed fights 1966-1970

Posted: 15 Sep 2015, 18:21
by Caractacus
Here is a link to some high-lights of Liston's comeback fight of July 1966 some 14 months after after the debacle in Lewiston Maine .
In it he looks really rusty ,almost like he couldnt hit the backside of a barn door with some of the punches he had thrown.
(unless he was trying to miss on purpose?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_unzUbJ7rU

Re: Sonny Liston/filmed fights 1966-1970

Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 12:41
by klompton
Sooo, i dont get it. You attack me for having this footage that you, in your ignorance, thought you discovered because i didnt post it online for free? You posted a link to youtube for a film someone else shot, some else converted, someone else found, someone else digitized, and someone else posted on youtube. What exactly do you want credit for? Lol.

Re: Sonny Liston/filmed fights 1966-1970

Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 14:12
by Caractacus
Here is Sonny Liston's third comeback fight vrs Dave Bailey
March-30-1967 Gothenburg Sweden( fom the AP Archives)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSoj_xRjOkM

Re: Sonny Liston/filmed fights 1966-1970

Posted: 12 Oct 2015, 02:12
by ironfish
Caractacus wrote:Here is a link to some high-lights of Liston's comeback fight of July 1966 some 14 months after after the debacle in Lewiston Maine .
In it he looks really rusty ,almost like he couldnt hit the backside of a barn door with some of the punches he had thrown.
(unless he was trying to miss on purpose?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_unzUbJ7rU
cool footage never seen this before thanks

Re: Sonny Liston/filmed fights 1966-1970

Posted: 12 Oct 2015, 06:39
by ironfish
Caractacus wrote:Here is Sonny Liston's third comeback fight vrs Dave Bailey
March-30-1967 Gothenburg Sweden( fom the AP Archives)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSoj_xRjOkM
awsome footage i didnt know this was around :TU:

Re: Sonny Liston/filmed fights 1966-1970

Posted: 12 Oct 2015, 11:14
by Caractacus
ironfish wrote:
Caractacus wrote:Here is a link to some high-lights of Liston's comeback fight of July 1966 some 14 months after after the debacle in Lewiston Maine .
In it he looks really rusty ,almost like he couldnt hit the backside of a barn door with some of the punches he had thrown.
(unless he was trying to miss on purpose?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_unzUbJ7rU
cool footage never seen this before thanks
Perhaps it was Gerhard Zech's southpaw stance that caused Liston to miss so many punches in that fight?
BTW What was Sonny Liston's record against southpaws anyway?

Re: Sonny Liston/filmed fights 1966-1970

Posted: 25 Mar 2026, 13:57
by Caractacus
this rare footage had just shown up about 6 months ago
November-1968
Monumental Bull Ring Ciudad ,Juarez Mexico

Re: Sonny Liston/filmed fights 1966-1970

Posted: 25 Mar 2026, 19:05
by goose 5
Thanks so much . I love that phase of Liston's career.

Re: Sonny Liston/filmed fights 1966-1970

Posted: 25 Mar 2026, 19:14
by Caractacus
But the more I watch it ,the "fakeier" it looks.
notice all the different film camera angles for a 8mm "home-made" film from the audience?
(unless it was televised in Mexico)
for some reason it sort of reminds me a lot of his fight with Eddie Machen.
( the way the one dude seems to be "wrassling" with Liston in the center of the ring-who does that ?
you don't suppose it could be "AI" manufactured do you ?
(Liston looks kinda really thin and "peppy" for a 36 years old (?) man in it if you were to arsk me)
just been wondering tho what would ole "Il Duce" say about it, if he's still around to see it (?)
-2010-

https://boxingforum24.com/threads/sonny ... co.278067/

Re: Sonny Liston/filmed fights 1966-1970

Posted: 26 Mar 2026, 12:22
by Caractacus
Brutu wrote: 10 Jul 2010, 03:31 That does look to be the first Liston vrs Billy Joiner fight
May.23.1968 at the Olympic Auditorium in Los Angeles
here at
3:12 seconds of this clip.
It looks like it was filmed with an amateur 8 mm camera
from the audience.
It matches photgraphs Ive seen of the fight.
Liston knocked Joiner down in the third round with a left hook and a short right
to Joiners head ,but Joiner got back up and slugged it out toe to toe.
the ref stoped the fight after Joiner went back to his corner
after the 7th round because he was too far behind on points .


At 3:12 seconds into the clip ? yeah, it sure does look like the one photograph of the Liston vrs Billy Joiner
fight that I've seen too.

Re: Sonny Liston/filmed fights 1966-1970

Posted: 26 Mar 2026, 16:01
by Caractacus
.here is a link to a ring action photograph from Liston vrs Joiner.
May-23-1968 at the Olympic Auditorium in Los Angeles.

https://books.google.com/books?id=q0nI6 ... g=PA109&dq

Re: Sonny Liston/filmed fights 1966-1970

Posted: 26 Mar 2026, 16:14
by Caractacus
45th pro fight Saturday July-6-1968 Cow Palace Daly City California.
(btw Martin Luther King jr had been killed just three months earlier(April 4th)
and Robert F. Kennedy (June 4th) just a month earlier , that may be why there is a sense of heaviness in the air)

Re: Sonny Liston/filmed fights 1966-1970

Posted: 27 Mar 2026, 15:03
by Caractacus
December-6-1969

Better quality footage of the Main Event !