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Autobarn wrote:

Datsue wrote:

Autobarn wrote:re froch. froch can't fight anyone with workrate or movement? funny, you use the world FIGHT. it looked to me that dirrell -the man with the movement - could neither fight nor box v froch. that running and those weak pea shooter punchers that stop short of target or simply touch the face isn't boxing. i

Inventing things makes your argument redundant, you do know that don't you? If they were such weak punches, why was Frochy cringing away from them & getting rattled by them?

A bit of hyperbole is all well & good, but I have finished talking to you as you seem divorced from consensus reality.

many of dirrell's shots were not great punches. often they stop slightly sort of the target or simply bounce off targte uselessly as he doesn't try to hit THROUGH the target. they are flashy movie style shots with not a great deal of practical use. in boxing you are taught to hit through the targte, not at the target. dirrell is pulling back becfore the punch can land. he could be in the wrong sport because he refuses to risk getting hit.

kingfinn wrote:

Autobarn wrote:re froch. froch can't fight anyone with workrate or movement? funny, you use the world FIGHT. it looked to me that dirrell -the man with the movement - could neither fight nor box v froch. that running and those weak pea shooter punchers that stop short of target or simply touch the face isn't boxing. it's a manufactured athlete terrifying himself through 12 jittery rounds.

you seldom see that level of negativity in world class boxing. it is a rarity, and i feel bad for froch, that his super 6 opener came vs such a horirble fighter.

can amir fight anyone with a punch? not long ago the Q was could he fight a domestic opponent who wasn't coming off a KO loss or moving up from 130...

Lol you talk some rubbish, you want to watch prize fighter level performances by the sounds of it. Dirrell clearly ran away form froch for the first 9 rounds but froch couldnt close him down (that doesnt exactly scream world class to me) and then when dirrell did decide to box he clearly beat dazzled and beat froch with ease. One more round like that and he would have won the fight.

Khan cant fight anyone with a punch hmm he knocked out quite a few punchers limond for a start.

You rarely see that type of fighting in world class fights hhmmmmm the name Floyd Mayweather Jr springs to mind, have you ever heard of him.

kingfinn wrote:

Autobarn wrote:

kingfinn wrote:I think what he said is right, Frochs got a big mouth and so has john murray, there the working mans champions and you just have to read some of the comments on this forum to see people hate khan because he's acheived something when murray hasnt. Maybe Khan should just smash up murray and shut his mouth for him. Unfortunatley we may have to wait for murray to become a world name, so the fight will probably take place in 2020 where some fighter have been replaced by robots and bionically enhanced women.

Same with Audley Harrison, the people in this country support the underdog and seem to hate the real champions or anyone who gets beaten at any point, if Calzaghe had been English rather than Welsh i bet he would have the same problem. The scots and the welsh always back their champions, and i remember when Calzaghe fought robin reed he got loads of flack from the english supporters.

that's it, let's wait for john murray and carl froch to "turn their backs on the UK" due to fan hatred and bitterness

don't go, lads! he din't mean it!


audley proved to be rubbish and amir was knocked out in a round on his PPV debut. you have a lot of faith?

Exaclty the opinion i would expect you to have. I noticed you missed out the bit about Harrison winning an olympic gold medal for his country and Khan winning a silver and then going on to take a world title.

Compared to froch who's beaten one good fighter and is likely to be not only beaten but completely schooled in his next fight and murray who beat? who? thaxton, a fighter who is not on the same level as prescott and has been nothing more than test fight for up and coming fighters for the last 3 years. Respect!

Autobarn wrote:

kingfinn wrote:

Autobarn wrote:re froch. froch can't fight anyone with workrate or movement? funny, you use the world FIGHT. it looked to me that dirrell -the man with the movement - could neither fight nor box v froch. that running and those weak pea shooter punchers that stop short of target or simply touch the face isn't boxing. it's a manufactured athlete terrifying himself through 12 jittery rounds.

you seldom see that level of negativity in world class boxing. it is a rarity, and i feel bad for froch, that his super 6 opener came vs such a horirble fighter.

can amir fight anyone with a punch? not long ago the Q was could he fight a domestic opponent who wasn't coming off a KO loss or moving up from 130...

Lol you talk some rubbish, you want to watch prize fighter level performances by the sounds of it. Dirrell clearly ran away form froch for the first 9 rounds but froch couldnt close him down (that doesnt exactly scream world class to me) and then when dirrell did decide to box he clearly beat dazzled and beat froch with ease. One more round like that and he would have won the fight.

Khan cant fight anyone with a punch hmm he knocked out quite a few punchers limond for a start.

You rarely see that type of fighting in world class fights hhmmmmm the name Floyd Mayweather Jr springs to mind, have you ever heard of him.

floyd mayweather makes damn sure he doesn't take hard shots but he doesn't fight like THAT. mayweather could synthesise punching and movement - look at the corrales fight. dirrell is trying to be RJJ and we saw the last guy who tried to do that - derek gainer - who stank out big fights and ended his career answering boxingtalk's mailbag - "you read it here first!"

what you're doing is wrong. you are saying i don't like skilled boxing because i didn't appreciate the running of dirrell. dirrell had no confidence in his own shots. he was out of range to avoid shots but he was too far back to land anything of consequence himself. it was awful watchingt his. froch is good enough to get his licks in - see pascal, see taylor - even if it took him til the end. would i have preferred froch to cut ring down with utmost efficiency and get to dirrell? yes of course. froch lacks the variety or speed to do this. dirrell signed the stalemate, decison went against him, got what he deserved.

froch has taken some hard shots from taylor and pascal, but has never been blasted out, as khan was.

murray will deliver, when he gets his chance.

LIMOND, PUNCHER. hohohohoho, keep it up, boyo! grand, lad!

jesus kingfinn you do really bum khan . atleast froch actually is worth watching.plus he's beaten 1 good fighter? are you mad? dirrell..pascal.taylor theres 3 good un's right there. who has khan fought? kotelnik= european level at best 35 year old blown up lightweight barrera who he beat on cuts next you wil say salita is a good fighter.

kingfinn wrote:

jesus kingfinn you do really bum khan . atleast froch actually is worth watching.plus he's beaten 1 good fighter? are you mad? dirrell..pascal.taylor theres 3 good un's right there. who has khan fought? kotelnik= european level at best 35 year old blown up lightweight barrera who he beat on cuts next you wil say salita is a good fighter.

kotelnik = european level at best. Obviously since he held the world title lol

Froch is far more boring to watch than khan, khan has skills and speed what does froch have thats entertaining? His chin, woohooo!

tyson wrote:

teddy007 wrote:

G0mez wrote:In other words,

He has already planned to leave the UK anyway, but in a clever marketing manoeuvre he will endeavour to tarnish John Murray (a guy he wont fight) and do Wazza a favour by putting some more boot into Froch.

Well Amir,

In the last two years you have been banned for 40 odd days for driving your super-charged Range Rover at 150+ MPH and have also knocked over an maimed an old guy using a pelican crossing.

Then the other week you crashed into a cyclist :-




In the meantime everyone from Bunce to the whole of internet land declared your fight with the hand-picked weakest 140lb champion in Kotlenik a bore and that it goes without saying your glass chin was utterly exposed by the unheralded Breidis Prescott.

Whilst Breidis still lives in slum, you live in an apartment block with P-diddy and Snoop Dogg.

And dont get me started on your treatment and subsequent gagging order on Oliver Harrison, a damn good trainer who deserved better than that.

Your a turd.

Good post and totally agree.

Nail on the head . He would rather be ran out of town then stay and fight John Murray looks like Amir or his Team are worried about fighting him after all otherwise he would demand the fight be made.

gemmell wrote:

kingfinn wrote:

jesus kingfinn you do really bum khan . atleast froch actually is worth watching.plus he's beaten 1 good fighter? are you mad? dirrell..pascal.taylor theres 3 good un's right there. who has khan fought? kotelnik= european level at best 35 year old blown up lightweight barrera who he beat on cuts next you wil say salita is a good fighter.

kotelnik = european level at best. Obviously since he held the world title lol

Froch is far more boring to watch than khan, khan has skills and speed what does froch have thats entertaining? His chin, woohooo!

yeh he beat gavin rees to become champ just because he was champ makes him world class?? he did well to beat maidana who is a good puncher but a shocking boxer

kingfinn wrote:


Frochs a clown and the most overated fighter in the UK, and murray is just trying to make a career for himself off khans back.

If murray spent as much time trying to get some decent fights as he does complaining that olympic and world champion amir khan hasnt wasted his time knocking him out, then he might get himself on the world stage and finally earn the chance to get in the ring with khan.

The problem is the english public like to blame there problems on everyone else getting it easier.. People on the council estates complain the polish are taking there jobs and what not. They could just get off their arses work hard, train hard and search for a job, but they would rather sit at home blaming their lives on others. Thats why murray is supported, because he sitts about complaining he's hard done by.

Thats how murray is, boo hoo khan doesnt have to fight for no money in small halls because hes got a silver medal and worldwide interest, poor me. He should be saying im going to smash up every fighter i meet, take the european title and then take a world title, then when ive got that it might be lucrative for Khan to fight me. Not khan should fight me for pennies when he could be earning millions and put his career on the line in a fight noone outside england cares about just so i might get on the world stage for it.

And then people complain that Khan is taking the easy route, when murray is trying to do the same thing but cant.

opticald wrote:Autobarn simply overrates pressure fighters and has something against skilled boxers who use intelligence and skill to hit and not get hit. Dirrell was landing more punches and if not for a bogus judge scoring rounds the wrong way (which we all surely agree on), Dirrell would have technically been declared winner of the fight. Dirrell probably did win the fight for me. No I didn't enjoy watching him, but you don't score on that basis. You go round by round and dirrell won more. It was close though, but dirrell probably nicked it. The best Froch should have gotten was a draw.

opticald wrote:Autobarn simply overrates pressure fighters and has something against skilled boxers who use intelligence and skill to hit and not get hit. Dirrell was landing more punches and if not for a bogus judge scoring rounds the wrong way (which we all surely agree on), Dirrell would have technically been declared winner of the fight. Dirrell probably did win the fight for me. No I didn't enjoy watching him, but you don't score on that basis. You go round by round and dirrell won more. It was close though, but dirrell probably nicked it. The best Froch should have gotten was a draw.

Autobarn wrote:

opticald wrote:Autobarn simply overrates pressure fighters and has something against skilled boxers who use intelligence and skill to hit and not get hit. Dirrell was landing more punches and if not for a bogus judge scoring rounds the wrong way (which we all surely agree on), Dirrell would have technically been declared winner of the fight. Dirrell probably did win the fight for me. No I didn't enjoy watching him, but you don't score on that basis. You go round by round and dirrell won more. It was close though, but dirrell probably nicked it. The best Froch should have gotten was a draw.

dirrell ran for his life and probably wet himself. he was ridiculous. the judges did not go for him, at least 2 of them didn't. ppl are split on the fight. i can't understand why ppl can't see dirrell for the derrick gainer clone he is. he was disgraced after the curtis stephens fight but a few old women are coming to his defence on here. perhaps because he fights like a washerwoman (with basketball & gymnastic skills)? some of you lot were bang out of order with buncey last week and i hope he gets hold of all of yers bollocks.

ourkid1984 wrote: If Khan really wants to win over the British public then he should fight Murray, and beat him easy. He shouldn't of treated McCool like he did and he shouldn't be trying to fool boxing fans by trying to suggest that he's had a tough time of it.

terminator wrote:

ourkid1984 wrote: If Khan really wants to win over the British public then he should fight Murray, and beat him easy. He shouldn't of treated McCool like he did and he shouldn't be trying to fool boxing fans by trying to suggest that he's had a tough time of it.

I don't think the british public have heard of John Murray