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Re: Haye vs Ruiz - Surely it doesn't happen
Posted: 10 Nov 2009, 09:42
by doctorboxing
Of course it will happen. That belt and title means a lot to Haye, he will not vacate it. He wants to have the strap so fighting v a Klit can be billed as a unification match.
Re: Haye vs Ruiz - Surely it doesn't happen
Posted: 10 Nov 2009, 09:55
by jamesmcdonnell
Makes sense for Haye - Ruiz is at least a former world champion. A chance for a hometown fight which will build his profile further.
Like I said though, needs to look spectacular, another dull fight won't help his PPV status.
Re: Haye vs Ruiz - Surely it doesn't happen
Posted: 10 Nov 2009, 10:31
by Autobarn
hitman_hatton1 wrote:it'll happen i think.
they need a hometown payday to put some money in the coffers.
also for haye and booth the Promoters, they need to promote a big bill. one involving haye, for a heavyweight title, is a bigger bill than anything else in britain, surely. it's not a global superfight, but it'll do very nicely in the context of britain's boxing industry.
Re: HAYE v RUIZ
Posted: 10 Nov 2009, 10:56
by Coco
Don King is the most likely person to be promoting the fight
Re: HAYE v RUIZ
Posted: 10 Nov 2009, 11:10
by jamesmcdonnell
Coco wrote:Don King is the most likely person to be promoting the fight
If team Haye have the resources at their disposal they will promote it themseves. If they don't, then being a mandatory - it would go to purse bids.
I think that Haye and Booth will have the wherewithall to put together a fight in London.
Only think is, I'm not sure about the 02 as a boxing venue - is it too much of a pain to get to, or was it just that the Barrett fight wasn't all that appealing?
Re: HAYE v RUIZ
Posted: 10 Nov 2009, 11:15
by Autobarn
can't see haye going with any of the big promoters, risking signing his career away, risking relinquishing control, risking the lawsuits when you want to break free. just look at the trouble hatton and calzaghe had leaving warren, the aggro that the K2s, jc gomez and dzinziruk are having jilting universum, and all the troubles DKP fighters have had...with haye being promoter as well, can't see him going with king. GBP CEO schaeffer was at the valuev fight, and he would be haye's easiest route onto HBO for the massive paydays, i reckon, when it is time. dk has a piece of ruiz. is there any more to it than just that?
Re: HAYE v RUIZ
Posted: 10 Nov 2009, 11:17
by J
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Coco wrote:Don King is the most likely person to be promoting the fight
If team Haye have the resources at their disposal they will promote it themseves. If they don't, then being a mandatory - it would go to purse bids.
I think that Haye and Booth will have the wherewithall to put together a fight in London.
Only think is, I'm not sure about the 02 as a boxing venue - is it too much of a pain to get to, or was it just that the Barrett fight wasn't all that appealing?
its ac*nt of aplace to get to if tubes have stopped.
took me and my bro 3 hours to get to central london after haye enzo. was 6 am.
Re: HAYE v RUIZ
Posted: 10 Nov 2009, 12:06
by jamesmcdonnell
J wrote:jamesmcdonnell wrote:Coco wrote:Don King is the most likely person to be promoting the fight
If team Haye have the resources at their disposal they will promote it themseves. If they don't, then being a mandatory - it would go to purse bids.
I think that Haye and Booth will have the wherewithall to put together a fight in London.
Only think is, I'm not sure about the 02 as a boxing venue - is it too much of a pain to get to, or was it just that the Barrett fight wasn't all that appealing?
its ac*nt of aplace to get to if tubes have stopped.
took me and my bro 3 hours to get to central london after haye enzo. was 6 am.
Yeah without public transport, the greenwich peninsula might as well be deepest patagonia, it's miles from anywhere. I walked back for ages from there once because there were no buses coming - in the end had to get a bloody expensive cab home.
Imagine the bedlam with 15,000 people coming out and no tubes!
The fight could well be staged late too.
Re: HAYE v RUIZ
Posted: 10 Nov 2009, 12:14
by black panther
Much parking round there?
Re: HAYE v RUIZ
Posted: 10 Nov 2009, 12:24
by Shirow
I like this fight for the same reasons as others. Chance for a homecoming & spectacular KO. I hope they see this as the gimme it really is and great PR opportunity. It might mean taking lower money as a trade off for the publicity but they should try and get it on a terrestrial channel. Then once Ruiz is out of the way they can write their own Sky PPV cheque and cash out against a Klitchsko.
Re: Haye vs Ruiz - Surely it doesn't happen
Posted: 10 Nov 2009, 16:09
by ERIC GUY
I
still think Booth will not want to hang about risking the big pot. Who has ever benefited from fighting John Ruiz?
Roy jones jnr.................
Re: HAYE v RUIZ
Posted: 10 Nov 2009, 16:54
by DavidPayne
I think this will be a barn-storming fight.
Ruiz is much maligned, but he's never ducked a challenge. I spoke to him last week and he's as good as gold in conversation as they say nearer the Thames.
John Ruiz v David Haye will be a thriller
Re: HAYE v RUIZ
Posted: 10 Nov 2009, 17:01
by Crease
I used to like Ruiz as a boxer (like 4-5 years ago)... At the time he was one of my favourite Heavyweights...
But, there's a good chance that he will get hurt if he fights Haye...

Re: HAYE v RUIZ
Posted: 10 Nov 2009, 18:51
by Wax On
I can only imagine what Haye would be saying if one of the Klit brothers fought Ruiz.....why are they bothering with an inactive 38 year old, who got beat by a Middleweight back in the day blah blah blah
It will be interesting to see if he sticks to his "I'll go after the best" comments now he actually has a title and has become such a draw.
If I were him I'd fight Ruiz, Harrison........anyone but the Klits whilst he can make a few million, without much risk, but he'll certainly be a bit of a hypocrite if he takes this route!!
Re: HAYE v RUIZ
Posted: 10 Nov 2009, 21:55
by Coco
Wax On wrote:I can only imagine what Haye would be saying if one of the Klit brothers fought Ruiz.....why are they bothering with an inactive 38 year old, who got beat by a Middleweight back in the day blah blah blah
It will be interesting to see if he sticks to his "I'll go after the best" comments now he actually has a title and has become such a draw.
If I were him I'd fight Ruiz, Harrison........anyone but the Klits whilst he can make a few million, without much risk, but he'll certainly be a bit of a hypocrite if he takes this route!!
If Haye has any sense he will take a couple of gimme's and make a few easy million. He deserves it after doing everything the hard way. However I think if he has his own way(which may be difficult politically) he will chase the big fights and the glory rather than pieces of silver.
Re: HAYE v RUIZ
Posted: 11 Nov 2009, 04:38
by Carbo
DavidPayne wrote:I think this will be a barn-storming fight.
Ruiz is much maligned, but he's never ducked a challenge. I spoke to him last week and he's as good as gold in conversation as they say nearer the Thames.
John Ruiz v David Haye will be a thriller
As I was going through this thread I was waiting, holding my breath so long my lips were turning blue, for Payne's salivating proselytizing of the Quiet Man.
Brilliant.
Great article, by the way. People really ought to follow that link. Better than most of t'stuff thee reads on t'so-called 'official' boxing sites.
Re: HAYE v RUIZ
Posted: 11 Nov 2009, 05:43
by DavidPayne
Hehe.
So its me and Ruiz, Dooley and Taylor - Strictly Come Dancing wont know whats hit it next year.
Re: HAYE v RUIZ
Posted: 11 Nov 2009, 05:50
by black panther
Thanks for that David, enjoyed that.
But who is this middleweight who has the same name as Ruiz?
DavidPayne wrote:"overcame the humiliation of defeats to former middleweights James Toney and John Ruiz"

Re: HAYE v RUIZ
Posted: 11 Nov 2009, 05:59
by leforge
The fight will be on box office has is ppv now, there no point fighting on normal tv for lower money. If he were to lose that would be a big blow financially!
Re: HAYE v RUIZ
Posted: 11 Nov 2009, 06:37
by DavidPayne
black panther wrote:Thanks for that David, enjoyed that. :TU:
But who is this middleweight who has the same name as Ruiz?
DavidPayne wrote:"overcame the humiliation of defeats to former middleweights James Toney and John Ruiz"
:lol: :TU:
Black Panther, you weren't the first. Thanks. I have rectified the fkk up. Obviously distracted at that point!
Re: HAYE v RUIZ
Posted: 11 Nov 2009, 06:38
by black panther
DavidPayne wrote:black panther wrote:Thanks for that David, enjoyed that.
But who is this middleweight who has the same name as Ruiz?
DavidPayne wrote:"overcame the humiliation of defeats to former middleweights James Toney and John Ruiz"

Black Panther, you weren't the first. Thanks. I have rectified the fkk up. Obviously distracted at that point!
;;-)
Re: HAYE v RUIZ
Posted: 11 Nov 2009, 10:11
by SnoopyLoopy
lol at people thinking Ruiz is a pushover for Haye
Re: HAYE v RUIZ
Posted: 11 Nov 2009, 12:13
by Flump
I think Haye can look good in this fight, he won't be there to clutch and hug for Ruiz like say Rahman and Valuev were, and I would imagine Haye will wind Ruiz up so much before the fight about his holding that Ruiz will actually come out and fight.
Re: HAYE v RUIZ
Posted: 12 Nov 2009, 10:49
by Carbo
black panther wrote:Thanks for that David, enjoyed that.
But who is this middleweight who has the same name as Ruiz?
DavidPayne wrote:"overcame the humiliation of defeats to former middleweights James Toney and John Ruiz"

Obviously, the Middleweight with the same name as John Ruiz is John Ruiz, isn't it? It's only logical.
Meantime, as David said in the article, Ruiz is capable, and if Haye gets into bombs away mode, or feels under too much pressure to look impressive, it could be an interesting night.