BoxRec

TerribleTerry wrote:

Des1 wrote:Yes Georgie Smith and Richard Evatt, both Matchroom fighters who trained at Matchroom's gym in Romford. Evatt was a very hard puncher which made some over look his actual boxing skills. They both loved the night life and a booze a bit to much and Evatt seemed to enjoy knocking out doormen as much as boxers and the bigger they was the better.
If Evatt was more dedicated Im sure he would have gone a long way, his ill discipline started when his licence was put on hold for about a year because of a query on his brain scan.

Dean Pithie is another Cov fighter who allegedly loved the booze and coke a bit too much. Good fighter though.

hurlock wrote: paul hodkinson was dedicated, but turnt into a scag head.

Bomber 1 wrote: This guy is a hell of a fighter too..Emmanuel Augustus, Had all the skills and ability but I hear he just loved the drink too much :(

WildWaylon wrote:Loads of names spring to mind, what about the Booth brothers? So many sportsmen spoil their careers through lack of dedication. They have bags of talent but cant resist lifes temptations.

princess wrote:Dean Francis

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stujones wrote:There was that George Smith also.

Good call.

I used to be a big fan of his.

He was blessed with phenomenal power.

Some of the top HWs of the 80s could fall into this category; namely Tim Witherspoon, Pinklon Thomas & Tony Tucker.

Roberto Duran, blew up to over 200 lb between the first and second fights with leonard, which is why he was shitting his pants between rounds in the 2nd fight

ApolloCreed wrote:

Some of the top HWs of the 80s could fall into this category; namely Tim Witherspoon, Pinklon Thomas & Tony Tucker.

I love the quotes from Pinklon Thomas at the press conference before the Tyson fight.

PT (to Mike Tyson): I'm goin' use my jab to snatch that gold right out yo mouth.
Tyson (back to Thomas): Suck my d_ick, Pink.

Meanwhile:

Roberto Duran, blew up to over 200 lb between the first and second fights with leonard, which is why he was shitting his pants between rounds in the 2nd fight

Literally?

Coco wrote:

ApolloCreed wrote:

Some of the top HWs of the 80s could fall into this category; namely Tim Witherspoon, Pinklon Thomas & Tony Tucker.

I love the quotes from Pinklon Thomas at the press conference before the Tyson fight.

PT (to Mike Tyson): I'm goin' use my jab to snatch that gold right out yo mouth.
Tyson (back to Thomas): Suck my d_ick, Pink.

Meanwhile:

Roberto Duran, blew up to over 200 lb between the first and second fights with leonard, which is why he was shitting his pants between rounds in the 2nd fight

Literally?

I've heard talk before that the reason he quit was because he needed the toilet!

mrrocco wrote:This is a good thread - and there are plenty of candidates.

One thing to remember with the analogy - yes, Best pissed his potential up the wall but still achieved a lot, if he was a 'normal' player. nBest was a player that was linked in talent to Pele, Maradona.

So the thread title would imply that the boxer should have achieved a lot, but not nearly as much as he could've.

So I thought of Tony Ayala and Danny Costello, but neither actually achieved much in pro boxing (although Ayala was I think number 1 contender.)

I would suggest Tyson as the best example. At one time it was like he could never be beaten.

Tommy Morrison would be a good choice, but never had the equivalent 'world's greatest' talent that Best had. But he had talent to make serious money.....

mrrocco wrote:This is a good thread - and there are plenty of candidates.

One thing to remember with the analogy - yes, Best pissed his potential up the wall but still achieved a lot, if he was a 'normal' player. nBest was a player that was linked in talent to Pele, Maradona.

So the thread title would imply that the boxer should have achieved a lot, but not nearly as much as he could've.

So I thought of Tony Ayala and Danny Costello, but neither actually achieved much in pro boxing (although Ayala was I think number 1 contender.)

I would suggest Tyson as the best example. At one time it was like he could never be beaten.

Tommy Morrison would be a good choice, but never had the equivalent 'world's greatest' talent that Best had. But he had talent to make serious money.....

mickey1975 wrote:

mrrocco wrote:This is a good thread - and there are plenty of candidates.

One thing to remember with the analogy - yes, Best pissed his potential up the wall but still achieved a lot, if he was a 'normal' player. nBest was a player that was linked in talent to Pele, Maradona.

So the thread title would imply that the boxer should have achieved a lot, but not nearly as much as he could've.

So I thought of Tony Ayala and Danny Costello, but neither actually achieved much in pro boxing (although Ayala was I think number 1 contender.)

I would suggest Tyson as the best example. At one time it was like he could never be beaten.

Tommy Morrison would be a good choice, but never had the equivalent 'world's greatest' talent that Best had. But he had talent to make serious money.....

Exactly.Best went down as one of the all time greats DESPITE his problems.Some of the names on here have been suggested simply because they had a problem.To be compared to George,they must still have achieved an awful lot,p4p no1,all time great?Only Tyson springs to mind.Acheived everything,but could have done so much more

This guy is a hell of a fighter too..Emmanuel Augustus, Had all the skills and ability but I hear he just loved the drink too much

hurlock wrote:
paul hodkinson was dedicated, but turnt into a scag head.