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Re: Angelo Hyder on Green's options.

Posted: 08 Dec 2009, 01:07
by Brute
Autobarn wrote:
Brute wrote:
ben k wrote:Green VS Adamek is a 50/50 fight at 180 pounds. Briggs and Green are very evenly matched skill wise. Adamek VS Briggs were even fights that could have gone either way. Briggs hurt Adamek in there fights and Green hits harder than Briggs IMO.
Adamek weighed 214 in his last fight. He is not a Cruiserweight anymore.
brute - do you not want adamek to beat green, or something?

adamek is still the cruiserweight champ, and is open to any moderately big fight down at cruiser.

adamek was at a low weight for the golota fight, giving him speed, AND allowing him to move back down in weight if the opportunity arises.

and: aren't holyfield and haye - whom green and team are open to fighting - bigger heavyweights than adamek?
I am not talking about Angelo's ideas. Holyfield is over the hill and Haye is WBA heavyweight Champion. Adamek was a stone over cruiserweight limit when he beat Golota and I am sure he will increase his weight now that he has that under his belt. Heavyweights get the big pay packets.

Re: Angelo Hyder on Green's options.

Posted: 08 Dec 2009, 08:21
by Autobarn
sure, but he says he can come back down for a big fight.

and if he came down he might weaken himself enough for green to have a serious chance of winning.

the only problem would be convincing showtime to show it as a main event or HBO to put it on a big fight undercard. adamek is after the american TV money. a really good fight like adamek-green could be one to bring the money in. i don't think he'll get big TV money at heavyweight until he fights a big name, and this would be late 2010 or even 2011.

Re: Angelo Hyder on Green's options.

Posted: 08 Dec 2009, 17:56
by Brute
Adamek relinquished his IBF belt in October before the Golota fight.

Cruiserweights are what the late Nat Fleischer used to call "orphans of the storm." There is not the money in the division there is at more popular divisions.

Re: Angelo Hyder on Green's options.

Posted: 15 Dec 2009, 08:53
by GM #1
bollox your comments are just that- bollox.
hopkins is a massive fight and beat him green becomes australia's greatest ever.
even fenech never beat a current op 3 p4p. forget age or are you gonna tell me the experts are wrong having bhop at #3?

Re: Angelo Hyder on Green's options.

Posted: 15 Dec 2009, 17:21
by Marlin
Roy Jones Jr is already the biggest W on any Australians record.

Re: Angelo Hyder on Green's options.

Posted: 16 Dec 2009, 04:45
by bollox
Autobarn wrote:sure, but he says he can come back down for a big fight.

and if he came down he might weaken himself enough for green to have a serious chance of winning.

the only problem would be convincing showtime to show it as a main event or HBO to put it on a big fight undercard. adamek is after the american TV money. a really good fight like adamek-green could be one to bring the money in. i don't think he'll get big TV money at heavyweight until he fights a big name, and this would be late 2010 or even 2011.
I can't see much point in having a win over a weakened opponent

Re: Angelo Hyder on Green's options.

Posted: 16 Dec 2009, 21:35
by buster007
if it was gunna pay u millions of $$$ u would not fight huh?

Re: Angelo Hyder on Green's options.

Posted: 16 Dec 2009, 22:20
by Soundkamp
buster007 wrote:if it was gunna pay u millions of $$$ u would not fight huh?
:OhYes:

Re: Angelo Hyder on Green's options.

Posted: 17 Dec 2009, 00:44
by Brute
Marlin wrote:Roy Jones Jr is already the biggest W on any Australians record.
How about Fighting Harada? Was undisputed Flyweight and Bantamweight champion and two Australians (Rose and Famechon) beat him?

Ron Richards beat Gus Lesnevich, Dave Sands beat Bobo Olsen twice.

Re: Angelo Hyder on Green's options.

Posted: 17 Dec 2009, 00:57
by Marlin
Roy Jones Jr was the fighter of the decade (90's), undisputed p4p number one, he is an eight time world champion, winning Titles from Middleweight to Heavyweight and will go down as one of the true all time greats. :OhYes:

Re: Angelo Hyder on Green's options.

Posted: 19 Dec 2009, 04:05
by The Raw Prawn
Brute wrote:
Marlin wrote:Roy Jones Jr is already the biggest W on any Australians record.
How about Fighting Harada? Was undisputed Flyweight and Bantamweight champion and two Australians (Rose and Famechon) beat him?

Ron Richards beat Gus Lesnevich, Dave Sands beat Bobo Olsen twice.
Tony Mundine [ the real one ] beat Emille Griffith in Paris Nov 1973 UD over 12 rds.
Five months prior Griffith had fought Monzon for the MW title losing on points over 15 rds.
Griffith went on to fight another 18 times after the Mundine bout.
Some might say Griffith was past his best. With Jones everyone knows it. [ I'm a RJJ fan ]

Re: Angelo Hyder on Green's options.

Posted: 04 Jan 2010, 05:58
by Autobarn
bollox wrote:
Autobarn wrote:sure, but he says he can come back down for a big fight.

and if he came down he might weaken himself enough for green to have a serious chance of winning.

the only problem would be convincing showtime to show it as a main event or HBO to put it on a big fight undercard. adamek is after the american TV money. a really good fight like adamek-green could be one to bring the money in. i don't think he'll get big TV money at heavyweight until he fights a big name, and this would be late 2010 or even 2011.
I can't see much point in having a win over a weakened opponent
the money and the championship. for instance look at how pac - a massive name - is able to get the advantage over bigger men.

anyway, can't believe this thread has carried on. because now green may have found his big fight - hopkins. and i hope green wins, makes it a hatton-tszyu or a peden-campbell 2 type of fight...and adamek has his plan, estrada and arreola, which will bring in the US TV and earn him a heavyweight title shot.

green-hopkins and adamek-arreola are not confirmed. but they are definitely fights that "make sense", and i hope they happen. hopefully both green and adamek - massive in their own countries - get some of that yank money and yank exposure.