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Re: Claude Abrams?
Posted: 21 Dec 2009, 16:07
by FLINT ISLAND
End of a era,
Good work Claude - I enjoyed Boxing News and every friday was a treat to get the new issue - its the trade paper
Thanks for all the good work - and for publishing some of my contributing letters in Boxing News
Good luck for the future

Re: Claude Abrams?
Posted: 21 Dec 2009, 16:37
by Adamj1987
always liked claude, he wasnt my fave boxing journalist but far from the worst
good luck to him
bet bennie is happy
Re: Claude Abrams?
Posted: 21 Dec 2009, 19:27
by steve689
Maybe Bennie could make a shock return to the fold.
Re: Claude Abrams?
Posted: 21 Dec 2009, 19:40
by tonyevs
Claude is a very good caller of fights. maybe he does side with the favourite .. then again how often does the favourite lose?
But it wasn`t who he called - rather, he often got the rounds correct.
Didn`t he recently tip Ward to beat Kessler .. and gave two options on the Khan Salita match-up .. one a clear pts win to Khan and a quick blow-out for Khan .. pretty good I thought
My critism was also that he didn`t mention too much bad publicity regarding Warrun .. the ripping off of calzaghe being the most recent.
Re: Claude Abrams?
Posted: 22 Dec 2009, 01:32
by veriton
danny flexen picked ward to beat kessler
Re: Claude Abrams?
Posted: 22 Dec 2009, 01:56
by oliverfennell
steve689 wrote:Maybe Bennie could make a shock return to the fold.
They couldn't afford him.
Re: Claude Abrams?
Posted: 22 Dec 2009, 05:43
by Deserter
telboy66 wrote:Was this an earlier post of your own or someone else's opinion for as you can see from the other posts on this subject the majority would seem to be more than happy with the way Claude has run the ship myself included
It was an earlier post of my own, but it was part of a five-page thread where other posters clearly had similar sentiments. Much like they did when Claude failed to address the hypocrisy of Hatton claiming he was fighting Lazcano for the fans but it being a PPV bill, or when he failed to cover Warren's dubious actions to prevent Calzaghe claiming the monies he was awarded in court.
Anyway, regardless of that, I fail to understand your point as earlier in the thread you claimed I'm entitled to my opinion, yet your above comment infers that I should change it purely because it's a minority voice on this particular thread.
I've got no problem with anyone such as yourself being perfectly happy with Claude's tenure and respect that position, but I'd expect the same courtesy to be extended to my stance, particularly given my ability to validate it with tangible examples rather than it being motivated by any personal dislike or a similarly subjective issue.
Re: Claude Abrams?
Posted: 22 Dec 2009, 10:33
by telboy66
Deserter wrote:telboy66 wrote:Was this an earlier post of your own or someone else's opinion for as you can see from the other posts on this subject the majority would seem to be more than happy with the way Claude has run the ship myself included
It was an earlier post of my own, but it was part of a five-page thread where other posters clearly had similar sentiments. Much like they did when Claude failed to address the hypocrisy of Hatton claiming he was fighting Lazcano for the fans but it being a PPV bill, or when he failed to cover Warren's dubious actions to prevent Calzaghe claiming the monies he was awarded in court.
Anyway, regardless of that, I fail to understand your point as earlier in the thread you claimed I'm entitled to my opinion, yet your above comment infers that I should change it purely because it's a minority voice on this particular thread.
I've got no problem with anyone such as yourself being perfectly happy with Claude's tenure and respect that position, but I'd expect the same courtesy to be extended to my stance, particularly given my ability to validate it with tangible examples rather than it being motivated by any personal dislike or a similarly subjective issue.
Not at all mate i would not deny you the right of opinion & would not expect you to change it just to fall in line, I was just pointing out that it did vary from the rest of us that's all as is shown but the majority of posts,the longer people keep posting on this thread it may well swing to your view & by the same token I won't change my opinion
Re: Claude Abrams?
Posted: 22 Dec 2009, 11:16
by Deserter
telboy66 wrote:Not at all mate i would not deny you the right of opinion & would not expect you to change it just to fall in line, I was just pointing out that it did vary from the rest of us that's all as is shown but the majority of posts,the longer people keep posting on this thread it may well swing to your view & by the same token I won't change my opinion
That's fair dos fella. As I said earlier, I wouldn't want my bringing up of those issues to overshadow the fact that he also did a lot of good work as editor, which is why I can recognise there will be those who champion him. To use a crude analogy it's much like football management in that it's actually rare that a manager is either brilliant or truly awful, there are normally far more shades of grey and opinions on that manager will inevitably be based on a fan's preferences re. style of play, type of players used etc.
Most importantly, regardless of what I think about him in a professional capacity, it's clear from those who actually know him that he's a decent enough guy who loves the sport so I genuinely wish him all the best in whatever he chooses to do

Re: Claude Abrams?
Posted: 22 Dec 2009, 16:24
by harrygreb
nice post,sir
Re: Claude Abrams?
Posted: 23 Dec 2009, 10:53
by DG.
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And after years of sodomy with various 4 legged animals the wish finally came true.
Living life life of a nutcase - great
Not caring about anything- great
Finally paying for sex with a woman, Priceless.
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