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For crying out loud, leave Andre alone- he fought a BRILLIANT fight against one of the World's best.

whicker wrote:For crying out loud, leave Andre alone- he fought a BRILLIANT fight against one of the World's best.

Then kinda spoilt it all by doing an impression of someone with brain damage...

CheckHook wrote:

whicker wrote:For crying out loud, leave Andre alone- he fought a BRILLIANT fight against one of the World's best.

Then kinda spoilt it all by doing an impression of someone with brain damage...

Nonsense.

whicker wrote:For crying out loud, leave Andre alone- he fought a BRILLIANT fight against one of the World's best.

i agree with you, lets give dirrell some praise, its all about using and sticking to your gameplan to find a way to win (a la haye v monster) the obvious way to beat abraham, is pitter patter punches in quick combos, then get out of range, abraham, for all his strength, is a ctually quite a limited boxer who uses the 'ill get to you sometime in the 12 rounds' attitude, he does not have a plan b, dirrel showed the already knowledgeable world just the way to beat abraham.

froch on the otherhand will want a tear up with abraham...so the fight will be all about power v chin .... and its a hard one to call, on all fronts..

whicker wrote:

CheckHook wrote:

whicker wrote:For crying out loud, leave Andre alone- he fought a BRILLIANT fight against one of the World's best.

Then kinda spoilt it all by doing an impression of someone with brain damage...

Nonsense.

You think he covered himself in glory with his brain damaged twitching then? Or are you actually saying that was a legitimate reaction to the damage Abrahma caused?

Anyone know how many points Dirrell will be awarded for that win? 2 for the win, or will it count as 3 points for a stoppage?

CheckHook wrote:

whicker wrote:

CheckHook wrote: Then kinda spoilt it all by doing an impression of someone with brain damage...

Nonsense.

You think he covered himself in glory with his brain damaged twitching then? Or are you actually saying that was a legitimate reaction to the damage Abrahma caused?

I don't think he was faking, no.

winkveron wrote:Anyone know how many points Dirrell will be awarded for that win? 2 for the win, or will it count as 3 points for a stoppage?

It's 2, I think.

Which in time might be controversial (if a fighter was looking like knocking his opponent out, then said opponent ends up getting disqualified.)

tonyevs wrote:It was a blatant late blow - but it didn`t look a devastating shot, so makes you think if Dirrel was looking for a way out. Or maybe Abraham would have got the legit KO soon enough if Dirrel was that fucked.

Abraham deserved the disqualification though.

For me, the standard of all the guys in the super6 has been very very poor.

not Ward surely?

whicker wrote:

CheckHook wrote:

whicker wrote: Nonsense.

You think he covered himself in glory with his brain damaged twitching then? Or are you actually saying that was a legitimate reaction to the damage Abrahma caused?

I don't think he was faking, no.

Gonna have to agree to disagree there then, looked like a cynical over reaction from Direll to me.

kierny wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0LvAbRSIOA

Here's my take, for what its worth. Yes, Abraham fouled Dirrell & was punished for that foul. However, I do not feel it was malicious on Abraham's part, I do not feel it was purpose. For example, take Bowe vs Mathis, now that was on purpose. Bowe knew exactly what he was doing!

The commentators who were so quick to criticize & judge Abraham should be ashamed of themselves, they are a DISGRACE! Abraham has not done anything like this in the past. It was instinct & Dirrell fell over when he was cornered.

Of a bigger concern was Dirrell's state while he lay on the canvas. I wish Andre well, but these commentators need to STFU in respect of Abraham! It was not malicious. As the commentators stated, the fight was still within Arthur's grasp so I do not see there being any malice in the shot from Abraham!

How often do you see fighters punch others when they're down. Gamboa did it last night, it happens on countless occasions and I'm not so sure Cole would have DQd him had Dirrell not been KO'd.

Dirrell looked to fall over as usual, as soon as he came under heavy fire.

That cheap stunt he pulled made the WWE look like an oscar winning period drama.

Abraham has now been tagged as some sort of horrible cheat, which is way off the mark.

I was impressed by Dirrell last night. After showing no interest in getting involved with Froch it was good to see him giving it back when tagged by Abraham. He showed a desire to fight along with his undoubted ability. It leads me to wonder whether he has changed as a result of the Froch fight or if he just didn't feel that Abraham brought the same kind of threat as Carl.

It would have been interesting to see how Dirrell would have coped with another 2 rounds of pressure but Abraham has no one to blame but himself. I haven't seen a great deal of him and wasn't overly impressed vs Taylor. I'm very confident that Froch takes him.

Rocky Balboa wrote:

kierny wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0LvAbRSIOA

Here's my take, for what its worth. Yes, Abraham fouled Dirrell & was punished for that foul. However, I do not feel it was malicious on Abraham's part, I do not feel it was purpose. For example, take Bowe vs Mathis, now that was on purpose. Bowe knew exactly what he was doing!

The commentators who were so quick to criticize & judge Abraham should be ashamed of themselves, they are a DISGRACE! Abraham has not done anything like this in the past. It was instinct & Dirrell fell over when he was cornered.

Of a bigger concern was Dirrell's state while he lay on the canvas. I wish Andre well, but these commentators need to STFU in respect of Abraham! It was not malicious. As the commentators stated, the fight was still within Arthur's grasp so I do not see there being any malice in the shot from Abraham!

direll always falls over when cornered. usually it's very convenient for him. not so much, this time

G0mez wrote:Dirrell looked to fall over as usual, as soon as he came under heavy fire.

That cheap stunt he pulled made the WWE look like an oscar winning period drama.

Abraham has now been tagged as some sort of horrible cheat, which is way off the mark.

i can believe dirrell faked it. maybe he was hurt, as abraham is heavy handed. but dirrell's reaction was weird, and he does seem petrified of getting hit if we also look at the froch and curtis stephens fights. i think other ppl have been hit harder while down and actually gone on to continue after getting a break.

does annoy me that all of a sudden abraham is "exposed" and "doomed." super 6 gives some opportunity for getting back momentum and the winner of the tourney - whoever it is - may have picked up a L on the way.

whicker wrote:The ref should have been in there quicker, and nearer to the action.

Yes, a boxer shouldn't hot a man when he is down, but then the ref should be in a position to immediatly stop the action if a fighter touches down for whatever reason.

yeah valid point.

it did happen very quickly.

still a valid point though.

BIGMARK wrote:i have to agree 100% and i cant believe it has taken you almost 5000 post for me to agree with you D

the table at the end needs wiping down.

now get back to work.

gobbles wrote:

Autobarn wrote:why does dirrell always seem to fall over when he gets cornered?

did it many times vs froch and should have been thrown out for negative tactics.

did it vs anthony hanshaw in the opening round.

hope he's not damaged but i'm amost glad he got twotted doing this. to me, it's like wlad klitschko holding then turning his back. hopefully he won't keep on doing this.

abraham was coming on and could have won that fight late, if only he'd have controlled himself. ah well, killer instinct.

I thought this. Against Froch, when he was trapped on the ropes, often he'd just fall to the floor as a way of getting out of a difficult situation. He did it a couple of times against Abraham too, because he was in big trouble in the tenth. Also Abraham had been complaining a lot about getting hit low.

my view is that dirrell's looking for a way out of the combat and that he perhaps doesn't really have the stomach for it.

anyway, this will light a fire under abraham's backside. he's a quality fighter but he must get on with it quicker.

Autobarn wrote:

gobbles wrote:

Autobarn wrote:why does dirrell always seem to fall over when he gets cornered?

did it many times vs froch and should have been thrown out for negative tactics.

did it vs anthony hanshaw in the opening round.

hope he's not damaged but i'm amost glad he got twotted doing this. to me, it's like wlad klitschko holding then turning his back. hopefully he won't keep on doing this.

abraham was coming on and could have won that fight late, if only he'd have controlled himself. ah well, killer instinct.

I thought this. Against Froch, when he was trapped on the ropes, often he'd just fall to the floor as a way of getting out of a difficult situation. He did it a couple of times against Abraham too, because he was in big trouble in the tenth. Also Abraham had been complaining a lot about getting hit low.

my view is that dirrell's looking for a way out of the combat and that he perhaps doesn't really have the stomach for it.

anyway, this will light a fire under abraham's backside. he's a quality fighter but he must get on with it quicker.

Dirrell pretty much outboxed Abraham for the entire fight so I don't understand the comment "looking for a way out of the combat".

As far as I saw it, he got hit hard by a right hand from one of the biggest punchers in sport and went down and needed time to recover. Fair enough.

Just because he doesn't stand and trade doesn't mean he wants a way out. He showed great skills and blinding handspeed in the fight. He was robbed vs Froch in my opinion and I was glad to see him get the deserved victory.

As for Abraham, I can't help but feel he kind of got robbed. The referee was nowhere to be seen and Dirrell was right in front of him not protecting himself and he took a swing. In the heat of the battle I can give him a pass. I think he was getting to Dirrell a bit but he had about 4 minutes to get the KO and I very much doubt he would have gotten it, although he was robbed of a knockdown.

I think Abraham will destroy Froch though. Kessler is going to take something out of Froch, win or lose, and when Abraham starts pounding away on Froch, it's not going to be pretty. Froch doesn't want to have a shootout with Abraham, nobody does.

Finally Abraham gets a taste of his own medicine! I've been bitter since Eastman was robbed all those years ago...

I had a hunch Dirrell was the man to beat him - kudos to AA, he's a warrior, but was beaten by the better man.

I can only see AA being stopped on points in this and that will not happen in Germany..

It was a brilliant show from Dirrell, but he really ruined it with the theatrics at the end, and he knew it too.
He took far harder punches from AA in the 10th, and I don't believe for a minute he was knocked cold there, his reaction to the punch was bizzare.
AA deserved the DSQ, but the ref didn't have a great night did he. And to top it all off, anyone notice he kept calling Dirrell "Anthony"?

CheckHook wrote:Abraham deserved to be DQ'd & Dirrell deserves an Oscar.

x2

Disgraceful and sheer act of desperation from a beaten fighter who saw an opportunity (fairest thing I'll say is that it was even a touch of a reflex action, boxing's equivalent to a stupid handball, the only thing is it could end up with someone getting hospitalised) to get rid of an annoying opponent and took it and was quite rightfully disqualified.

Abraham's an uncompromising, tough, dirty fighter who's been shown up. I've never really liked how he gets away with following through right hands with his elbow. And his reaction afterwards, claiming he doesn't look to see if his opponent is down he looks at their eyes was laughable. What, looking at your opponent's eyes when he's on his knees looking at the floor.

AA shouldnt have been DQd, he KTF outa that kid, sikmple, done, dusted, over.