where to now for green?

[Hounddawg]

Are sure they wer'nt regarded as good fighters before stepping in the ring with Green.

Stipe Drews came with a name.

Otis Griffin came with a name.

Jones Jnr came here on the back of a very special performance and one of the biggest names in boxing.

He's been very impressive since Mundine..very.

Stripe Drews what name was that? id say that would go down as one of the top 5 worst title defences ever!

Otis Griffin won a poor mans version of the contender dont ask me what it was called

and yes jones jr came off the back of a good fight but its safe to say he was finished and i dont know if he was even taking it for real he didnt even come out with a sweat up!

ill admit though he's beaten them all impressively but thats like homer simpson when he took up boxing.....boxcar bob!

Best ring entrance song ever"Why can't we be friends".

Danny was the underdog going into the Drews fight, he was 6'5 and was handful in europe apparently, he hadn't been to Perth tho.


Otis Griifin won that reality show of Oscar De La Hoyas, and good things were being talked about for triple OG, he also beat jeff Lacy and got robbed

We all know that Green was a massive underdog going into the RJJ fight, we all saw(well at least i think we did) the RJJ vs Lacy.

He's done well but not enough,i too want to see more.

[Brute]

Bentley 23 is one of those posters who refuses to think good of anybody. Pubs are full of them.

[toppity]

Bentley 23 is one of those posters who refuses to think good of anybody. Pubs are full of them.

How I miss pubs :(

[Brute]

Bentley 23 is one of those posters who refuses to think good of anybody. Pubs are full of them.

How I miss pubs :(

Did they close your local?

[toppity]

nah....i'm off the grog

[Brute]

nah....i'm off the grog

Singer Norm Erskine once told a journo he was off the drink.

By that Big Norm meant he had stopped drinking beer and switched to bourbon and coke.

[jezzamundo]

Something I've recently wondered - what weight is Green once in the ring? Surely there is no need for him to dehydrate before a weigh-in seeing as he is well under the Cruiserweight limit. Edison Miranda and Lucian Bute were both over 180lb (Miranda 185lb) in the ring after making the Super Middleweight limit, but they certainly look smaller than Green. If these guys are able to make 168lb and come in over 180, it makes me think that Green should be able to get back to 175lb, unless he actually is actually 190lb+ in the ring.

[Marlin]

I think he could get back to 175 but I don't think he wants to, he has mentioned a few times how much he enjoys eating now that he doesn't have to worry about making weight. It is a lifestyle thing for Greeny I reckon...

[madball1982]

I think he could get back to 175 but I don't think he wants to, he has mentioned a few times how much he enjoys eating now that he doesn't have to worry about making weight. It is a lifestyle thing for Greeny I reckon...

By saying "he enjoys eating now" you mean pizza and beer right?

[jezzamundo]

I read an article before that said he usually had to lose 7kg to make weight for Light Heavyweight, which would suggest that his walking weight was around 86kg/190lb during his career after the Mundine fight. He and Jones agreed to 180lb, so I suppose that's part of the explanation. He looked great at 184lb last week, and if we are right and he is not intending to return to LHW (I reckon only Mundine could tempt him back, and I wouldn't hold my breath) I would expect his weight to gradually increase over the next couple of fights.

Another question, who, apart from Holyfield (I really don't want to see that fight) would Green be willing to fight at heavyweight? Who would be a good opponent for him?

[Hounddawg]

I read an article before that said he usually had to lose 7kg to make weight for Light Heavyweight, which would suggest that his walking weight was around 86kg/190lb during his career after the Mundine fight. He and Jones agreed to 180lb, so I suppose that's part of the explanation. He looked great at 184lb last week, and if we are right and he is not intending to return to LHW (I reckon only Mundine could tempt him back, and I wouldn't hold my breath) I would expect his weight to gradually increase over the next couple of fights.

Another question, who, apart from Holyfield (I really don't want to see that fight) would Green be willing to fight at heavyweight? Who would be a good opponent for him?

I think theres more to do at this weight first before heading up to Heavyweight.
An introduction to the Aus heavy scene would have to go first, maybe De Mori or Solo make the most sense, then go for what ever after.
Realistically he's got about 2 and half years left(about 7 tough fights) I would like to see him have 1 more fight around this mark at present, then fight any 3 of these cruisers Cunningham,huck,Braithwaite,Flores,Ross,Godfrey,Aleekev,Fragomeni or similar.

Then he can move up to heavy.

[buster007]

i don't think he is interested in really having too many small fights atm. it makes no sense. he can get good money fighting fighting people like jones jnr 2, hopkins, tarver, johnson etc. you'd think.

he'd have to fight 4-6 aussies to get the same money as fighting one of the above.

[Hounddawg]

The fight around the weight he's currently at, i would like it to be Johnson or Erdei, no Tarver(past it) or hopkins(45 years old and never be taken as a serious win) it's a no win situation for Greeny, so johnson or Erdei are my pick.

Those 2 fights would really get the attention of the world, and set up some serious pay days.

As i said 3 of those cruisers at the full weight while challenging and unifying titles. He then would be undisputed cruiser champ, first Australian to do so, and the only Australian to be the undisputed since Kostya. some of those fights are very winnable.

Heading to heavyweight he can command some serious $ on the back of all his accomplishments, he'll need football grounds to seat people, i really dont know he would fight at heavy because the heaviest i've seen him fight at is 184/82.5, to be competitve at this weight we talking Danny at Least being 12.5 kg heavier.

[buster007]

i don't agree that fighting hopkins is a no win situation. green would make a squillian $$. that in itself makes it worth it. and a chance to bash the bloke for talking smack several times about green. it would be hilarious to see popkins put on his ass.

i still would prefer he fight dawson. it won't be a walk in the park for dawson like some people r suggesting and if u want to make a statement then what better way to do it.

[Bentley23]

Bentley 23 is one of those posters who refuses to think good of anybody. Pubs are full of them.

I do love the pub!

Nah i do like greeny but i just dont think you can go on like he did after the manny fight sayin how he couldnt handle "dannys power" " (yes talking in third person) and all that...to me hes starting to sound like mundine eg fighing lower grade fighters and then talking yourself up all i ask is that he fights some highly ranked opponents....id love to see green vs adamek at cruiser...and if it counts i think adamek wins easy!

[Brute]

As the guy in the Luna Park ads used to say: One more time foorr the dummies!

Adamek is now a heavyweight.

[Asterix]

Something I've recently wondered - what weight is Green once in the ring? Surely there is no need for him to dehydrate before a weigh-in seeing as he is well under the Cruiserweight limit. Edison Miranda and Lucian Bute were both over 180lb (Miranda 185lb) in the ring after making the Super Middleweight limit, but they certainly look smaller than Green. If these guys are able to make 168lb and come in over 180, it makes me think that Green should be able to get back to 175lb, unless he actually is actually 190lb+ in the ring.

Green's team would agree to a contracted weight. That's why he would still dehydrate.

[Brute]

I read an article before that said he usually had to lose 7kg to make weight for Light Heavyweight, which would suggest that his walking weight was around 86kg/190lb during his career after the Mundine fight. He and Jones agreed to 180lb, so I suppose that's part of the explanation. He looked great at 184lb last week, and if we are right and he is not intending to return to LHW (I reckon only Mundine could tempt him back, and I wouldn't hold my breath) I would expect his weight to gradually increase over the next couple of fights.

Another question, who, apart from Holyfield (I really don't want to see that fight) would Green be willing to fight at heavyweight? Who would be a good opponent for him?

I think talk about Green fighting at heavyweight is just Angelo Hyder looking for a headline. He can make cruiserweight easily so has no need to go up to the open weight division.

[buster007]

yes there is a reason brute it's called $$$. but i still think there is no chance of it happening. it was just to get more headlines imo.

dummies? of course cause it's unheard of for a fighter to come back down in weight, lol.

if adamek gets smashed when he steps up in opposition he may drop back to cruiser.

[Brute]

He was 220 in his last fight. He fights Arreola this weekend, so he will probably go up in weight for that.

Boxrec has him ranked at No 4 Heavyweight. I can't see him dropping back to 200. He would have gained muscle mass and losing weight would weaken him. Getting "smashed" is not a good reason for dropping in weight divisions. It sure as hell did not work for Byrd.

[buster007]

u know boxrec rankings mean nothing so i don't know why u would bother saying that.

and comparing chris byrd dropping back in weight to adamek is ridiculous. byrd was at heavy for over a decade and adamek only just arrived there.

[Marlin]

How about Roy Jones Jr dropping back in weight? He was never the same again.

[ra2006]

I think he could get back to 175 but I don't think he wants to, he has mentioned a few times how much he enjoys eating now that he doesn't have to worry about making weight. It is a lifestyle thing for Greeny I reckon...

Absolutely agree with this. I am an ex amateur who worked with a nightmare of a club trainer. I am 5ft 11 and used to get down to middleweight (75kg), my normal weight would be 82-84kgs back then. (it was such a long time ago, normal weight is now ninty five (ish))

Losing 6-7kgs with Danny's build would be a piece of p1ss. The trouble is most people who have never been in a boxing environment think that less weight means less power, it does'nt!!!

With the right training balance, the right food, the right preparation and at his age he could make 79kgs without losing the power easily.

The other thing you have to think about is that all the top Cruisers are usually weighing 95-105kg when at normal weight, they have to get down to 90kgs, these guys are both bigger and stronger then Danny. I will say it again, he should be looking to clean up the LHW division.

[buster007]

he should go straight for dawson if he wants to make an impact. this is a fight he can win.

[Brute]

I think he could get back to 175 but I don't think he wants to, he has mentioned a few times how much he enjoys eating now that he doesn't have to worry about making weight. It is a lifestyle thing for Greeny I reckon...

Absolutely agree with this. I am an ex amateur who worked with a nightmare of a club trainer. I am 5ft 11 and used to get down to middleweight (75kg), my normal weight would be 82-84kgs back then. (it was such a long time ago, normal weight is now ninty five (ish))

Losing 6-7kgs with Danny's build would be a piece of p1ss. The trouble is most people who have never been in a boxing environment think that less weight means less power, it does'nt!!!

With the right training balance, the right food, the right preparation and at his age he could make 79kgs without losing the power easily.

The other thing you have to think about is that all the top Cruisers are usually weighing 95-105kg when at normal weight, they have to get down to 90kgs, these guys are both bigger and stronger then Danny. I will say it again, he should be looking to clean up the LHW division.

Dropping 3.6kgs did not help Mundine, he has not scored a KO since he dropped to middleweight.