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The Great John L wrote:

mugabi wrote:The 1973 Foreman would do a 2-3 round demolition job on Holmes. Likely leaving larry out for 10 on the canvas.

Just out of curiosity; exactly which fight in the '73 Foremans career shows us how George would have demolished Holmes? Just take a quick look at his career and find that one fight against a tall, quality, mobile defensive fighter that shows us how he would have done it.

Thanks in advance for your input.

Sorry i just wanted to add to this. Throughout his career i could never imagine someone laying out Larry totally wrecking him except George Foreman mk.
I didnt even think Tyson could do it. Tyson did do it. And Larry fought on for another decade plus and noted punchers like oliver mccall and ray mercer couldnt hurt him.

Guys like Foreman mk1 and Tyson do not come around often, freaks of nature.

Holmes wins both. It was a crime that da fight wern't made in the 90s. I think Foreman wanted none of it, cos he didnt wanna get beat by an old man.

gambler49 wrote:Holmes wins both. It was a crime that da fight wern't made in the 90s. I think Foreman wanted none of it, cos he didnt wanna get beat by an old man.

The fight fell through because it didn't sell. It was being made.

Nice to be discussing the principals again and not one another.

Goodnight, Irene wrote:

gambler49 wrote:Holmes wins both. It was a crime that da fight wern't made in the 90s. I think Foreman wanted none of it, cos he didnt wanna get beat by an old man.

The fight fell through because it didn't sell. It was being made.

Really? I've never heard that before. What time frame?

Grist for the mill

Holmes-Foreman: winner-take-Geritol Fortysomething title appeals to fight fans

February 09, 1992|By Alan Goldstein | Alan Goldstein,Staff CorrespondentATLANTIC CITY, N.J. -- Almost every step fight promoter Bob Arum took through the crowded Trump Plaza casino early yesterday morning after watching Larry Holmes' upset of Ray Mercer, a gambler would stop him and say: "Make Larry and George. We want to see that fight."

That's Larry and George, as in Larry Holmes, 42, and George Foreman, 43, two born-again former heavyweight champions who could be matched this June in the biggest money-making fight of all time, each assured of a minimum $10 million guarantee.

"Yeah," said Holmes, "we'll fight for the 'Geritol championship.' We've both proved age has nothing to do with competing and winning. I live the good life, and so does George, and now we have the respect of everyone over 40."


A Holmes-Foreman fight would have been a laughable idea five years ago when Foreman, after a 10-year absence from the ring, launched his improbable comeback that was capped by going 12 rounds last year against current heavyweight champion Evander Holyfield.

Taking a cue from Foreman, Holmes ended a three-year retirement last year, determined to make one last attempt to regain the crown he wore for more than seven years (1978-1985) before losing a controversial decision to Michael Spinks.

In a masterful performance Friday night, Holmes, a 4-1 underdog, moved considerably closer to his goal by taking unbeaten, but untutored Mercer, 30, to school for 12 rounds on the art of boxing.

It was in this same ring four years ago that Holmes' boxing career was declared officially dead after he was flattened in four rounds by then heavyweight champion Mike Tyson.

Had Tyson remained champion, Holmes would have been content to stay home, gather interest on his municipal bonds and collect rents from his real estate holdings.

But with Tyson losing his title to Buster Douglas and with his ring future in doubt while he is on trial for an alleged rape in Indianapolis, Holmes views himself as a logical challenger to Holyfield.

And yet, a showdown with Foreman seems to be a much hotter ticket. And surprisingly, Holmes, rather than the comedic Foreman, might now be the cast as the sentimental favorite.

Once called a pale imitation of his idol, Muhammad Ali, and known for putting his foot in his mouth with a classic put-down of legendary Rocky Marciano, Holmes has now seemingly shed his negative image and gained the respect he so long craved.

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1992-0 ... -12-rounds

Here's a link to several articles regarding an old Foreman v old Holmes bout but damned if I'm paying $199.00 to read them:

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-15879533.html

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Goodnight, Irene wrote:

gambler49 wrote:Holmes wins both. It was a crime that da fight wern't made in the 90s. I think Foreman wanted none of it, cos he didnt wanna get beat by an old man.

The fight fell through because it didn't sell. It was being made.

Really? I've never heard that before. What time frame?

1999. Prematurely titled, "The Birthday Bash," to celebrate their 50th years.

I figured that's what you meant. George wasn't real keen on the idea when it would have been a big attraction.

Holmes

Goodnight, Irene wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Goodnight, Irene wrote: The fight fell through because it didn't sell. It was being made.

Really? I've never heard that before. What time frame?

1999. Prematurely titled, "The Birthday Bash," to celebrate their 50th years.

'The Birthday Bash'

Foreman, Holmes set to bring a combined 99-years to battle



NEW YORK (AP) -- George Foreman and Larry Holmes went through the motions of grilling hamburgers for kids on Tuesday. But the two old former heavyweight champions say there's no way they will just be going through the motions January 23.

"Once that bell rings all we know is competing, winning, fighting," said Foreman, who will fight Holmes in the Houston Astrodome 13 days after he turns 50.

"I'm not here for my health," said Holmes, who became 49 November 3. "I'm here to let you know I'm fighting a fight. My style would have beaten George Foreman 20 years ago, and my style will beat him this time."

Foreman drew laughs when he said, "I'll be two hundredahhhhh." He has not weighed less than 250 pounds since he weighed 244 in 1988, the second year of his comeback from a 10-year retirement.

"I'm not going to run," Foreman said. "I don't know how. I don't even do road work."

Pride is at stake in "The Birthday Bash," which will be carried on pay-per-view for $39.95. Pride, however, is not the only thing getting these elderly pros into the ring. Foreman is getting $10 million and Holmes $4 million.

Foreman and Holmes were in New York for a round of television and radio interviews and for what was more a photo opportunity than a news conference.

The two men donned chef's jackets and Holmes put on a tall hat to pose as a hamburger griller for 30 children (ages 8-13) from the Salvation Army's Bushwick Center in Brooklyn.

Fortunately for the kids, Foreman and Holmes, weren't grilling for real because the cooks might have gotten into sampling their own fare. The children were served lunch later.

Both men have said several times their boxing careers are over.

"This is a fight surely to end all fights," Foreman said. Then he smiled.

"I ain't ever going to say never again," Holmes said. "I'm tired of lying to you guys."

Then he said, "I want to fight Mike Tyson [who knocked Holmes out in 1988] right after I beat George Foreman. If he [Tyson] hurts me, I can bite his ears off."

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