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Re: How Can You Not Lose Respect For David Haye?
Posted: 25 May 2010, 12:49
by Captain Hook
Agreed...
And have I missed something...what gives people the impression Haye is afraid of the Klitshkos?
Like Froch, he has never shirked a challenge
Give him a chance, he'll take them on, or at least one of them.
Re: How Can You Not Lose Respect For David Haye?
Posted: 25 May 2010, 12:59
by lefthook82
So if Haye fights Harrison, sky go into overdrive, the casual fan gets drawn in, it sells well and then lasts 1 round do you guys think that will be 'good for British Boxing'
I can't think of a more cynical matchup. This would even make allegedly blush if i came off
Bonin, Barrett, Valuev, Ruiz and potentially Harrison as your heavyweight CV plus pull outs against the two Klitchkos yet all I keep hearing is breath of fresh air, take on anyone, etc etc
Am I missing something?
Re: How Can You Not Lose Respect For David Haye?
Posted: 25 May 2010, 13:01
by jeej
Audley Harrison? Blimey. 10 years ago he won a gold medal. All been down hill since then.
Enzo is a better boxer than Audley, look what happened there! At least Enzo was game for a fight, Audley will be like a rabbit in the headlights.
Re: How Can You Not Lose Respect For David Haye?
Posted: 25 May 2010, 13:02
by jeej
lefthook82 wrote:So if Haye fights Harrison, sky g into overdrive, the casual fan gets drawn in, it sells well and then lasts 1 round do you guys think that will 'good for British Boxing'
Bonin, Barrett, Valuev, Ruiz and potentially Harrison as your heavyweight CV plus pull outs against the two Klitchkos yet all I keep hearing is breath of fresh air, take on anyone, etc etc
Am I missing something?
Very good point. It will have an adverse effect and people will think the sport is a joke... and it is a lot of the time.
Re: How Can You Not Lose Respect For David Haye?
Posted: 25 May 2010, 13:41
by HomeOfBritishBoxing
tonyevs wrote:I too wouldn`t be that surprised if Harrison Ko`ed Haye ... I favour Haye to win - just think Harrison is more than capable of springing the upset.
Harrison isn`t that much worse than Valuev or Ruiz .. and they are the best Haye has beaten at heavyweight

ruiz would pummel audley,so would valuev IMO
Re: How Can You Not Lose Respect For David Haye?
Posted: 25 May 2010, 13:42
by stujones
This fight will go longer than people anticipate..... Haye is weary of his own chin also.
Look at how Haye fought another big heavyweight. I don't think he has the fearsome one punch KO power at this weight - like he did at Cruiser, and he will be cautious at the start.
Re: How Can You Not Lose Respect For David Haye?
Posted: 25 May 2010, 13:42
by jBacca
Would Haye v Fraudley be on PPV?

Re: How Can You Not Lose Respect For David Haye?
Posted: 25 May 2010, 13:58
by HomeOfBritishBoxing
stujones wrote:This fight will go longer than people anticipate..... Haye is weary of his own chin also.
Look at how Haye fought another big heavyweight. I don't think he has the fearsome one punch KO power at this weight - like he did at Cruiser, and he will be cautious at the start.
haye would land that big right on audleys chin just like he did against ruiz within the 1st minute, diffrence is audley will be outcold imo
Re: How Can You Not Lose Respect For David Haye?
Posted: 25 May 2010, 14:24
by JamesH
stujones wrote:This fight will go longer than people anticipate..... Haye is weary of his own chin also.
Look at how Haye fought another big heavyweight. I don't think he has the fearsome one punch KO power at this weight - like he did at Cruiser, and he will be cautious at the start.
I'm not so sure, if he drives Aud to the corner early and overwhelms him like he did Enzo, I don't think Aud would cope at all. I really think Haye will make a quick and serious advantage of the week and a half Aud takes to throw a shot. I'll watch it, and its an understandable fight for Haye to take, even if it is not the most challenging.
Re: How Can You Not Lose Respect For David Haye?
Posted: 25 May 2010, 14:39
by Autobarn
jBacca wrote:Would Haye v Fraudley be on PPV?

of course it would, and it would be a big sell i would think, bigger than haye-ruiz. no one's leaked or bragged about the # of buys for haye-ruiz, so maybe it'd take audley in a battle of britain to get closer to the success of haye-valuev. it's the novelty fights that sell.
Re: How Can You Not Lose Respect For David Haye?
Posted: 25 May 2010, 14:53
by jBacca
Autobarn wrote:jBacca wrote:Would Haye v Fraudley be on PPV?

of course it would, and it would be a big sell i would think, bigger than haye-ruiz. no one's leaked or bragged about the # of buys for haye-ruiz, so maybe it'd take audley in a battle of britain to get closer to the success of haye-valuev. it's the novelty fights that sell.
Well, i knew it would be, my expression was my concern at paying £15 for a round or two.
Would need a big undercard!
Re: How Can You Not Lose Respect For David Haye?
Posted: 25 May 2010, 15:12
by Autobarn
it'd be a good laugh.
hopefulyl with a strong undercard.
Re: How Can You Not Lose Respect For David Haye?
Posted: 25 May 2010, 16:04
by lefthook82
Despite my protestations I'd pay for it anyway if it came off. No way can I watch a brutal KO on Sky Sports News, I'll need it live.
Re: How Can You Not Lose Respect For David Haye?
Posted: 25 May 2010, 17:18
by TheCobra
I can't honestly see how they'd expect people to see this on PPV, it is a good fight at british level, a good laugh and all that, an easy in-betweeny fight which I agree Haye has a right to after the progression he has had into the HWs.
But, PPV? No way Jose!
Re: How Can You Not Lose Respect For David Haye?
Posted: 26 May 2010, 08:19
by Dioufy
I am one of Haye's biggest fans but if he takes the Audley fight, then things will change.
Even if the fight doesn't happen with either Klit then there's still about 300 fighters better than Audley.
Chagaev, Adamek, ect, ect.
Joke if it happens!
Re: How Can You Not Lose Respect For David Haye?
Posted: 26 May 2010, 10:24
by Autobarn
lefthook82 wrote:Despite my protestations I'd pay for it anyway if it came off. No way can I watch a brutal KO on Sky Sports News, I'll need it live.
so would i. it's the heavyweight championship (or a portion of it), something brits have great trouble winning. to have two brits - one genuine world class in 2 weights, the other notorious and still a name due to his olympic achievement - in a grudge match will make for a great event. not a great fight, but it'd get the casual fans talking.
Re: How Can You Not Lose Respect For David Haye?
Posted: 26 May 2010, 15:25
by Finn
I've said it before and i'll say it again the should do Haye and Audley v The klits both on the same night, wembley stadium - it would be massive.
Re: How Can You Not Lose Respect For David Haye?
Posted: 26 May 2010, 16:28
by Khaosai-Galaxy
What had Eubank done before challenging Nigel Benn?
Fwank Bruno before Lewis?
Naseem before Steve Robinson?
I can't believe people on here* 2 British fighters potentially fighting in a world title bout and still you whinge like my gran does about foreign food. Why does every fighter have to fight the other top fighter in the division, every single effing time? please name me a single fighter in the history of time who always fought the absolute best, no matter the consequences?
Jokers, the effing lot of you
*Well actually, i can
Re: How Can You Not Lose Respect For David Haye?
Posted: 26 May 2010, 16:50
by FLINT ISLAND
Captain Hook wrote:Agreed...
And have I missed something...what gives people the impression Haye is afraid of the Klitshkos?
Like Froch, he has never shirked a challenge
Give him a chance, he'll take them on, or at least one of them.
What gives me and alot of others the impression he is afraid of a Klitschko is - he has been calling out Wlad or Vitali from the moment that he beat Maccarenelli and announced as expected he was moving up to heavyweight. In the post fight interview after he stop Maccarenelli he called out all the heavys - call them bums - mocking Wlads jabbing and boring style - and from there on persisiting in challenging the Klitshckos - even in Public.
Wlad and Vitali after intially telling him to get in line - then said OK - lets get it on.
Over 2 years later - he hasnt fought one of them.
Give him a chance? He already had 2 chances - to fight first Wlad and then Vitali - he pulled out of both fights.
Re: How Can You Not Lose Respect For David Haye?
Posted: 26 May 2010, 16:54
by J
Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:What had Eubank done before challenging Nigel Benn?
Fwank Bruno before Lewis?
Naseem before Steve Robinson?
I can't believe people on here* 2 British fighters potentially fighting in a world title bout and still you whinge like my gran does about foreign food. Why does every fighter have to fight the other top fighter in the division, every single effing time? please name me a single fighter in the history of time who always fought the absolute best, no matter the consequences?
Jokers, the effing lot of you
*Well actually, i can
well said.
it gets faaakin boring, first hatton never fought the best (what witter do fack off) now haye.
Re: How Can You Not Lose Respect For David Haye?
Posted: 26 May 2010, 17:11
by Khaosai-Galaxy
J wrote:Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:What had Eubank done before challenging Nigel Benn?
Fwank Bruno before Lewis?
Naseem before Steve Robinson?
I can't believe people on here* 2 British fighters potentially fighting in a world title bout and still you whinge like my gran does about foreign food. Why does every fighter have to fight the other top fighter in the division, every single effing time? please name me a single fighter in the history of time who always fought the absolute best, no matter the consequences?
Jokers, the effing lot of you
*Well actually, i can
well said.
it gets faaakin boring, first hatton never fought the best (what witter do fack off) now haye.
hatton never fought the best, he only fought umm Tsyu, Mayweather, Pacquiao and Castillo
While Witter fought ummmm ummmmm ummmmm
Hattion ducked Witter!!!!!
Calzaghe fought Jones, Hopkins, Kessler, Lacey, Eubank
but of course he ducked Frotch
so sleeeeeeeepy
Re: How Can You Not Lose Respect For David Haye?
Posted: 26 May 2010, 17:24
by Autobarn
Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:What had Eubank done before challenging Nigel Benn?
Fwank Bruno before Lewis?
Naseem before Steve Robinson?
I can't believe people on here* 2 British fighters potentially fighting in a world title bout and still you whinge like my gran does about foreign food. Why does every fighter have to fight the other top fighter in the division, every single effing time? please name me a single fighter in the history of time who always fought the absolute best, no matter the consequences?
Jokers, the effing lot of you
*Well actually, i can
not only that, but 2 british fighters fighting for a HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP.
doesn't happen too often and the last one was not only a decent fight - lewis-bruno - but a good clash of personalities.
didn't lewis almost get sued for calling frank an uncle tom?
there's clearly a market for fights like these - we all have a fascination with "who's the daddy?" - and if haye's going to remain a sky sports fighter then domestic battles should be on the radar as much as big international ones.
Re: How Can You Not Lose Respect For David Haye?
Posted: 26 May 2010, 17:29
by Asterix
FLINT ISLAND wrote:Give him a chance? He already had 2 chances - to fight first Wlad and then Vitali - he pulled out of both fights.
I'm pretty sure he never signed to fight Vitali. He didn't like the contract. The Wlad fight went tits up with Setanta.
Re: How Can You Not Lose Respect For David Haye?
Posted: 26 May 2010, 17:32
by Khaosai-Galaxy
Autobarn wrote:Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:What had Eubank done before challenging Nigel Benn?
Fwank Bruno before Lewis?
Naseem before Steve Robinson?
I can't believe people on here* 2 British fighters potentially fighting in a world title bout and still you whinge like my gran does about foreign food. Why does every fighter have to fight the other top fighter in the division, every single effing time? please name me a single fighter in the history of time who always fought the absolute best, no matter the consequences?
Jokers, the effing lot of you
*Well actually, i can
not only that, but 2 british fighters fighting for a HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP.
doesn't happen too often and the last one was not only a decent fight - lewis-bruno - but a good clash of personalities.
didn't lewis almost get sued for calling frank an uncle tom?
there's clearly a market for fights like these - we all have a fascination with "who's the daddy?" - and if haye's going to remain a sky sports fighter then domestic battles should be on the radar as much as big international ones.
Lewis - Bruno was a great event and a real forgotten "classic" well almost.
Bruno really should have won that fight, to be honest, he had Lewis right where he wanted him after 3 rounds. oh well
That was a huge deal back when no one had SKY, now imagine how big it would be?
Re: How Can You Not Lose Respect For David Haye?
Posted: 26 May 2010, 17:32
by Autobarn
klitschkos are going to fvck off and retire after this year anyway.
then we can get loads of good fights involving the likes of haye, adamek, povetkin, boytsov and solis.
haye, if he plays his cards right, will be the money fighter of the division. he'll be in the best position to negotiate with the big promoters and TV giants.