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briggs retired because he didn't have it anymore - ages ago.

he's simply unfit mentally and physicalyl to get in a boxing ring.

he shouldn't have been allowed to fight and a lot of ppl knew this already.

danny green better start getting some better fights otherwise he'll go down as a bottom feeder. i give him more credit than most for his talent, toughness and most of all his offensive skills. the man is capable of much better than this and i hope the fans stop buying tickets and PPVs for events like these.

next stop: shane cameron. ok, a heavyweight (one knocked senseless by tua, and tua's well past his best). but green still hasn't fought any good cruiserweights. he's only fought "dannyweight" opponents, no-hopers down at 180-pounds!

Autobarn wrote: what is danny green doing fighting a guy nearly 4 years out of action, who looked bad in his last fight? answer: he is exploiting the names of ppl like paul briggs - once good fighters - and he'll keep on with these dreadful "fringe" fights and farces until australian TV demands MUCH BETTER for their money.

Not gonna happen. We've been served up this sort of shite for years. And its a disgrace, given Australia is a great sporting country.

convict wrote:Briggs dived harder then Marlin on a Danny Green poster.....What rubbish.

i have a feeling that this fight and RJJ fight were rigged

reasons for my conspiracy theory

* Roy barely threw a punch against Green coming from that impressive performance over Jeff Lacy,
* I heard he barely trained for the fight while in Australia
* He was paid big money for a reason
* Green promised that he will fight a respectable person (but ended up fighting Siaca)

* Fight was canceled in NSW, but on short noticed moved to Perth, hmmmmmmm
* Briggs out of shape, had low care factor prefight
* Green's reaction in weigh in, he did not penalize Briggs financially, very unusual
* Briggs takes a blatant dive
* Green's face in the corner was more nervous then angry, his reaction after wards was very defensive

I am a green fan, but i don't think he is that great of a boxer (reason why he is still fighting washed up fighters)

it all seems to fishy for me

After a night to sleep on it I am still fcuking furious I have wasted $50 on that circus. I fcuking furious that Danny will not step up to world class, and I am fcuking irritated with the media calling him a World Champion ( i will not to go into my usual rant about the IBO being a joke belt).

Most of all, I am annoyed at the fact that Briggs was picked in the first place, and more annoyed at team greens organisation of this farce. The thing that annoys me the most! Danny's post "fight" interview. Come on Danny, people who post on this forum are no mugs and have been saying that this was going to end in tears when it was annouced.

I think Green has to answer to this NSW said no and for good reason but the money hungry Green still wanted a pay day against a bum so he took it home where he knew they would not knock it back and this farce is what Green deserved. If this was Choc everyone would be blaming Boxa for another dud, but it is your golden boy so everyone blames Briggs.

IMO the fault lies 100% with Green and his choice of opponent, lets be honest we would all hop in and have aswing for the right money ans thats what Briggs did took the money.

Green is now going lower than Mundine - never thought that was possible they are now a couple of shameless bottomer feeders

Soundkamp wrote:i have a feeling that this fight and RJJ fight were rigged

reasons for my conspiracy theory

* Roy barely threw a punch against Green coming from that impressive performance over Jeff Lacy,
* I heard he barely trained for the fight while in Australia
* He was paid big money for a reason
* Green promised that he will fight a respectable person (but ended up fighting Siaca)

* Fight was canceled in NSW, but on short noticed moved to Perth, hmmmmmmm
* Briggs out of shape, had low care factor prefight
* Green's reaction in weigh in, he did not penalize Briggs financially, very unusual
* Briggs takes a blatant dive
* Green's face in the corner was more nervous then angry, his reaction after wards was very defensive

I am a green fan, but i don't think he is that great of a boxer (reason why he is still fighting washed up fighters)

it all seems to fishy for me

Jones was not capable of beating Green. Lacy was a flash in the pan. Briggs was after a payday. Not a fix, just two overmatched opponents.

the only people to blame r the idiots that pay for this rubbish.

r people that thick?

can u not possibly work out that if nobody wastes their hard earned money on this then they won't put the mediocre events on.

its very simple guys.

green vs jones was different. but green vs siaca and mundine vs no.8 ranked argentinian bantamweight cabbie is a joke.

Siaca was WBA Super Middleweight Champion and went the distance with a Light Heavyweight Champion.

Buster is right. They are no different.

Sounds like the speech from Green post Briggs was more or less the same as post Siaca, apologising to the crowd and tearing shreds off his opponent for being unworthy. Danny needs to stop trying wash his hands clean of any responsibility.

Wasnt Briggs part of Green's camp helping him prepare for RJJ? He cant say he was unaware of Briggsy's form

Any other excuses?...pfft

I had a feeling something like this might happen.

Brute wrote:Siaca was WBA Super Middleweight Champion and went the distance with a Light Heavyweight Champion.

He lost virtually every round to the very average interim champion Silvio Branco four years before fighting Green. He then took two years off and had two bouts against poor opponents before fighting Green. A fighter with the ability of Green has absolutely no buisness fighting that version of Manny Siaca. Green should be fighting cruiserweights who are currently world class and at the top of their game. Siaca was nowhere near those things.

yes, don't dare try and sugar-coat it.

green fighting siaca in 2010 is ordinary at best.

buster007 wrote:yes, don't dare try and sugar-coat it.

green fighting siaca in 2010 is ordinary at best.

I don't think it can be sugar coated.

I think we all knew Siaca fought Green for the same reason Briggs did. A quick and relatively easy payday. Green went along with it.

You think our fighters are bad?

Have a look at the "news" page of this blog. The Poms are singing the praises of Matthew Hatton and he could not beat poor old Lovemore Ndou in his own backyard!

I went along last night and forked out $120 for a great seat. The card was good, except for the main event, and the show was basically 90% value for money.
To look at, I thought Briggsy was prepared although I had heard many rumours regarding his poor performance in sparring etc. IF it was a first round KO, legitimate, would there be such an uproar from the supporters ?? I dont think so.The fact Briggsy had some sort of melt down in the ring should not be blamed on Danny. Blame shouldve been throuwn at Danny when the fight was signed, but many people seemed to warm to the idea as time went on.
Danny needs to get a creditable, active opponent such as Flores or Cunningham and fight them to regain the respect of sme of his fans, even if financially it is not the best fight for him.
IMO the blame for last nights farce lays with one bloke and thats Briggs. I really hope someone is looking after him outside the ring because he looked like a guy in a very dark place when he left the ring last night.

Can anyone remember Briggs last fight against Rupert van Aswegen before he retired? He looked terrible in that fight and that was over 3 years ago.
I remember seeing the fight then thinking what a shadow of his former self he was and although he was relatively young thought that he made the right decision to retire.

Everyone is blaming both Briggs and Green for this joke but I think Billy Hussein needs to be held accountable, he was Briggs trainer and he would have seen first hand that he was in no shape to fight.
Jeff Fenech who I have no time for even came out and said that he could tell Briggs was not up to it so why did Hussein let it happen?
How about looking after your boxer and putting there welfare first, but he probably just wanted an easy $20,000.....

Brute wrote:You think our fighters are bad?

Have a look at the "news" page of this blog. The Poms are singing the praises of Matthew Hatton and he could not beat poor old Lovemore Ndou in his own backyard!

But it is up to us to to supply Australian content. If we all can pull together a monthly update on the Pacific boxing news then we can be on the front page.

does anybody else think part of the reason for briggs being past it fairly early is because he was a pro fighter since he was 15?

without question. kickboxing,training in thailand,stating so young,going to boxing,being in some wars with a bloke that is no mug.
now the dust has settled a bit from my view now the fight should just not have happened.
as for the KO- well i cannot see Briggs diving.and now having seen all the angles there was reasonable contact made NOT on the hardest part of the skull as some have suggested but just behind it ie the eVIL top of thhe head. if my memory is correct the punch Trinidad threw v waters was a glance type to thhe top of thhe head and from there waters was GONE though stilll on his feet(until he got pummeled). could be wrong.
Briggs wouldnt dog a fighht.Surely. he is the definition of a warrior. i guess only Briggs knows. I hope he is being looked out for NOW.would hate to see anything bad come of this for Briggs and his healthh,phhysically or mentally.

AS for some of the utter wankers on Current scene-while Green has turned into an egotistical circus clown i hhope some will remember his earlyy days.NEVER a GREAT boxer- but anyone who cant vallue his power,toughness and warrior spirit AND the fact hhe had several BIG fights overseas has to count for some form of positive legacy. He does need to regain his standing as a warrior,not a money maker,if he is to take the tarnish off his legacy as a real fighters fighter.Not the most talented by any means but geeez he does at least deserve some credit. BUT if thhis nonsense continues he is doomed forever(though not financially of course-perhaps Mrs Green needs a few more pricey trinkets).

p4p1 wrote:does anybody else think part of the reason for briggs being past it fairly early is because he was a pro fighter since he was 15?

Yes

Hounddawg wrote:

p4p1 wrote:does anybody else think part of the reason for briggs being past it fairly early is because he was a pro fighter since he was 15?

Yes

After reading his book it is hard not to think that the drugs played a part as well...

jeff malcolm, one of countless fighters who started at 15 in aussie and god knows how many overseas still had it iill the end, your all looking for excuses, it was a STEW, get over it, and talk about katsidas and darchinian. all the best

not excuses my friend just public venting due to the disappointment of basically everything to do wiith the fight especially how it ended.
i do not pretend to know iitalll coz i dont and uunless you have superhuman powers patron then you sayiing it was a STEW is just an opinion. Like what others are saying. your opiniion is NOT fact so stop treatiing us like dumb turds mate.the onlly person who really knows iif he dived is Briggs himself.
That said i do agree we should move on as ii think all angles have been covered and there are worthy fighters who need our support and deserve discussion.
If you do however have superhuman powers then can i get answers to these questions
1)who shot jfk 2)did the CIA kiilll Harold Holt 3)does Natalie Portman secretly want to have sex wiith me everyday for the rest of my life.

Yes, Green should never have made the match-up without Briggs proving his worth again first. But myself, like a lot of others that watch fights and even some that post here were still (albeit hesitant) looking forward to this fight. #1 because it's a fight we've waited how long to see? 5, 6 years? Longer? #2 Briggs deserved another big pay-day #3 We believed Briggs when he said he was in the best shape of his life.

Once it was declined by NSW, it should not have gone ahead at all. But this is not entirely Green's fault IMO. Or Briggs' for that matter. I like to believe that Green and his camp did not know the full extent of what state/condition Briggs was in, for a couple of reasons (this is all speculation on my behalf, if he truly knew Briggs' condition then he's a heartless bastard) #1 Did the NSW Combat Authority release the full findings to Green's camp or did they get what we, the public got? Which was minimal #2 How often is so-called first-hand opinion (regarding ppl talking about his condition) turn out to be B.S.? I'm sure everytime they asked Briggs he said he was fine, someone's pulling his leg

I still believe that Hussein should've not allowed this fight to continue. Big payday for Briggs or not, go straight to GMP and voice this opinion. Did he do this? If not, he should shoulder a small part of the blame.

In hindsight, after the NSW CA rejected the fight, Green should've found another opponent. Fight Cameron. Get a local like Vea. Get a farkin Argie. Anything. We, the public, would have been less upset. But hey, with hindsight I could've picked last week's lotto numbers too.

Everyone has their blame and no-one is fully to blame and no-one is innocent, IMO. Except me of course and unless you can prove that in a court of law I'll always be innocent.

But in all seriousness, I hope Briggs recovers mentally and physically and I also hope that Green is able to recover his fans and respect within the boxing community. Both of them deserve exactly that.