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Posted: 12 Feb 2004, 13:13
by RC
Right, after sifting through that lot I'm going to give you my thoughts on the subject. My mother was welsh and my father is english, I was born in Wales but have an english accent and have lived in England for many years. There is some fact in most of what everyone is saying but a lot of bollocks too.

When you start talking about rugby we spend the first week and a half insulting each other before we even get started on the english...and even when we do it's (almost) always in jest. You'll always find some twats who define themselves by their club and also the country and a negative stance against whoever the local derby-team is but isn't this just the same with England and football? Do you notice the balanced, sensible people or the ruder, usually drunker & louder elements in a crowd. I hate it when welshmen are defined by this element rather than the vast majority of good-humoured folk who like a bit of sporting banter.

As for english thoughts on the welsh having listened for years to people slating the welsh when they think there are none around (like I say I have an english accent) I find them to be as stupid and opinionated about the welsh as vice-versa...and, yes, I find that annoying too - being half-english I don't want to hear the english slagged off either.

So in conclusion if the idiots would just grow up then the rest of us adults can enjoy the sport in peace...except for a bit of healthy banter of course

Posted: 12 Feb 2004, 13:21
by mickeybeard
Eerch. Uni rugby teams. I played for a club when I was of school age, but gave up at uni when the team seemed to want to spend all their free time pissing in each others beers and shaving the bollocks of whoever passed out first. At all my mates unis that I ever went to visit, the uni rugby team were pretty much the most hated people on campus. Well, they were with anyone who had any sense.
I suppose the tale is that there are arseholes everywhere of all nationalities - English too.
Truer words... I've always been of the opinion that there are only really two types people in the world: people who are twats, and people who aren't. A little simplistic maybe, but it works for us country bumpkin types. :D

Posted: 12 Feb 2004, 16:27
by tonyevs
Is this a boxing forum???
Alot of stereotypes are being descibed here..get back to the original subject...

Posted: 15 Feb 2004, 15:32
by Loftgroov
nice full page article on Amir Khan in todays Sunday Express...

Posted: 15 Feb 2004, 19:43
by steve689
Lugh wrote:Incidentally, even the Welsh accept that Swansea is a dreadful place!!
I went for a night out there this friday just gone and once the underlying threat i was going to get kicked in passed i actually had a good night :D Makes a nice change from Wolverhampton anyway and all the Scottish rugby fans around made for a good atmosphere too.

Posted: 16 Feb 2004, 16:56
by REAL_DEAL
Loftgroov wrote:nice full page article on Amir Khan in todays Sunday Express...
watch him on eurosport, then decide for yourself

Posted: 16 Feb 2004, 19:19
by steve689
REAL_DEAL wrote:
Loftgroov wrote:nice full page article on Amir Khan in todays Sunday Express...
watch him on eurosport, then decide for yourself
When is he on Eurosport Real Deal?

Posted: 16 Feb 2004, 21:39
by Southpaw Stylist
All next week starting from Tuesday at 5:30pm.

Posted: 20 Feb 2004, 14:49
by Freiheit
Amir Khan just lost his first round fight 29-20 to Avtandil Kashia from Georgia

Posted: 20 Feb 2004, 15:06
by REAL_DEAL
does that means hes out?

idont follow the amature scence

Posted: 20 Feb 2004, 15:10
by Freiheit
Yes he is out. He still got 2 more chances for qualifying for the olympics, but he needs a 1st or 2nd place in one of those two tournaments.

Posted: 20 Feb 2004, 16:08
by Ulysses
Featherweight Gary Sykes has also been eliminated, as has light-heavy Tony Davis. However, English middleweight Darren Barker beat an Italian and Ireland's Andy Lee is also through at the weight.
World silver medallist at middleweight, Oleg Mashkin, has been knocked out by Olympic silver medallist Gaiderbek Gaidarbekov.

Posted: 20 Feb 2004, 16:12
by steve689
Freiheit wrote:Yes he is out. He still got 2 more chances for qualifying for the olympics, but he needs a 1st or 2nd place in one of those two tournaments.
Could the dream be over before it has begun? :cry:

Posted: 21 Feb 2004, 04:53
by Southpaw Stylist
Was this on Eurosport?

Posted: 21 Feb 2004, 10:01
by Freiheit
No they wont start showing fight until tuesday

Posted: 21 Feb 2004, 10:26
by A.Will
Going back to the other thing...
Well I am half Welsh and half English.
I think the reason why all the other home nations seem to unite in their hate of England is because they were the ones that are not as strong a force and the oppressed ones where they don't talk their own language etc. etc.

The British and not British thing works the other way aswell. Like when the Scottish footy team wins they are British and when they lose they are Scottish, that's the impression I gets sometimes anyway.

Posted: 21 Feb 2004, 11:11
by Ulysses
At welterweight, talented Scot Craig McEwan got stopped in a slight shock, Jamie Moore conqueror, Henry Coyle has also been eliminated.
This is a very strong competition.
Our big men, David Price and David Dolan have got a Norwegian and Frenchman respectively, I'd expect both to win but you never know...

Posted: 21 Feb 2004, 11:57
by Freiheit
Price got a good chance of qualifying for the olympics. Should he win vs the norwegian he will meet the winner of a turk vs an albanian. The winner of that fight will qualify for the olympics. after seeing Price in 2002 I think he should be very thankful for the draw that he got.

I dont know the frenchman that Dolan is fighting but the winner of that fight will most likely go to the olympics since the winner will meet a bosnian that is not very good.

Posted: 21 Feb 2004, 14:30
by Ulysses
Apparently the Frenchman was the runner-up in the French national championships, as all the other French boxers are national champions it begs they question where is their heavyweight champ?

Posted: 21 Feb 2004, 14:54
by Freiheit
Dolan won 31-23

Posted: 21 Feb 2004, 22:43
by Jamir
Ulysses wrote:At welterweight, talented Scot Craig McEwan got stopped in a slight shock, Jamie Moore conqueror, Henry Coyle has also been eliminated.
This is a very strong competition.
Our big men, David Price and David Dolan have got a Norwegian and Frenchman respectively, I'd expect both to win but you never know...
Price will probably be eliminated, especially if he fights Roberto Camarelle.

Posted: 22 Feb 2004, 07:56
by Ulysses
Price beat Borkhall of Norway 44-32.
Camarelle had a good result in stopping the German in the third.

England's light-fly and fly, Darran Langley and Don Broadhurst both box tomorrow as does Irish light-fly Conor Ahern. As does David Dolan in his second bout of the tournament.

Posted: 22 Feb 2004, 16:27
by Loftgroov
Freiheit wrote:Amir Khan just lost his first round fight 29-20 to Avtandil Kashia from Georgia
So how good is this Georgian?

This seems somehting a shock doesn't it? Does anyone know if its a case of Khan having a "off night", or this Georgian being too good?

Posted: 22 Feb 2004, 17:52
by Ulysses
It appears Messrs. Langley, Ahern and Broadhurst all were eliminated today, but...

there's a real cracker tomorrow... England v Ireland...

Darren Barker v Andy Lee at middleweight!!! :o

Great fight!

Posted: 22 Feb 2004, 18:39
by Southpaw Stylist
Loftgroov wrote:
Freiheit wrote:Amir Khan just lost his first round fight 29-20 to Avtandil Kashia from Georgia
So how good is this Georgian?

This seems somehting a shock doesn't it? Does anyone know if its a case of Khan having a "off night", or this Georgian being too good?
Lest we forget, Khan is 17.