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He's not very good. The most massaged record in allegedly's history as a promoter. I'm not even sure he's the best at domestic level. He should have never been allowed near a world level fighter and never should again.

If Carl Johannsen would have been in better shape he would have taken him out... unfortunately, he gassed and Mitchell went on to win due to superior conditioning only - not superior ability.

Happy Slapper wrote:He's not very good. The most massaged record in allegedly's history as a promoter. I'm not even sure he's the best at domestic level. He should have never been allowed near a world level fighter and never should again.

If Carl Johannsen would have been in better shape he would have taken him out... unfortunately, he gassed and Mitchell went on to win due to superior conditioning only - not superior ability.

isn't it funny that so many people slate boxers after their first defeat and then to start to question their ability in the 1st place.

Fact is that like any sportsman Boxers do have off nights, but unfortunately for them it can be quite costly. The trick is how they bounce back and learn from their first defeat.

I agree with others that Kev froze on the night, mainly due to the expectation that was thrust on his shoulders by appearing in front of thousands of fellow West ham fans. But he'll learn how to channel the expectation when it comes his way again.

I actually said before the fight that I thought he was crap and he'd get KO'd early.

Never rated him, and never will.

any word when or if mitchell will fight again?

Happy Slapper wrote:I actually said before the fight that I thought he was crap and he'd get KO'd early.

Never rated him, and never will.

Its quite obvious from your earlier post your still pissed because Johansson lost get over it ya mug!
What's your problem! you got the painters in or what?
"You actually said before the fight" .......Bet you had to rush home and knock one out in all the excitement at getting something correct in your life, i imagine you wish bad crap on a lot people because it helps you feel good about yourself.

PS. your user name speaks volumes

Coffee Aroma wrote:

Happy Slapper wrote:I actually said before the fight that I thought he was crap and he'd get KO'd early.

Never rated him, and never will.

Its quite obvious from your earlier post your still pissed because Johansson lost get over it ya mug!
What's your problem! you got the painters in or what?
"You actually said before the fight" .......Bet you had to rush home and knock one out in all the excitement at getting something correct in your life, i imagine you wish bad crap on a lot people because it helps you feel good about yourself.

PS. your user name speaks volumes

DD

Happy Slapper wrote:I actually said before the fight that I thought he was crap and he'd get KO'd early.

Never rated him, and never will.

You sound a little bitter, crap? Yeah, a british, commonwealth champion and being world ranked must mean your crap yeah? Your post is a little to over emotional.

Des1 wrote:

Happy Slapper wrote:I actually said before the fight that I thought he was crap and he'd get KO'd early.

Never rated him, and never will.

You sound a little bitter, crap? Yeah, a british, commonwealth champion and being world ranked must mean your crap yeah? Your post is a little to over emotional.

Come on rankings mean nothing, anyone can get ranked unfortunately. I think Kevin is British level, no more. He had a really tough fight against Johanneson and never defended that title, which I think says a lot.

whatashambles wrote:

Des1 wrote:

Happy Slapper wrote:I actually said before the fight that I thought he was crap and he'd get KO'd early.

Never rated him, and never will.

You sound a little bitter, crap? Yeah, a British, commonwealth champion and being world ranked must mean your crap yeah? Your post is a little to over emotional.

Come on rankings mean nothing, anyone can get ranked unfortunately. I think Kevin is British level, no more. He had a really tough fight against Johanneson and never defended that title, which I think says a lot.

Ratings mean nothing, really? OK. Yeah, he had no right having a tough fight with a British Champion, and showing character by coming through rocky moments against a heavy handed puncher, and also he had a relatively easy job in outboxing Prescott who completely smashed a current 'World' Champion Amir Khan....Oops, of course that was a fluke though so that doesn't count right?

Tell me, are you saying then that your assesment of Mitchell is the same as 'Happy Slapper' that he is "crap" as I think thats a bit of an over emotional statement.

Des1 wrote:

whatashambles wrote:

Des1 wrote: You sound a little bitter, crap? Yeah, a British, commonwealth champion and being world ranked must mean your crap yeah? Your post is a little to over emotional.

Come on rankings mean nothing, anyone can get ranked unfortunately. I think Kevin is British level, no more. He had a really tough fight against Johanneson and never defended that title, which I think says a lot.

Ratings mean nothing, really? OK. Yeah, he had no right having a tough fight with a British Champion, and showing character by coming through rocky moments against a heavy handed puncher, and also he had a relatively easy job in outboxing Prescott who completely smashed a current 'World' Champion Amir Khan....Oops, of course that was a fluke though so that doesn't count right?

Tell me, are you saying then that your assesment of Mitchell is the same as 'Happy Slapper' that he is "crap" as I think thats a bit of an over emotional statement.

Well he was ranked with the WBO, the same organisation that gave Gary Lockett a shot at the middleweight title and twice moved a dead boxer up in their rankings, so yes rankings mean nothing when they come from the useless governing bodies.
He did well against Johanneson but a win over him and Prescott, who is pretty one dimensional, does not make him world class. He's not crap but I think he's British level, nothing more really. Think Murray, Arthur and Rees would beat him as well

whatashambles wrote:Think Murray, Arthur and Rees would beat him as well

Really? I think him versus Murray is a pick 'em, but I'd take Mitchell to beat the other two. He's better than British level IMO.

whatashambles wrote:

Des1 wrote:

whatashambles wrote: Come on rankings mean nothing, anyone can get ranked unfortunately. I think Kevin is British level, no more. He had a really tough fight against Johanneson and never defended that title, which I think says a lot.

Ratings mean nothing, really? OK. Yeah, he had no right having a tough fight with a British Champion, and showing character by coming through rocky moments against a heavy handed puncher, and also he had a relatively easy job in outboxing Prescott who completely smashed a current 'World' Champion Amir Khan....Oops, of course that was a fluke though so that doesn't count right?

Tell me, are you saying then that your assesment of Mitchell is the same as 'Happy Slapper' that he is "crap" as I think thats a bit of an over emotional statement.

Well he was ranked with the WBO, the same organisation that gave Gary Lockett a shot at the middleweight title and twice moved a dead boxer up in their rankings, so yes rankings mean nothing when they come from the useless governing bodies.
He did well against Johanneson but a win over him and Prescott, who is pretty one dimensional, does not make him world class. He's not crap but I think he's British level, nothing more really. Think Murray, Arthur and Rees would beat him as well

So now you say that Mitchell isn't 'crap'. Got that straight then as thats all what I had the issue about.

Happy Slapper wrote:He's not very good. The most massaged record in allegedly's history as a promoter. I'm not even sure he's the best at domestic level. He should have never been allowed near a world level fighter and never should again.

If Carl Johannsen would have been in better shape he would have taken him out... unfortunately, he gassed and Mitchell went on to win due to superior conditioning only - not superior ability.

What a dreadful, ignorant post. Mitchell has his limitations, but losing to a guy that has been a nightmare for everyone he's faced (and has only lost to the elite of his division) is nothing to be ashamed of.

As for the Johannesen fight... get a grip - Kevin was beating Carl out of sight for until he opted to trade. He got caught, survived the round without going down, then came back to win in stunning fashion. Kevin won that fight with heart, skill and stamina.

Let's see how he comes back before throwing him under a bus. His loss was to a proven terror, unlike Khan's to someone who Mitchell has beaten and hasn't looked anything remarkable since. A loss doesn't define a fighter, how they come back from it does.

fluxstuff wrote:A loss doesn't define a fighter, how they come back from it does.

Well said

fluxstuff wrote:

Happy Slapper wrote:He's not very good. The most massaged record in allegedly's history as a promoter. I'm not even sure he's the best at domestic level. He should have never been allowed near a world level fighter and never should again.

If Carl Johannsen would have been in better shape he would have taken him out... unfortunately, he gassed and Mitchell went on to win due to superior conditioning only - not superior ability.

What a dreadful, ignorant post. Mitchell has his limitations, but losing to a guy that has been a nightmare for everyone he's faced (and has only lost to the elite of his division) is nothing to be ashamed of.

As for the Johannesen fight... get a grip - Kevin was beating Carl out of sight for until he opted to trade. He got caught, survived the round without going down, then came back to win in stunning fashion. Kevin won that fight with heart, skill and stamina.

Let's see how he comes back before throwing him under a bus. His loss was to a proven terror, unlike Khan's to someone who Mitchell has beaten and hasn't looked anything remarkable since. A loss doesn't define a fighter, how they come back from it does.

Good post but sadly a bit deep for some of the bitter and twisted trolls who infest these forums

Before the intelligently challenged begin drooling over, and thumping their keyboards in a desperate attempt to spread their bile; they would do well to remember the wise words of the 16th American president: Abraham Lincoln.

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

fluxstuff wrote:

Happy Slapper wrote:He's not very good. The most massaged record in allegedly's history as a promoter. I'm not even sure he's the best at domestic level. He should have never been allowed near a world level fighter and never should again.

If Carl Johannsen would have been in better shape he would have taken him out... unfortunately, he gassed and Mitchell went on to win due to superior conditioning only - not superior ability.

What a dreadful, ignorant post. Mitchell has his limitations, but losing to a guy that has been a nightmare for everyone he's faced (and has only lost to the elite of his division) is nothing to be ashamed of.

As for the Johannesen fight... get a grip - Kevin was beating Carl out of sight for until he opted to trade. He got caught, survived the round without going down, then came back to win in stunning fashion. Kevin won that fight with heart, skill and stamina.

Let's see how he comes back before throwing him under a bus. His loss was to a proven terror, unlike Khan's to someone who Mitchell has beaten and hasn't looked anything remarkable since. A loss doesn't define a fighter, how they come back from it does.

How anyone can think losing to Katsidis is a terrible indictment is beyond me. He's an incredible little fighter, and was way way more experienced than Mitchell. I think his camp were maybe gambling in Katsidis' career catching up with him, but that proved not to be the case.

Mitchell has nothing to be ashamed of. He is a little shy of world class, but Katsidis is definitely a world class fighter.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

fluxstuff wrote:

Happy Slapper wrote:He's not very good. The most massaged record in allegedly's history as a promoter. I'm not even sure he's the best at domestic level. He should have never been allowed near a world level fighter and never should again.

If Carl Johannsen would have been in better shape he would have taken him out... unfortunately, he gassed and Mitchell went on to win due to superior conditioning only - not superior ability.

What a dreadful, ignorant post. Mitchell has his limitations, but losing to a guy that has been a nightmare for everyone he's faced (and has only lost to the elite of his division) is nothing to be ashamed of.

As for the Johannesen fight... get a grip - Kevin was beating Carl out of sight for until he opted to trade. He got caught, survived the round without going down, then came back to win in stunning fashion. Kevin won that fight with heart, skill and stamina.

Let's see how he comes back before throwing him under a bus. His loss was to a proven terror, unlike Khan's to someone who Mitchell has beaten and hasn't looked anything remarkable since. A loss doesn't define a fighter, how they come back from it does.

How anyone can think losing to Katsidis is a terrible indictment is beyond me. He's an incredible little fighter, and was way way more experienced than Mitchell. I think his camp were maybe gambling in Katsidis' career catching up with him, but that proved not to be the case.

Mitchell has nothing to be ashamed of. He is a little shy of world class, but Katsidis is definitely a world class fighter.

Good post James. it amazes me how many fail to understand how good Katsidis really is, the guy is a monster in the ring and has a lot more ring smarts than people give him credit for, he switched from all out aggressor to tactician, whilst in contrast, Mitchell, when hurt; let his heart rule his head and threw caution to to the wind. The rest is now history and leads us back to the conclusion of Fluxstuff's post "A loss doesn't define a fighter, how they come back from it does"

fluxstuff wrote:

Happy Slapper wrote:He's not very good. The most massaged record in allegedly's history as a promoter. I'm not even sure he's the best at domestic level. He should have never been allowed near a world level fighter and never should again.

If Carl Johannsen would have been in better shape he would have taken him out... unfortunately, he gassed and Mitchell went on to win due to superior conditioning only - not superior ability.

What a dreadful, ignorant post. Mitchell has his limitations, but losing to a guy that has been a nightmare for everyone he's faced (and has only lost to the elite of his division) is nothing to be ashamed of.

As for the Johannesen fight... get a grip - Kevin was beating Carl out of sight for until he opted to trade. He got caught, survived the round without going down, then came back to win in stunning fashion. Kevin won that fight with heart, skill and stamina.

Let's see how he comes back before throwing him under a bus. His loss was to a proven terror, unlike Khan's to someone who Mitchell has beaten and hasn't looked anything remarkable since. A loss doesn't define a fighter, how they come back from it does.

well said fluxstuff