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Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 12 Feb 2011, 19:54
by palooka
Tommy Gunn13 wrote:johnnygreaves wrote:This goes into one of my other posts, I really think a journeyman & a bum are two completely different things. On the frank malony thread people were slagging these boys that go over soon as they take one clean shot. Imo they are the ones that run the risk of being called a bum. A journeyman boxes every other week against up & coming boxers still holding their o, maybe I have rose tinted glasses on but a genuine journeyman brings much to our sport . I only really post on things I think I can talk about with an in depth knowledge , & when it comes to this subject I forgot more than most know
Johnny your a good journeymen,whos well known in the boxing circles(people who follow the game) i dont mean to speak out of turn,but why dont you say to yourself f*ck this im go give it me best&all&see what i can do in a year&see where you get mate?..Im sure if you put all in you will beat many who have beat you...
Tommy; do you think his employers (the promoters) will keep ihim in in work if he knocks the next great flying machine off course?
I've read loads of your posts before and have proper agreed with you; don't you think that Johnny has weighed the idea up himself and made a realistic decision?
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 12 Feb 2011, 20:48
by johnnygreaves
I knew my level before going over mate. Plus I never sold I ticket. If I win a few on the trot I won't fight. I know I've won a lot more than I've been given but I would have never made the top. It's all about money if you want to win regular & get up to title level. I've done a hell of a lot more as a journeyman than I would building meself up. Boxed in front of thousands on massive shows & am proud to be regarded as a top opponent.
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 13 Feb 2011, 03:30
by banjo
Dioufy wrote:I really hate that "I fought and you haven't" attitude. Are you saying that people who HAVEN'T fought don't have valid opinions? If so, then come out and say it instead of hiding behind a smokescreen, shitty response. I have boxed but I would NEVER discredit someone's opinion because they haven't.
It baffles me it does, it like saying you can't criticise Lewis Hamilton because you've never driven a Formula 1 car or you can't criticise Andy McNab because you've never been in the SAS.
DD
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 13 Feb 2011, 08:19
by johnnygreaves
I really haven't got that attitude. Your all boxers or fans & I wouldn't waste my time posting if I thought you don't know your stuff! I just try to give insight into threads I think I know about. I get enough abuse at shows, I dont want to upset you lot too
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 13 Feb 2011, 08:29
by palooka
A mate of mine used to enjoy getting shouted at by the fans.
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 13 Feb 2011, 08:42
by Dioufy
johnnygreaves wrote:I really haven't got that attitude. Your all boxers or fans & I wouldn't waste my time posting if I thought you don't know your stuff! I just try to give insight into threads I think I know about. I get enough abuse at shows, I dont want to upset you lot too
You post a lot and I've never seen that kind of attitude from you, and I'm not even sure if Edwardo has that attitude, it's just how it came acoss in this thread.
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 13 Feb 2011, 09:02
by johnnygreaves
I hope I haven't , other that the truth on the fm thread , everyone seems to know their stuff.
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 13 Feb 2011, 10:04
by philipgill
yid14 wrote:Don't worry Edwardo Lofty will be kissing your arse in another thread.
All this arse kissing is getting gay...... Could be a new thread and the "new arse kisser champion" is ......
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 13 Feb 2011, 10:23
by m1kee50
johnnygreaves wrote:This goes into one of my other posts, I really think a journeyman & a bum are two completely different things. On the frank malony thread people were slagging these boys that go over soon as they take one clean shot. Imo they are the ones that run the risk of being called a bum. A journeyman boxes every other week against up & coming boxers still holding their o, maybe I have rose tinted glasses on but a genuine journeyman brings much to our sport . I only really post on things I think I can talk about with an in depth knowledge , & when it comes to this subject I forgot more than most know
I think you're spot on there... theres a difference between someone who is tricky, hard to hit, gives some good rounds of experience... and someone who eats a lot of shots or falls over quickly. Its like the difference between working a heavy bag or a floor-to-ceiling, any idiot can do the first one but to get the benefit of the second is harder.
As an aside Johnny, did you ever spar go to someone in the Peacock, you wearing 10oz gloves? Just something that was mentioned to me.
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 13 Feb 2011, 12:34
by lefty
philipgill wrote:yid14 wrote:Don't worry Edwardo Lofty will be kissing your arse in another thread.
All this arse kissing is getting gay...... Could be a new thread and the "new arse kisser champion" is ......
His notion of me arse kissing is saying good stuff about frankie gavin who's style im a genuine fan of,thats arse kissing apparantly
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 13 Feb 2011, 12:45
by johnnygreaves
Erm, I don't really spar mate. I talk & get on with everyone there . I may have moved around with people that asked or offered to help boys with a real light move around but never go out to take liberties . I box too often to spar heavily. I won't learn much more , id just be taking shots I don't need to be taking. Would love to know where you heard this story to be honest. I really have never took a liberty in my life when it comes to sparring . Hand on heart
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 13 Feb 2011, 12:49
by johnnygreaves
simon fox wrote:A mate of mine used to enjoy getting shouted at by the fans.
To be honest si , some hecklers really do make me chuckle. Others take it too far. On the whole it don't bother me at all
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 13 Feb 2011, 13:03
by m1kee50
johnnygreaves wrote:Erm, I don't really spar mate. I talk & get on with everyone there . I may have moved around with people that asked or offered to help boys with a real light move around but never go out to take liberties . I box too often to spar heavily. I won't learn much more , id just be taking shots I don't need to be taking. Would love to know where you heard this story to be honest. I really have never took a liberty in my life when it comes to sparring . Hand on heart
probably a different john mate, no offence meant by it.
Someone I know, a big lump but hard to hit, was going to jump in with a John (we'd been discussing your interview in BM, which brought on the anecdote) and he said that the John in question wanted to spar in 10oz gloves, and my acquaintance replied that in case he'd stick with the 16oz but wouldn't hold back as he normally would, which the John in question took umbrage at. As you say, a different John. My acquaintance didn't think it was you but it piqued my curiosity so thought I would ask.
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 13 Feb 2011, 13:16
by johnnygreaves
Matt, really don't mind you asking mate but no , sure it wasn't me.
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 15:16
by edwardo
of course not dioufy.....my old amatuer coach had never boxed an he brought me 6 Amatuer titles an was a excellent coach whos every word i listened to an learnt off....an shut it lefty haha
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 15:28
by lefty
edwardo wrote:of course not dioufy.....my old amatuer coach had never boxed an he brought me 6 Amatuer titles an was a excellent coach whos every word i listened to an learnt off....an shut it lefty haha
id dropped this days ago so dont go bringing it up again
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 15:33
by edwardo
haha im replying to dioufy and just telling you.so turn it in
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 15:36
by lefty
edwardo wrote:haha im replying to dioufy and just telling you.so turn it in
Well i hadnt mentioned it for days so you had no reason to bring it up again
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 15:37
by palooka
you're too easy to wind up lefty pal
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 15:40
by edwardo
i was replying to dioufy
come on lefty whats on your chest....let it out ;;-)
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 15:40
by lefty
simon fox wrote:you're too easy to wind up lefty pal
well i come on here to chat boxing not deal with arrogant boxers who think that because they are boxers that means they know everything.
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 15:41
by lefty
edwardo wrote:i was replying to dioufy
come on lefty whats on your chest....let it out ;;-)
Actually you said lefty shut up so you're talking rubbish
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 15:44
by edwardo
me aggorant/? come on lefty....cos i think u talk poo doesnt mean im arrogant now does it.
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 15:46
by lefty
edwardo wrote: me aggorant/? come on lefty....cos i think u talk poo doesnt mean im arrogant now does it.
Tell me how i talk poo then?Ps the arrogant part is you saying you dont know crap because you've never boxed a round in your life which is what you said
Re: Do prospects get protected too much in boxing generally?
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 15:48
by edwardo
read the thread again an ul c i never wrote that.dont try an twist it ballbag.in my opinion u talk poo
.....but its ok.