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Re: anyone watching tonight?
Posted: 17 Apr 2011, 06:32
by dberry
Sit tight mate, I'll find the pre fight interview where he let slip he was getting "100 000 K" for his last fight.
Re: anyone watching tonight?
Posted: 17 Apr 2011, 06:36
by Brute
He got $530,000 to fight Marquez.
How many title defenses did Katsidis make? He had no title when he fought Guerrero, but he was defending (interim) champion in most of his overseas fights.
Re: anyone watching tonight?
Posted: 17 Apr 2011, 06:46
by dberry
Watch this interview with him, from about the seven and a half minute mark, and that is roughly on the money, the two fights you mention seem right for a main event, WBO title defender with such big risk opposition.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2x1El_R ... r_embedded
Re: anyone watching tonight?
Posted: 17 Apr 2011, 07:02
by Brute
In the interview I heard nothing about money. The interviewer seemed to only want to know about Stathi's death and how it affected Michael. So would you agree on that basis that Michael would have made over a million in his career?
Re: anyone watching tonight?
Posted: 17 Apr 2011, 07:10
by dberry
Brute wrote:So would you agree on that basis that Michael would have made over a million in his career?
Well, obviously looking at the maths, he has made just over a million (U.S.) for those three fights, less at least a third for trainer and manager fees (most likely more), so if you want to be a smart arse, no I wouldn't conceded that he has made a million yet, and if he has, he only
just has. I made this statement to point out that a good, popular world level fighter, apparently at the end of his career, would find it astounding that a mug would claim that a million in boxing is easy money. Now said smart arse mug wants to split fornicating hairs in a perceived pissing contest, bravo.
Re: anyone watching tonight?
Posted: 17 Apr 2011, 08:38
by Da Voice
At that level of income, I'd say Oz taxman would be looking at least 40% cut.
Hence Crocodile Dundee/Paul Hogan situation.
Katsidis is still an Oz citizen, therefore, no matter where it was derived.
I doubt he'll ever return to Oz for other reason & not tax issue.
Re: anyone watching tonight?
Posted: 17 Apr 2011, 09:36
by Mark pawsey
dberry wrote:Brute wrote:Mark pawsey wrote:
Danny Green could say the same thing
Four "contender" fights under Boxa aegis and two main events. Six fights to make a million?
Green fought in three world title or interim world titles fights in Europe and North America before fighting Mundine. He probably earned at least a million before the Mundine fight.
A million is not much in modern boxing.
If it comes to that a million is not much in any business. The average Australian CEO gets paid four or five million a year to run a company into the ground than about 15 million to get rid of him.
I wouldn't deffenitly say that Green did earn a million bucks, before he fought mundine, you say that a million isnt much in modern boxing, but not many fighters earn that much. I bet there is fighters that have won world titles and not earned a million bucks, anyway my point was that, if there was no Mundine, Green not of earned anywhere near what he has, put this way. I dont think he would be fighting on Ozzy PPV, if there was no mundine.
Tell that to, say, Micheal Katsidis, who got $100 000 U.S. for his last fight, and who had to pay for his own opponent on a BOXA show, who won't have earned a million dollars all up, since he left school, with all his pay from all his jobs combined.
Re: anyone watching tonight?
Posted: 17 Apr 2011, 09:50
by dberry
I didn't write that, I'd appreciate it if you didn't put words in my mouth.
Re: anyone watching tonight?
Posted: 17 Apr 2011, 23:36
by madball1982
A million earned in boxing isn't a million in your pocket either once you take out trainer fee's, taxes and then possible expenses, promoter/sanctioning fee's etc.
It probably isn't hard to earn a million over your career, or at least a few fights in world-level boxing but that doesn't mean that the boxer has kept a mill.
Re: anyone watching tonight?
Posted: 18 Apr 2011, 08:05
by Mark pawsey
I've heard of fighters only getting 30 grand for a world title fight
Re: anyone watching tonight?
Posted: 18 Apr 2011, 08:21
by Da Voice
Mark pawsey wrote:I've heard of fighters only getting 30 grand for a world title fight
That's about right for challengers (Champ's voluntary defence)
Commonwealth titlist gets 30k minimum
Most Australian titlists get more than Regional
BTW, when you get a chance can you flick me your & Daniel's pic for Bios.
Re: anyone watching tonight?
Posted: 18 Apr 2011, 09:21
by dberry
Brute wrote:In the interview I heard nothing about money. The interviewer seemed to only want to know about Stathi's death and how it affected Michael. So would you agree on that basis that Michael would have made over a million in his career?
Just noticed that you claim not to hear anything about money, 13.30 mins in. And as for all his title defences, it was tho WBO
interim title he was defending FFS. He would have only made reasonable money against Diaz, Marquez and Mitchel because of their standing and that he had something, albeit a WBO interim title, to the table. Point is, a million dollars is
not easy to make from boxing, as you so flippantly claim it is.
Re: anyone watching tonight?
Posted: 18 Apr 2011, 17:42
by adamheight
Da Voice wrote:At that level of income, I'd say Oz taxman would be looking at least 40% cut.
Hence Crocodile Dundee/Paul Hogan situation.
Katsidis is still an Oz citizen, therefore, no matter where it was derived.
I doubt he'll ever return to Oz for other reason & not tax issue.
so we go from talking about watching a mundine fight to how much katsidis earns within 2 pages of one thread!
anyway, i doubt katsidis is a oz resident for tax purposes. at least not in the last couple years anyway. you need to at least spend some time here as per the ATO website.
Generally, we consider you to be an Australian resident for tax purposes if you:
have always lived in Australia or you have come to Australia to live
have been in Australia for more than half of the income year (unless your usual home is overseas and you do not intend to live in Australia - for example, you are a working holiday maker), or
are an overseas student enrolled in a course of study for more than six months duration.
u should know about this anton, i heard u do ur banking in the cayman islands?