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Re: The best fighter of the 1940s
Posted: 28 Jul 2013, 20:44
by SaadOffTheDeck
Bobbyptsd wrote:Well I meant in that most of you guys seem to know a fair bit about boxing and the history and whatnot.
I've seen some of his posts before, he certainly has some strange views imo.
He isn't without knowledge, he's just brutally biased and unfortunately those are his favorite topics.
Re: The best fighter of the 1940s
Posted: 29 Jul 2013, 14:29
by elmersalsa
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Bobbyptsd wrote:Well I meant in that most of you guys seem to know a fair bit about boxing and the history and whatnot.
I've seen some of his posts before, he certainly has some strange views imo.
He isn't without knowledge, he's just brutally biased and unfortunately those are his favorite topics.
Without knowledge? Brutally biased? Everybody has a bias in 'em.
What are the biased topics? What do you mean? On what you base it upon. I think I know a lot about the history of boxing, maybe not all the history, but I know what I know.
Re: The best fighter of the 1940s
Posted: 29 Jul 2013, 14:31
by elmersalsa
Some people like saad have to grow up in this forum. It does not annoy me what he thinks about me, but he annoys others very much. He is not much more different than that Ronald McDonald clown.
Re: The best fighter of the 1940s
Posted: 30 Jul 2013, 08:36
by Ambling Alp II
I always preferred Mayor McCheese myself; though I know for some people Grimace or Hamburglar was their favorite.
Re: The best fighter of the 1940s
Posted: 31 Jul 2013, 18:42
by Borinken25
Bobbyptsd wrote:Well I meant in that most of you guys seem to know a fair bit about boxing and the history and whatnot.
I've seen some of his posts before, he certainly has some strange views imo.
Elmo loves to discredit Robinson because he wants to convince people that his deity "Duran" is the greatest boxer that ever lived. If you want to hear his rants just mention Benitez vs Duran. He could never accept that Benitez took Duran to school.
Just wait for it.
Re: The best fighter of the 1940s
Posted: 01 Aug 2013, 14:24
by elmersalsa
Borinken25 wrote:
Elmo loves to discredit Robinson because he wants to convince people that his deity "Duran" is the greatest boxer that ever lived. If you want to hear his rants just mention Benitez vs Duran. He could never accept that Benitez took Duran to school.
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I have never rated Duran above Robinson. I said that he was more complete fighter. Benitez took Duran to school with a Duran at the time he was not at his peak. Duran was washed up by 1982.
Re: The best fighter of the 1940s
Posted: 02 Aug 2013, 18:39
by Borinken25
elmersalsa wrote:Borinken25 wrote:
Elmo loves to discredit Robinson because he wants to convince people that his deity "Duran" is the greatest boxer that ever lived. If you want to hear his rants just mention Benitez vs Duran. He could never accept that Benitez took Duran to school.
Just wait for it.
I have never rated Duran above Robinson. I said that he was more complete fighter. Benitez took Duran to school with a Duran at the time he was not at his peak. Duran was washed up by 1982.
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According to you Eusebio Pedroza was also a more complete fighter than Robinson too.
Face it, Benitez took Duran to school that night and there is nothing you could say to change that fact.
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Re: The best fighter of the 1940s
Posted: 04 Aug 2013, 09:43
by elmersalsa
Borinken25 wrote:elmersalsa wrote:Borinken25 wrote:
Elmo loves to discredit Robinson because he wants to convince people that his deity "Duran" is the greatest boxer that ever lived. If you want to hear his rants just mention Benitez vs Duran. He could never accept that Benitez took Duran to school.
Just wait for it.
I have never rated Duran above Robinson. I said that he was more complete fighter. Benitez took Duran to school with a Duran at the time he was not at his peak. Duran was washed up by 1982.
According to you Eusebio Pedroza was also a more complete fighter than Robinson too.
Face it, Benitez took Duran to school that night and there is nothing you could say to change that fact.
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Yes he was. Pedroza was a better inside fighter. Robinson had better speed. Watch them closely.
As of Duran vs Benitez, the fight was in a time when Duran was considered washed up. If you believe that that was Duran's prime, and Duran's weight, and Duran's decade like the 70s, then you are a delusional patriotic bluff.
At least Esteban De Jesus beat Duran in Duran's prime. Did Benitez did it in Duran's prime? Did he wanted Duran then? I think not.
Re: The best fighter of the 1940s
Posted: 05 Aug 2013, 22:43
by SaadOffTheDeck
That wasn't Duran's prime, actually; as a fighter, he was at his best at 147.
Re: The best fighter of the 1940s
Posted: 06 Aug 2013, 00:29
by Chuck1052
I believe that Roberto Duran was at his best as a lightweight. Afterwards, Duran certainly had some success, but often was out of shape and inconsistent.
- Chuck Johnston
Re: The best fighter of the 1940s
Posted: 06 Aug 2013, 12:43
by SaadOffTheDeck
Chuck1052 wrote:I believe that Roberto Duran was at his best as a lightweight. Afterwards, Duran certainly had some success, but often was out of shape and inconsistent.
- Chuck Johnston
He was pretty damn consistent at 147. To me he was just the perfect blend of offense and defense at that point in his career. You can throw in the final DeJesus fight too, but for much of his reign at 135 he used brute force as much as skill.
Re: The best fighter of the 1940s
Posted: 06 Aug 2013, 12:44
by SaadOffTheDeck
elmersalsa wrote:Some people like saad have to grow up in this forum. It does not annoy me what he thinks about me, but he annoys others very much. He is not much more different than that Ronald McDonald clown.
Yes, you're so mature.

Re: The best fighter of the 1940s
Posted: 06 Aug 2013, 13:43
by raylawpc
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Chuck1052 wrote:I believe that Roberto Duran was at his best as a lightweight. Afterwards, Duran certainly had some success, but often was out of shape and inconsistent.
- Chuck Johnston
He was pretty damn consistent at 147. To me he was just the perfect blend of offense and defense at that point in his career. You can throw in the final DeJesus fight too, but for much of his reign at 135 he used brute force as much as skill.
Wasn't it at 147 that he quit against Leonard?
Re: The best fighter of the 1940s
Posted: 06 Aug 2013, 17:39
by elmersalsa
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:elmersalsa wrote:Some people like saad have to grow up in this forum. It does not annoy me what he thinks about me, but he annoys others very much. He is not much more different than that Ronald McDonald clown.
Yes, you're so mature.

Yes!!!, I am!!!
Re: The best fighter of the 1940s
Posted: 06 Aug 2013, 17:41
by SaadOffTheDeck