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Giancarlo wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:I like Wladimir Klitschko, he stays in great shape and is an intelligent and articulate guy - Also, Mrs keithmoonhangover think he's a hunk.

But, Haye is British and I cannot for one minute comprehend a British fight fan, wanting him to get beat.

Haye is a BRITISH Heavyweight World Champion. FFS get behind him and stop hating.

Didn't I read somewhere where you said you were a kiwi?

Brute wrote:

Giancarlo wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:I like Wladimir Klitschko, he stays in great shape and is an intelligent and articulate guy - Also, Mrs keithmoonhangover think he's a hunk.

But, Haye is British and I cannot for one minute comprehend a British fight fan, wanting him to get beat.

Haye is a BRITISH Heavyweight World Champion. FFS get behind him and stop hating.

Didn't I read somewhere where you said you were a kiwi?

New Zealand is like the British Isles with earthquakes.

Wrists wrote:

Glyn Leach wrote:

Wrists wrote:[quoteCan't really argue with that - although I meant from a patriotic viewpoint rather than selling mags. Interesting points you make though.

For the record I reckon Haye sticks around for longer than he says. In his prime and too much money to be made

banjo wrote:

Chambers2 wrote:Any Brit or neutral supporting the BIG Boring robot against the exciting British KO specialist needs their head looking at

IMO

But there is no exciting British KO specialist, he was exciting before stepping up to heavyweight, now he's no more fun to watch than Wlad.

ALI wrote:I dont see why Haye's arrogance is so off-putting to some people that they would go as far as to back Wladimir to win this fight.

Haye might be arrogant, but the majority of what he is saying is true. The Klitschko's have not done good for the heavyweight division or boxing in general, they are cherry-picking their oponents, many of which have been fat slobs and outright bums that just turn up for the payday, they do take their oponents to the cleaners in the contract negotiations. They are both extremely boring to watch, so much so that its really only avid boxing fans that can stand watching their entire fights on live tv. They do have boring personalities, sure they are nice people, but they have no appeal whatsoever.

There is a lot of truth in what Haye is saying, like it or not. He says that he is going to destroy Wlad so bad that the big Ukranian will never want to fight another fight again. I hope he does just that.

Chambers2 wrote:

banjo wrote:

Chambers2 wrote:Any Brit or neutral supporting the BIG Boring robot against the exciting British KO specialist needs their head looking at

IMO

But there is no exciting British KO specialist, he was exciting before stepping up to heavyweight, now he's no more fun to watch than Wlad.

Tell Bonin, Barrett, and Ruiz he isn't a KO specialist

Saying he's as exciting as Wlad is just flat out ridiculous

J-C wrote:

Captain Hook wrote:The forums are full of haters.

Haye is no more arrogant than Naz was. People wanted to see Naz get knocked out, and Khan, and Eubank. I never did.

He is a tremendous fighter. He fought the best at CW, stepped up and since then has hammered Barratt and beaten two former world champs, one of which was 7ft+ and odds on favourite on here to knock him out (Valuev).

He lost to Thompson, took it like a man and came back

He fought smart vs Valuev and when he did decide to unload he had him wobbling.

Ruiz didn't win a minute of a round, and Harrison is his own story. Fight should never have happened.

Haye is going over to Germany to take on Wlad and still gets criticised. He went over there to fight Valuev and got the same stick.

It really leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

I don't agree with everything he and Booth do. I don't think he should retire and bang that drum. He should concentrate on both Klits and go down in history as one of our greatest champs, which he would be should he beat them both.

It's not because he's British, I don't really care about that...you can support a fighter from a different country. I know I do, I love watching Marquez and Hopkins and Mayweather and Manny.

It's because he will take on the best.....Enzo and Mormeck at CW..now Wlad at HW

I'm with Terry, I think he beats both Klits. He's never been out of second gear as a heavyweight.

I really hope he does not retire in October and sticks around for another two years. Even if it's to stick two fingers up to the people on here who hate him and want to see him get knocked out because he's got a big mouth.

But if those people who don't support Haye for what ever reason are 'haters', doesn't calling the Klits lifeless, robotic fighters who have feasted on tiny Europeans and fat Americans make you just as much of a 'hater', when you consider what they have achieved?

I like Haye and Wlad both are deserving of respect

Andypittcov wrote:It's all the hype J-C he'll probably be predicting wlad next week then after the next press conference he'll be back to haye.
I've done it myself, back in my gambling days I've told everyone who will listen to bet on one fighter only to fall into the hype trap as the fight nears and convince myself the other fighter who's closer to my heart is going to win.
I've lost plenty of money doing that.
I'm thinking of having a bet on this, it's a good job I fancy Haye so I don't have to make an effin crazy change come fight night.

MachoMan09 wrote:

Captain Hook wrote:The forums are full of haters.

Haye is no more arrogant than Naz was. People wanted to see Naz get knocked out, and Khan, and Eubank. I never did.

He is a tremendous fighter. He fought the best at CW, stepped up and since then has hammered Barratt and beaten two former world champs, one of which was 7ft+ and odds on favourite on here to knock him out (Valuev).

He lost to Thompson, took it like a man and came back

He fought smart vs Valuev and when he did decide to unload he had him wobbling.

Ruiz didn't win a minute of a round, and Harrison is his own story. Fight should never have happened.

Haye is going over to Germany to take on Wlad and still gets criticised. He went over there to fight Valuev and got the same stick.

It really leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

I don't agree with everything he and Booth do. I don't think he should retire and bang that drum. He should concentrate on both Klits and go down in history as one of our greatest champs, which he would be should he beat them both.

It's not because he's British, I don't really care about that...you can support a fighter from a different country. I know I do, I love watching Marquez and Hopkins and Mayweather and Manny.

It's because he will take on the best.....Enzo and Mormeck at CW..now Wlad at HW

I'm with Terry, I think he beats both Klits. He's never been out of second gear as a heavyweight.

I really hope he does not retire in October and sticks around for another two years. Even if it's to stick two fingers up to the people on here who hate him and want to see him get knocked out because he's got a big mouth.

I don't think people should automatically be labelled as a 'hater' just because they favour Wladimir over Haye. I've never been of the opinion that there's a place for patriotism in boxing. Haye is fighting for himself, just as Wlad is. I've kept a close eye on Wlad since the olympics, I've watched him and his brother fight in Germany on several occasions and I've met him half a dozen or more times and found him to be a really decent guy. I therefore feel more affinity towards Wlad than I do Haye - who I've never met and don't really relate to due to the way he conducts himself in front of the cameras - although, for the most part, I do like Haye's in ring style. I'm certainly not a 'hater'.

Captain Hook wrote:

J-C wrote:

Captain Hook wrote:The forums are full of haters.

Haye is no more arrogant than Naz was. People wanted to see Naz get knocked out, and Khan, and Eubank. I never did.

He is a tremendous fighter. He fought the best at CW, stepped up and since then has hammered Barratt and beaten two former world champs, one of which was 7ft+ and odds on favourite on here to knock him out (Valuev).

He lost to Thompson, took it like a man and came back

He fought smart vs Valuev and when he did decide to unload he had him wobbling.

Ruiz didn't win a minute of a round, and Harrison is his own story. Fight should never have happened.

Haye is going over to Germany to take on Wlad and still gets criticised. He went over there to fight Valuev and got the same stick.

It really leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

I don't agree with everything he and Booth do. I don't think he should retire and bang that drum. He should concentrate on both Klits and go down in history as one of our greatest champs, which he would be should he beat them both.

It's not because he's British, I don't really care about that...you can support a fighter from a different country. I know I do, I love watching Marquez and Hopkins and Mayweather and Manny.

It's because he will take on the best.....Enzo and Mormeck at CW..now Wlad at HW

I'm with Terry, I think he beats both Klits. He's never been out of second gear as a heavyweight.

I really hope he does not retire in October and sticks around for another two years. Even if it's to stick two fingers up to the people on here who hate him and want to see him get knocked out because he's got a big mouth.

But if those people who don't support Haye for what ever reason are 'haters', doesn't calling the Klits lifeless, robotic fighters who have feasted on tiny Europeans and fat Americans make you just as much of a 'hater', when you consider what they have achieved?

I like Haye and Wlad both are deserving of respect

How am I a hater when I said I like 'Wlad' but think he is bad for boxing?

I don't hate the guy, and I would not go out of my way to hope a UK boxer was knocked out because he's cocky.

J-C wrote:

Captain Hook wrote:

J-C wrote: But if those people who don't support Haye for what ever reason are 'haters', doesn't calling the Klits lifeless, robotic fighters who have feasted on tiny Europeans and fat Americans make you just as much of a 'hater', when you consider what they have achieved?

I like Haye and Wlad both are deserving of respect

How am I a hater when I said I like 'Wlad' but think he is bad for boxing?

I don't hate the guy, and I would not go out of my way to hope a UK boxer was knocked out because he's cocky.

'Hater' is not part of my usual vocabulary, I'm not 100% sure what the eff it means if I'm honest.

My point was that you were upset people wanting at Haye to lose due to his mouth (I'm not one of them incidentally) and then listed what he has achieved in his career in response, while at the same time dismissing the Klitschko's careers as having been just feasting on tiny Europeans and fat Americans. I'd be the first to admit that their opponents have not been a murder's row but it's what's been there for the last 10 years and I think they are deserving of respect.

Just seem like a double standard to me is all.

Peace

Captain Hook wrote:

Andypittcov wrote:It's all the hype J-C he'll probably be predicting wlad next week then after the next press conference he'll be back to haye.
I've done it myself, back in my gambling days I've told everyone who will listen to bet on one fighter only to fall into the hype trap as the fight nears and convince myself the other fighter who's closer to my heart is going to win.
I've lost plenty of money doing that.
I'm thinking of having a bet on this, it's a good job I fancy Haye so I don't have to make an effin crazy change come fight night.

Are you talking about me?! It's just the 'hype'

Do me a effing favour pal, read my post again.

Glyn Leach wrote:And be given a knighthood to boot ;;-)

Wrists wrote:

Glyn Leach wrote:And be given a knighthood to boot ;;-)

Wasnt making reference to anyone in particular just our (Brits) like of 'gallant losers' rather than real winners.

Dont tell Rob Palmer about this thread, he'll be on in a minute calling me the 'worst poster of all time'

Autobarn wrote:re the nationalistic angle, would it not be good for britain if haye wins essentially the sport's biggest prize?