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mrpedigree wrote:

mercman wrote:

yiddo14 wrote: Your point about man strength is interesting. It's possible but gypsies in the vast majority mature very early in life. I have always found lads from this background are usually spent by the time they are 27/28. They tend to grow up quick with their lifestyle.
My Mrs also commented that Fury looked an old 22, she saw him as looking about 34 or 35.

How many 7ft tall 18 stone men do you know that only look 22 ?? the man is huge ...he looks like a man

So us all us travlers are fcuked before we hit our mid 20s ?? god help me then

You boys tend to get married young and work from an early age. Having a wife whilst still a teen is a surefire way to age quickly mate!

yiddo14 wrote:

mrpedigree wrote:

mercman wrote:

How many 7ft tall 18 stone men do you know that only look 22 ?? the man is huge ...he looks like a man

So us all us travlers are fcuked before we hit our mid 20s ?? god help me then

You boys tend to get married young and work from an early age. Having a wife whilst still a teen is a surefire way to age quickly mate!

This is true mate ...at such a young age having such a big responsibility of keeping a women fed and sat on her arse can wear most young men down ...oh well least they can cook and clean
We have been known mind to have an hard paper round

supacook2k wrote:i've just read on the bbc that fury wants to challenge for the irish title then defend the british. How is he eligible to fight for the irish title? i understand he represented Ireland as an amateur then they kicked off about him not being eligible so he then represented England. Can anyone explain?

Simple: £££ (or €€€ if you prefer)

supacook2k wrote:i've just read on the bbc that fury wants to challenge for the irish title then defend the british. How is he eligible to fight for the irish title? i understand he represented Ireland as an amateur then they kicked off about him not being eligible so he then represented England. Can anyone explain?

His Dad was born in Ireland, so I don't know if that counts, it does in footy.

The Dark Destroyer wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

supacook2k wrote:i've just read on the bbc that fury wants to challenge for the irish title then defend the british. How is he eligible to fight for the irish title? i understand he represented Ireland as an amateur then they kicked off about him not being eligible so he then represented England. Can anyone explain?

His Dad was born in Ireland, so I don't know if that counts, it does in footy.

Back in the 90s having met an Irishman was enough to qualify you to play for their football team.

I wonder what W@rren said to him afterwards.

I think it's good he's going to fight for the Irish title and then defend his British title.
Klitsckho would hammer him, unfortunatly I don't think he's got the punch to become a world champion, it was a good commanding performance last night, even though he showed that he didn't have a big punch.

carlbcfc wrote:I wonder what W@rren said to him afterwards.

Haha yeh Warren seemed to be having quite a long chat with Fury, I thought here we go, trying to nick Fury now?! haha.

Fury represented Ireland after England didn't he? He left the England/GB set up because Price was rightly getting selected ahead of him and he wanted to get to Beijing, hence the reason why he tried to fight for Ireland. Infact, pretty sure he had a bout for them didn't he before they realised he had no genuine proof of an Irish link?

Anyway, fighting for the Irish title is a mahoosive step down after the British and Commonwealth. Seems like a strange one to me.

yiddo14 wrote:Fury represented Ireland after England didn't he? He left the England/GB set up because Price was rightly getting selected ahead of him and he wanted to get to Beijing, hence the reason why he tried to fight for Ireland. Infact, pretty sure he had a bout for them didn't he before they realised he had no genuine proof of an Irish link?

Anyway, fighting for the Irish title is a mahoosive step down after the British and Commonwealth. Seems like a strange one to me.

He's proud of his Irish roots, which is pretty cool - I'm proud of where I come from as well. I think it'll also improve his marketablility in the States.

yiddo14 wrote:Fury represented Ireland after England didn't he?

I think that he trained with the Ireland team but he did not represent them as he could not verify his irish roots.

There was a problem that they could not prove that his dad was actually born in Ireland.

TJ77 wrote:

mrpedigree wrote:

scotty wrote:Looking at the bigger picture I thought Channel 5 put on a good show and hopefully it will spark a bit of interest amongst the general public and lead to more boxing on terrestrial tv.

Looking at the fight Fury did look awkward and Chisora had him badly hurt in the second. The first thing the pair of them need to sort out though is improving their fitness. They were completely out of gas after the 9th.

I dont know what fight you was watching ,Fury was never hurt in that fight,watch the fight back as he wasn't wobbled or rocked and looked to have a clear head the few times he was caught.
I thought Fury just out fought Chisora 9 out of 12 rounds,he landed the better combos throughout...Fury does look awkward tho but that due to his size of near 7 ft lol
Fury got a good chin and the heart of a lion ,Remember me saying it he will put a beating on david price

I agree he out fought chisora but I do believe he was wobbled in the second but recovered you watch it back he does have a chin but David price would beat him IMO and would show up the massive flaws in his style fury needs a better trainer .

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Agreed Price is better in every department save chin. He hits so much harder than Fury as well.

I would say that Fury was buzzed more than wobbled. His legs never went at all, his eyes were clear as well, and he recovered in an instant. The man definitely holds a shot, and then some.

It amazes me that someone that size can't punch that hard, he prods and pitter-patters. He has fairly good hand speed though and does mix his punches to head and body. Not sure his chin has really been tested yet so who knows what would happen then. I think he needs to work on his conditioning and going to America to train and work with trainers out there will help him massively.

Controversial wrote:It amazes me that someone that size can't punch that hard, he prods and pitter-patters. He has fairly good hand speed though and does mix his punches to head and body. Not sure his chin has really been tested yet so who knows what would happen then. I think he needs to work on his conditioning and going to America to train and work with trainers out there will help him massively.

I agree, it's because his punch technique is so poor. He doesnt turn the shots over properly. A lot his jabs were backhand shots that weren't even scoring shots. He's an arm puncher.

Compare that to Price, who has numbing one shot power. Price turns his bodyweight into the shots.

I noticed that Fury has very spindly legs, which may explain his lack of power also, most punchers have large thighs and calves - look at pacquaio for instance, or Tyson. I think Fury probably never will be a massive puncher, but he can certainly work on improving his punch technique.

jamesmcdonnell wrote: most punchers have large thighs and calves - . .

Sorry mate this simply ent the case,Look at Nigel Benn,Tommy Hearns,McClellan,Julian Jackson all these bangers had thin legs ...the biggest pound4pound punchers don't necessarily have huge legs .

I cant say I like Fury but I think he has improved his skills and certainly his stamina. At this moment in time I think he could go on to fight for the European title but certainly not World. The brothers would be far too much for him. Somebody needs to teach him how to get his full weight behind his punches. He would be lethal if he could punch like David Haye. When Chisora dropped his hands in the corner Fury should have let one rip and sparked him cold. Furys jab is not much more than just a tap whereas the Klitschos have force behind their jabs. Fury left jabs in a similar way to Harrison. As I see it there is a lot of work to be done but at 22 he has time on his side so if he listens and learns he could be quite a force at 25/26 and by that time the Klits may have hung up their gloves.

I think that whilst Fury hasn't got KO power, he has got some power when he lets them go properly. He had enough power to keep Chisora occupied and away from him. So I think Fury has some natural power even though his technique is not 100% proper half the time, he just needs to work with some proper boxing coaches to get him punching properly and he could 'discover' some more power.

hazza80 wrote:Tyson Fury is a joke of a heavweight. And to think this man is the British Heavyweight champion.

It was cringe-worthy watching that last night.

And those who keep saying "he's only 22" etc....you need to take your blinkers off! If he cant even throw proper punches at 22, what makes you think suddenly at 25 he will?

You can tell from a very young age who has the talent to reach the top, and this man certainly won't. Everyone agrees he got beat by Mcdermott, and even last night againt Dellboy, it was embarrasing viewing.

His technique is absolutely awful. He has NO power. He is slow. Terrible footwork.

A joke.

Ok,enough of the positives what about the negatives?

SexySouthPaw wrote:

hazza80 wrote:Tyson Fury is a joke of a heavweight. And to think this man is the British Heavyweight champion.

It was cringe-worthy watching that last night.

And those who keep saying "he's only 22" etc....you need to take your blinkers off! If he cant even throw proper punches at 22, what makes you think suddenly at 25 he will?

You can tell from a very young age who has the talent to reach the top, and this man certainly won't. Everyone agrees he got beat by Mcdermott, and even last night againt Dellboy, it was embarrasing viewing.

His technique is absolutely awful. He has NO power. He is slow. Terrible footwork.

A joke.

Ok,enough of the positives what about the negatives?

Perhaps Hazza needs to spar a couple of rounds with Mr Fury to prove that he is a 'joke'.

He's just dominated The British and Commonwealth champion and has beaten everyone put in front of him.

ed robinson wrote:I'm with crusader, Fury's a very natural, instinctive fighters so he throws shots on the counter that are sometimes all the better for being 'wrong'. They might occasionally be off balance, arm punch swipes but they are also almost impossible to read.

Psychologically he also looked comfortable in there when under pressure, always in control. I don't think Fury lacks power, he landed some lovely chopping right hands but Chisora surprised me with his bravery and durability and Tyson adapted to that and didn't put everything into every shot. The pace was great for heavyweights, a really enjoyable fight that.

Another case of two decent fighters meeting early in their careers and, to me, both improving their standing and learning something by taking the risk.

Thank you Ed. Some sense.

Fury is television and promoters dream. Quotable, affable and with a twinkle in his eye. He filled that London venue, something Chisora could never have done whether motivated or not. He is the most likeable fighter I can remember, you just cannot help warming to him and he is as you say VERY instinctive.

Fought well under pressure when Chisora summoned a big effort.

And he entertains. And this is the entertainment business is it not?

It'll be a fun ride and if he gets done down the road, you know he'll go out swinging unlike one or two other heavyweights I could mention.

mrpedigree wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote: most punchers have large thighs and calves - . .

Sorry mate this simply ent the case,Look at Nigel Benn,Tommy Hearns,McClellan,Julian Jackson all these bangers had thin legs ...the biggest pound4pound punchers don't necessarily have huge legs .

I always thought Tyson had skinny legs as well...

Anyway, Fury's poor. If Chisora would have been in shape he'd have beaten him comfortably. Chisora wobbled him pretty badly in the second round, and I'm convinced Chisora has much of a dig.

Fury will get sparked at some point down the road and it may not even be against anyone particularly good.

Price is the one to watch. No doubt about it.

DavidPayne wrote:

ed robinson wrote:I'm with crusader, Fury's a very natural, instinctive fighters so he throws shots on the counter that are sometimes all the better for being 'wrong'. They might occasionally be off balance, arm punch swipes but they are also almost impossible to read.

Psychologically he also looked comfortable in there when under pressure, always in control. I don't think Fury lacks power, he landed some lovely chopping right hands but Chisora surprised me with his bravery and durability and Tyson adapted to that and didn't put everything into every shot. The pace was great for heavyweights, a really enjoyable fight that.

Another case of two decent fighters meeting early in their careers and, to me, both improving their standing and learning something by taking the risk.

Thank you Ed. Some sense.

Fury is television and promoters dream. Quotable, affable and with a twinkle in his eye. He filled that London venue, something Chisora could never have done whether motivated or not. He is the most likeable fighter I can remember, you just cannot help warming to him and he is as you say VERY instinctive.

Fought well under pressure when Chisora summoned a big effort.

And he entertains. And this is the entertainment business is it not?

It'll be a fun ride and if he gets done down the road, you know he'll go out swinging unlike one or two other heavyweights I could mention.

The venue was not full at all it was half empty.

No argument. Price is the bigger prospect longer term but I doubt he'll be as much fun to follow as Tyson.

The venue was more than half full, I'd say three quarters full for main event.

leforge wrote:

DavidPayne wrote:

ed robinson wrote:I'm with crusader, Fury's a very natural, instinctive fighters so he throws shots on the counter that are sometimes all the better for being 'wrong'. They might occasionally be off balance, arm punch swipes but they are also almost impossible to read.

Psychologically he also looked comfortable in there when under pressure, always in control. I don't think Fury lacks power, he landed some lovely chopping right hands but Chisora surprised me with his bravery and durability and Tyson adapted to that and didn't put everything into every shot. The pace was great for heavyweights, a really enjoyable fight that.

Another case of two decent fighters meeting early in their careers and, to me, both improving their standing and learning something by taking the risk.

Thank you Ed. Some sense.

Fury is television and promoters dream. Quotable, affable and with a twinkle in his eye. He filled that London venue, something Chisora could never have done whether motivated or not. He is the most likeable fighter I can remember, you just cannot help warming to him and he is as you say VERY instinctive.

Fought well under pressure when Chisora summoned a big effort.

And he entertains. And this is the entertainment business is it not?

It'll be a fun ride and if he gets done down the road, you know he'll go out swinging unlike one or two other heavyweights I could mention.

The venue was not full at all it was half empty.

Fury sold tickets. Chisora sold out.

leforge wrote:

DavidPayne wrote:

ed robinson wrote:I'm with crusader, Fury's a very natural, instinctive fighters so he throws shots on the counter that are sometimes all the better for being 'wrong'. They might occasionally be off balance, arm punch swipes but they are also almost impossible to read.

Psychologically he also looked comfortable in there when under pressure, always in control. I don't think Fury lacks power, he landed some lovely chopping right hands but Chisora surprised me with his bravery and durability and Tyson adapted to that and didn't put everything into every shot. The pace was great for heavyweights, a really enjoyable fight that.

Another case of two decent fighters meeting early in their careers and, to me, both improving their standing and learning something by taking the risk.

Thank you Ed. Some sense.

Fury is television and promoters dream. Quotable, affable and with a twinkle in his eye. He filled that London venue, something Chisora could never have done whether motivated or not. He is the most likeable fighter I can remember, you just cannot help warming to him and he is as you say VERY instinctive.

Fought well under pressure when Chisora summoned a big effort.

And he entertains. And this is the entertainment business is it not?

It'll be a fun ride and if he gets done down the road, you know he'll go out swinging unlike one or two other heavyweights I could mention.

The venue was not full at all it was half empty.

Were the empty seats something to do with upset Arsenal fans there leforge?