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Re: Frankie Gavin splits with Arnie

Posted: 05 Sep 2011, 04:06
by JC
Coco wrote:I wasn't aware of the issues with his 'son'

In fairness that def is enough to make a fella want to leave an area and also to lose focus
x2

Wish him all the best for a fresh start in London.

Re: Frankie Gavin splits with Arnie

Posted: 05 Sep 2011, 04:20
by Tommy Gunn13
J-C wrote:
Coco wrote:I wasn't aware of the issues with his 'son'

In fairness that def is enough to make a fella want to leave an area and also to lose focus
x2

Wish him all the best for a fresh start in London.
Think he was with Heffrons sister i read somewhere..

Re: Frankie Gavin splits with Arnie

Posted: 05 Sep 2011, 04:42
by mickey1975
Tommy Gunn13 wrote:
J-C wrote:
Coco wrote:I wasn't aware of the issues with his 'son'

In fairness that def is enough to make a fella want to leave an area and also to lose focus
x2

Wish him all the best for a fresh start in London.
Think he was with Heffrons sister i read somewhere..
I think i read Heffrons sister was pregnant to him and still with him. I think the kid he raised was to an ex. Doesnt he also have a big tatoo of the kids name too?

Re: Frankie Gavin splits with Arnie

Posted: 05 Sep 2011, 05:05
by MightyWarrior
I think Frankie said in the Sep Boxing monthly interview, that maybe the people he hangs around are not ideal, or something like that, which set alarm bells ringing....so that might be behind the reason for a new start down south.
Possibly on Warren's advice......

Re: Frankie Gavin splits with Arnie

Posted: 05 Sep 2011, 05:08
by JamesH
FFS.

I have to be honest, I know the intentions are good but I would rather not see his personal laundry being hung out here in less he chose to do that himself. It's being talked about like Eastenders, with 2 and 2 adding up to 5 in some posts.

Regarding the London move, it's great for me. I'm going to try and get down and see him train as soon as I can get an afternoon off work, I hope he'll be here for a while. Tibbs is a very good trainer and anyone who saw Mitchell fight Prescott will know he can make serious improvements in helping his charges avoid being hit. I know Prescott is raw, but anyone who saw Mitchell fight Johansson or Walter Estrada would have seen his head popped back violently with regularity in both fights. Full respect to Mitchell, but with Gavin, Tibbs has more to work with.

I think Tibbs can aid Frankie’s development and I'd have no problem if in 1, 2 or 3 years Frankie went off to find another trainer. No harm in some variety providing it works, each to their own. When people say Arnie was a strange choice because his own style as a boxer was so different, I just don't agree. George Graham didn't defend as a player but built his entire management career around a solid defence. Do as he says, not as he did.

The move could be the making of Frankie as a pro..... And I maintain the unwavering belief that he'll be a great world champion.

Re: Frankie Gavin splits with Arnie

Posted: 05 Sep 2011, 05:21
by DavidPayne
CEO_Hoodlem wrote:
addi wrote:
CEO_Hoodlem wrote:Gavin has gone with tibbs! Bad move I think, don't think tibbs is the man for frankie.
why.
I don't really rate tibbs, when Kevin got smashed by katsides no1 said tibbs done a bad job but now Kevin beat murray, tibbs has done a good job.
Hahahaha.

You don't rate Tibbs?

Fkk me blue.

Re: Frankie Gavin splits with Arnie

Posted: 05 Sep 2011, 07:03
by Final round
G0mez wrote:
Final round wrote:McCraken works well with Froch beacuse Froch is a determined muthfucka who works his ass off and does what Rob says...
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not sure Gavin is of the same cloth.
McCracken is also a trained chef, it's the route he was going to take post-boxing. He cooked Carl's meals and gave his recipes and things to stick to. I think Frankie could perhaps with some of that approach if his eating is poor.

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That's perfect having a trainer who's clued up on dietary needs.

Re: Frankie Gavin splits with Arnie

Posted: 05 Sep 2011, 09:23
by Counter-puncher
JamesH wrote:FFS.

I have to be honest, I know the intentions are good but I would rather not see his personal laundry being hung out here in less he chose to do that himself. .
gavin gave the info himself in a BM interview this month

Re: Frankie Gavin splits with Arnie

Posted: 05 Sep 2011, 09:31
by JamesH
Counter-puncher wrote:
JamesH wrote:FFS.

I have to be honest, I know the intentions are good but I would rather not see his personal laundry being hung out here in less he chose to do that himself. .
gavin gave the info himself in a BM interview this month
Ah fair enough, didn't see that :TU:

Re: Frankie Gavin splits with Arnie

Posted: 05 Sep 2011, 10:35
by whiskey
good luck Frankie in whatever route you take mate :TU:

Re: Frankie Gavin splits with Arnie

Posted: 05 Sep 2011, 11:53
by Londonirish
G0mez wrote:good luck Frankie in whatever route you take mate :TU:

Down Johhny Eames TKO Gym Training with Tibbs.. If your going to leave you trainer then there aint a Better man to go with the Tibss :TU:

Re: Frankie Gavin splits with Arnie

Posted: 05 Sep 2011, 11:58
by DavidPayne
Londonirish wrote:
G0mez wrote:good luck Frankie in whatever route you take mate :TU:

Down Johhny Eames TKO Gym Training with Tibbs.. If your going to leave you trainer then there aint a Better man to go with the Tibss :TU:
Tell the bloke further up who doesn't rate Tibbs.


:KO:

Re: Frankie Gavin splits with Arnie

Posted: 05 Sep 2011, 12:32
by J
TIBBS IS A GREAT TRAINER LOOK AT HIS RECORD!

Benn was a far superior fighter once he moved to Jimmy.

As for Frankie..good luck but im getting bored of hearing excuses after giving it the big un.

time to walk the walk mate.

Re: Frankie Gavin splits with Arnie

Posted: 05 Sep 2011, 12:37
by Arnie
MachoMan09 wrote:This is almost certainly the right move and given Gavin's woeful performances in his last two outings it was an inevitability - as I wrote at the time. Farnell will likely take this hard but it is part of the learning process and however down he feels today, it will be no worse than how Brian Hughes felt when he (Arnie) chose to move to pastures new. Gavin, in my view, needs somebody to get a grip of him. He's got all the talent in the world but he's a prat, you could see that by the way he was conducting himself when he and Farnell were being interviewed by that lass from FWTV before his last fight and his general conduct in the run up to that event. He needs to get serious and that will require a disciplinarian to be brought in - Tibbs is, therefore, ideal.
Good point m8 I know where ur coming from with that one but the difference is I live in the gym & give 100% to all my fighters.
ps but I take ur point m8.

Re: Frankie Gavin splits with Arnie

Posted: 05 Sep 2011, 12:42
by jessi
good luck to both frankie and arnie, im a huge fan of you both and was abit shocked to here the news after the reviews frankie gives about arnie, good luck again fellas :TU:

Re: Frankie Gavin splits with Arnie

Posted: 05 Sep 2011, 12:42
by Old bones Ian
People go on about Frankie needing a disciplinarian, but he's a grown man and knows the difference between right and wrong when it comes to training and dieting.

Its down to Frankie to be his own disciplinarian.
Also he hates flying , so no chance of him getting to America for a spell in their gyms.

Re: Frankie Gavin splits with Arnie

Posted: 05 Sep 2011, 12:43
by Counter-puncher
Arnie wrote:
MachoMan09 wrote:This is almost certainly the right move and given Gavin's woeful performances in his last two outings it was an inevitability - as I wrote at the time. Farnell will likely take this hard but it is part of the learning process and however down he feels today, it will be no worse than how Brian Hughes felt when he (Arnie) chose to move to pastures new. Gavin, in my view, needs somebody to get a grip of him. He's got all the talent in the world but he's a prat, you could see that by the way he was conducting himself when he and Farnell were being interviewed by that lass from FWTV before his last fight and his general conduct in the run up to that event. He needs to get serious and that will require a disciplinarian to be brought in - Tibbs is, therefore, ideal.
Good point m8 I know where ur coming from with that one but the difference is I live in the gym & give 100% to all my fighters.
ps but I take ur point m8.
classy response, you're a good guy arnie :TU:

Re: Frankie Gavin splits with Arnie

Posted: 05 Sep 2011, 12:47
by jessi
Old bones Ian wrote:People go on about Frankie needing a disciplinarian, but he's a grown man and knows the difference between right and wrong when it comes to training and dieting.

Its down to Frankie to be his own disciplinarian.
Also he hates flying , so no chance of him getting to America for a spell in their gyms.
the hates flying bit is a joke, he travelled the world as an amateur for years !

Re: Frankie Gavin splits with Arnie

Posted: 05 Sep 2011, 12:48
by J
agreed CP and that the best way to learn movign froward as well being open....never realised how young Arnie was also (not saying you look old ate) just never realised you retired at 26!!!! Arnie is only 33 so in trainers terms has it all in front of him :TU:

Re: Frankie Gavin splits with Arnie

Posted: 05 Sep 2011, 12:49
by J
jessi wrote:
Old bones Ian wrote:People go on about Frankie needing a disciplinarian, but he's a grown man and knows the difference between right and wrong when it comes to training and dieting.

Its down to Frankie to be his own disciplinarian.
Also he hates flying , so no chance of him getting to America for a spell in their gyms.
the hates flying bit is a joke, he travelled the world as an amateur for years !
i oftten wondered how calazsge used to get to sardinia but was apparently afraid to fly to America..then was ringside for de la hoya mosely ii :oo :lol:

its a long swim. :shame:

Re: Frankie Gavin splits with Arnie

Posted: 05 Sep 2011, 13:06
by Counter-puncher
J wrote:
jessi wrote:
Old bones Ian wrote:People go on about Frankie needing a disciplinarian, but he's a grown man and knows the difference between right and wrong when it comes to training and dieting.

Its down to Frankie to be his own disciplinarian.
Also he hates flying , so no chance of him getting to America for a spell in their gyms.
the hates flying bit is a joke, he travelled the world as an amateur for years !
i oftten wondered how calazsge used to get to sardinia but was apparently afraid to fly to America..then was ringside for de la hoya mosely ii :oo :lol:

its a long swim. :shame:

joe always did have good stamina :TU:

Re: Frankie Gavin splits with Arnie

Posted: 05 Sep 2011, 13:11
by orbtastic
OFM article quoted him as saying he would tranquilize himself with alcohol and pills.

Re: Frankie Gavin splits with Arnie

Posted: 05 Sep 2011, 13:12
by J
that might explain the slow start against hopkins! :lol: :lol:

Re: Frankie Gavin splits with Arnie

Posted: 05 Sep 2011, 13:50
by Deserter
Counter-puncher wrote:
Arnie wrote:
MachoMan09 wrote:This is almost certainly the right move and given Gavin's woeful performances in his last two outings it was an inevitability - as I wrote at the time. Farnell will likely take this hard but it is part of the learning process and however down he feels today, it will be no worse than how Brian Hughes felt when he (Arnie) chose to move to pastures new. Gavin, in my view, needs somebody to get a grip of him. He's got all the talent in the world but he's a prat, you could see that by the way he was conducting himself when he and Farnell were being interviewed by that lass from FWTV before his last fight and his general conduct in the run up to that event. He needs to get serious and that will require a disciplinarian to be brought in - Tibbs is, therefore, ideal.
Good point m8 I know where ur coming from with that one but the difference is I live in the gym & give 100% to all my fighters.
ps but I take ur point m8.
classy response, you're a good guy arnie :TU:
x2 These are all just 'growing pains' for Arnie and as strange as it may sound, it's these types of experiences that will potentially see him go from strength to strength. To paraphrase an old saying, it's not about how you get knocked down, it's about how you get back up :TU:

Re: Frankie Gavin splits with Arnie

Posted: 05 Sep 2011, 13:58
by J
BINGO THERE YOU GO!