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Re: Is Kell Brook a victim of hype ??
Posted: 09 Oct 2011, 10:10
by los2
mrpedigree wrote:los2 wrote:mrpedigree wrote:Anyone one else feel that feel that Kell Brook is victim of hype ??
Kell ent no Nas as Nas would have a bum like Rafal Jackiewicz with 9 losses laid out stiff in 20 seconds lol
from the man who hypes up tyson fury
read back through my posts...when have i hyped Tyson Fury as world class like Brook is getting Hyped ?? show me where i have done that ?? Fury ent world class i say it again..but hes the best domestically imo

you think fury beats haye?
Re: Is Kell Brook a victim of hype ??
Posted: 09 Oct 2011, 10:48
by NazNaci1
Boxing Pirate wrote:Yet another thread where people are moaning and criticising for the sake of it.
This forum is going down hill because it seems to continually thrive on the negative sh@t.
I think, personally, Joe Public might buy into all this type of stuff (I remember Warren having the audacity to call Salita a 'puncher'
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). However, here, on a Boxing Forum, don't expect the same reaction. If you can understand that some of us have followed boxing for years, decades in some cases and some have boxed, then you might go some way to understanding that you can't fool the genuine boxing fans all of the time.
Not sure if your affiliated with any promoters, if you are, don't take it personally. Look to make it better

Re: Is Kell Brook a victim of hype ??
Posted: 09 Oct 2011, 10:55
by LeedsLad
^^^
Pretty much this.
It's the reason why we are on forums discussing the game with like minded fans, as opposed to being the one amongst your group of mates who isn't impressed when (say) some unbeaten African comes over with a pretty looking record, and ends up being banged out in about 7 seconds.
Re: Is Kell Brook a victim of hype ??
Posted: 09 Oct 2011, 11:20
by CiganoBoxer
los2 wrote:
you think fury beats haye?
I thought Haye was at world level ?

...and no i dont

Re: Is Kell Brook a victim of hype ??
Posted: 09 Oct 2011, 11:36
by CiganoBoxer
I ent being negative ,It just puzzles me when we the British start hyping a young fighter whens he not fought nobody ...you got idiots on here saying he will beat the likes of Berto and Ortiz

..and dint someone mention Mosley ?

..please enlighten me ...on what bases are we basing he beats any of those guys ?

...on him landing two meaning full shots last night against "Rafal Jackiewicz" and the ref waving it off to bolster Brooks KO% some more ? Thats not a proper stoppage thats BS !
I dont jump on the hype train unless they look blatantly talented (like Nas) or until they actually fight somebody worth a squirt of P!SS !
BTW IMHO Mosley could be 65 years old and still come out of retirement and smoke the likes of brooks boots
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Re: Is Kell Brook a victim of hype ??
Posted: 09 Oct 2011, 11:41
by SpecialJC
Kell would smash mosely hes too slow and his powers gone,kells lightning fast the best footwork their is and much more exsplosive hed shatter khans chin aswell.
Re: Is Kell Brook a victim of hype ??
Posted: 09 Oct 2011, 12:33
by Yes We Can
SpecialJC wrote:Kell would smash mosely hes too slow and his powers gone,kells lightning fast the best footwork their is and much more exsplosive hed shatter khans chin aswell.
Mosely hasn't lost his power. he briefly rattled little Floyd, it takes more than an average powered fighter to do that.
Mosely would be a winnable fight, yet a dangerous one.
Re: Is Kell Brook a victim of hype ??
Posted: 09 Oct 2011, 12:37
by SpecialJC
You cant hit kell if you cant catch him which mosely would struggle to do and moselys never fought anyone like kell ,mosley would be getting hit with shots from everywhere and he dosent have have average puching power he has massive punching power like hes shown thus far in his career.
Re: Is Kell Brook a victim of hype ??
Posted: 09 Oct 2011, 14:44
by TheCobra
SpecialJC wrote:You cant hit kell if you cant catch him which mosely would struggle to do and moselys never fought anyone like kell ,mosley would be getting hit with shots from everywhere and he dosent have have average puching power he has massive punching power like hes shown thus far in his career.
Get out of Kel Brook's arse mate! Bored of reading it now! We get the idea you go his gym, you are all loved up, give it a rest for 5 mins haha!
Re: Is Kell Brook a victim of hype ??
Posted: 09 Oct 2011, 14:48
by LeedsLad
Shane has had his day, but fornicating hell...... he could end this fight with one shot, Brook doesn't have the power to discourage him, which is obviously key these days with him being more and more a gunslinger.
Re: Is Kell Brook a victim of hype ??
Posted: 09 Oct 2011, 15:16
by los2
mrpedigree wrote:I ent being negative
you were.... you kept saying brook is a "Bum"
Re: Is Kell Brook a victim of hype ??
Posted: 09 Oct 2011, 15:30
by Jon Saxon
I want Brook to be better than he is.
Re: Is Kell Brook a victim of hype ??
Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 04:33
by dondada
MightyWarrior wrote: Kel beats up yet another hapless palooka.
Come on, MW...bit harsh that. It's not as if the chap was a nobody. Sub-world class, obviously, but made to look really bad by a good prospect.
Re: Is Kell Brook a victim of hype ??
Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 04:59
by MightyWarrior
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:MightyWarrior wrote: Kel beats up yet another hapless palooka.
Come on, MW...bit harsh that. It's not as if the chap was a nobody. Sub-world class, obviously, but made to look really bad by a good prospect.
Ok, maybe it was Sky's constant hyping of the fight as a major breakthrough that caused me to be a bit harsh on him - but he was throwing something like 12 punches in a few of the rounds - he looked like a middle aged journey man just there for the pay day. Kel is good, no doubt about that, but I'm not sure he's
that good just yet.
Re: Is Kell Brook a victim of hype ??
Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 05:36
by jimcook
stoppage was idiotic. everybody who watches knows it wasnt a genuine ko. very unfair on rj ...he went all those fights and must have been proud of the fact that he was never stopped. he deserved better treatment from the ref
Re: Is Kell Brook a victim of hype ??
Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 05:38
by Jon Saxon
mrpedigree wrote:los2 wrote:
you think fury beats haye?
I thought Haye was at world level ?

...and no i dont

The dumbest post EVER on BOXREC.
Re: Is Kell Brook a victim of hype ??
Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 05:40
by Jon Saxon
SpecialJC wrote:Kell would smash mosely hes too slow and his powers gone,kells lightning fast the best footwork their is and much more exsplosive hed shatter khans chin aswell.
Naive person no one "smashes" Mosley.
In fact even at 41 Mosely puts him to sleep within 6.
Re: Is Kell Brook a victim of hype ??
Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 06:46
by dondada
MightyWarrior wrote:Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:MightyWarrior wrote: Kel beats up yet another hapless palooka.
Come on, MW...bit harsh that. It's not as if the chap was a nobody. Sub-world class, obviously, but made to look really bad by a good prospect.
Ok, maybe it was Sky's constant hyping of the fight as a major breakthrough that caused me to be a bit harsh on him - but he was throwing something like 12 punches in a few of the rounds - he looked like a middle aged journey man just there for the pay day. Kel is good, no doubt about that, but I'm not sure he's
that good just yet.
Oh aye, agreed mate...but was there something in Brook that made him look as bad as a journeyman? RJ seemed to do f**k all...
Re: Is Kell Brook a victim of hype ??
Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 08:23
by CiganoBoxer
Jon Saxon wrote:mrpedigree wrote:los2 wrote:
you think fury beats haye?
I thought Haye was at world level ?

...and no i dont

The dumbest post EVER on BOXREC.
Wow thats a bit rich coming from you Jon as The dumbest post on boxrec was that one you made where you went squealing/grassing to the mods to get someone banned for cyber bulling you

...u must of forgot about that u big grass
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Re: Is Kell Brook a victim of hype ??
Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 08:29
by dondada
"Give best, Jon! Give best!"
Re: Is Kell Brook a victim of hype ??
Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 08:34
by danfoster
mrpedigree wrote:Jon Saxon wrote:mrpedigree wrote:
I thought Haye was at world level ?

...and no i dont

The dumbest post EVER on BOXREC.
Wow thats a bit rich coming from you Jon as The dumbest post on boxrec was that one you made where you went squealing/grassing to the mods to get someone banned for cyber bulling you

...u must of forgot about that u big grass
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How embarrassing for all concerned.
Re: Is Kell Brook a victim of hype ??
Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 08:51
by Pugilist-specialist
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Re: Is Kell Brook a victim of hype ??
Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 11:28
by Jon Saxon
mrpedigree wrote:Jon Saxon wrote:mrpedigree wrote:
I thought Haye was at world level ?

...and no i dont

The dumbest post EVER on BOXREC.
Wow thats a bit rich coming from you Jon as The dumbest post on boxrec was that one you made where you went squealing/grassing to the mods to get someone banned for cyber bulling you

...u must of forgot about that u big grass
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Pure unfermented smegma.
Re: Is Kell Brook a victim of hype ??
Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 11:38
by SpecialJC
Jon Saxon wrote:SpecialJC wrote:Kell would smash mosely hes too slow and his powers gone,kells lightning fast the best footwork their is and much more exsplosive hed shatter khans chin aswell.
Naive person no one "smashes" Mosley.
In fact even at 41 Mosely puts him to sleep within 6.
Haha dont think so kell wins UD he would never be able to cope with his style and ability kell would just be able to control him he's not as exsplosive as he was in the past kell is kell could probably stop him late on.
Re: Is Kell Brook a victim of hype ??
Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 11:53
by jabnmove
kell's been ranked high by different gov bodies for some time I think he still has a high one with the warren boxing organsiation and is high with the wba. It isn't anything new but he's ranked high in a tough division and i'm guessing his trainers don't want him rushed in at the top in a division full of stars. Ortiz, Berto are not even the best in their division and would still be too strong for Kell right now. He's just unlucky he's not a natural light-middle as i think he would already be a world champ by now. He's not going to get any better than he is right now as he is already pretty class but pretty class only wins you world titles in easier divisions.