BoxRec

yid14 wrote:I think Katsidis in 4 rounds. What I find incredible is Boxrecs world lightweight ratings Katsidis at 13, Burns who's just moved up from super feather at 12 ( ) and Mitchell at 6 ( ????) Great for records but do boxrec have an 8 year old doing there ratings?

JDC wrote:This thread wont have helped the odds on Katsidis. Think about it

MightyWarrior wrote:

SteveDow wrote:I've backed Katsidis in a treble alongside Groves to beat Smith and Chisora to beat Big Larry. Odds of 2.6 with Betfred. Reckon Groves and Chisora are virtual certainties and Katsidis should have way to much for Burns.

Be interesting to see how that comes off.....Groves should win, but Smith is a very live under dog, so that's a probable, but not a cert...Chisora looks a dead cert - and Kat/Burns could go wrong for the Aussie too. Surely his only chance here is to knock Burns out cold - and that might not happen, as Ricky has been in with decent hitters like Carl J and Gomez - and while they are nowhere near the class of the Aussie, they hit hard enough to show that Burns has a decent chin ( think he was down against Arthur though...body shots was it ? )
Kat's face tends to mark up badly, so Burns has a chance to get the late TKO, if he can fend off Kat for the first half.

Hagler2002 wrote:

G0mez wrote:Apparently Burns looking terrific at 135 Hagler

There hardly going to say he looks terrible are they

MightyWarrior wrote:

SteveDow wrote:I've backed Katsidis in a treble alongside Groves to beat Smith and Chisora to beat Big Larry. Odds of 2.6 with Betfred. Reckon Groves and Chisora are virtual certainties and Katsidis should have way to much for Burns.

Be interesting to see how that comes off.....Groves should win, but Smith is a very live under dog, so that's a probable, but not a cert...Chisora looks a dead cert - and Kat/Burns could go wrong for the Aussie too. Surely his only chance here is to knock Burns out cold - and that might not happen, as Ricky has been in with decent hitters like Carl J and Gomez - and while they are nowhere near the class of the Aussie, they hit hard enough to show that Burns has a decent chin ( think he was down against Arthur though...body shots was it ? )
Kat's face tends to mark up badly, so Burns has a chance to get the late TKO, if he can fend off Kat for the first half.

SteveDow wrote:

MightyWarrior wrote:

SteveDow wrote:I've backed Katsidis in a treble alongside Groves to beat Smith and Chisora to beat Big Larry. Odds of 2.6 with Betfred. Reckon Groves and Chisora are virtual certainties and Katsidis should have way to much for Burns.

Be interesting to see how that comes off.....Groves should win, but Smith is a very live under dog, so that's a probable, but not a cert...Chisora looks a dead cert - and Kat/Burns could go wrong for the Aussie too. Surely his only chance here is to knock Burns out cold - and that might not happen, as Ricky has been in with decent hitters like Carl J and Gomez - and while they are nowhere near the class of the Aussie, they hit hard enough to show that Burns has a decent chin ( think he was down against Arthur though...body shots was it ? )
Kat's face tends to mark up badly, so Burns has a chance to get the late TKO, if he can fend off Kat for the first half.

I genuinely don't give Smith much of a chance against Groves. He's not big enough at super-middleweight and he's facing a guy who hits harder, is more skillful and applies lots of pressure. I only give Smith a slight punchers chance and even then he'd need a hail mary to stop Groves.
Chisora will almost certainly stop Larry early and Katsidis (if he's anywhere near his best) should be too big for Burns who is overrated following the Martinez win.

Lenny wrote:Burns is still a bit of an unknown for me. He is capable of boxing very well and maybe has enough of a dig to stop himself being walked through. But I don't think he can keep his concentration and workrate going for all 12 rounds against someone this dangerous and full on, if a bit predictable

Katsides holds most of the aces but I still appreciate what Coco said. Sure C-P, it wasn't a hammering against Guerrero but Katsides has had a pretty hard career.

Katsides to get to him before round 8 but no way would I be confident to risk 2k on it.

And why hasn't Billy Nelson bit yet?

DaveBoyMorrison wrote:I disagree regarding Katsidis fight with Gurerro. He took an utter pounding in there, so much so that we could hardly watch. I am a big Katsidis fan but I hope Burns fights the fight of his life and pulls it out the bag, it will silence the naysayers and hopefully put Hagler out the game.

Hagler2002 wrote:

DaveBoyMorrison wrote:I disagree regarding Katsidis fight with Gurerro. He took an utter pounding in there, so much so that we could hardly watch. I am a big Katsidis fan but I hope Burns fights the fight of his life and pulls it out the bag, it will silence the naysayers and hopefully put Hagler out the game.

It's my game I make the rules no fornicator is putting me out of anything

billy bessey wrote:

Hagler2002 wrote:Well not quite But I've a big chunk of cash on this, more than I can actually afford to lose but it's like buying money.

If this turns out to be a repeat of the Martinez fight I have a one way ticket to the poor house.

Come on Micky, do it for England

I can remember a wise old man telling me to never bet more than a 1/10 of what you can afford on any one bet what happened???

Trojans44 wrote:I think your all massively overrating katsidis. I think burns will win comfortably.

TheCobra wrote: I think Hagler is prone to a bit of exaggeration on his best and prices he got etc, but I do think it's a decent bet.

Trojans44 wrote:I think your all massively overrating katsidis. I think burns will win comfortably.

Livingstone Cole wrote:I've got £100 on Katsidis by decision. That's all the gambling money for the month.

Hagler2002 wrote:Come on Micky smash his wee bollox in

Not quite 2k but I've £550 on the KO win @ 2/1 and 450 on the outright @ 9/10

If Katsidis wins, I'll take you out for a slap up meal on Monday night Billy Nelson out of my winnings as I'm up in Glasgow repossessing a couple of motors.