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Bobby A. wrote:Thanks for your insights, Beaujack. Patterson had his critics who felt that he adopted a victim mentality and was a very different person when the cameras were not around. I wonder very much about this.

Bobby A. wrote:Regarding Patterson, I read a lot about him. Most of it was very positive and a real tribute to him. However, a Sports Illustrated article from the 60's described him as being grim almost to the point of surly in private. SI also said that Patterson did not act genuine in interviews cause he wanted people to like him.
Also , Cosell said Patterson's reactions to his defeats was calculated to get people to sympathize with him. Again, I just want to emphasize that almost everything else I read in my research-and I have read a lot-was very favorable towards Patterson.

Tinnie wrote:Hi Beau,

Did you ever dine at Jack Dempsey's Restaurant and meet The Manassa Mauler himself?

Cheers

beaujack wrote:

Ezzard wrote:Hi beaujack

What was the first fight you remember seeing? Also, your first truly great fighter?

As a little boy ,my family lived next door to a trainer of the great LH Champ John Henry Lewis.
Most every night I would go next door and spar with stablemates of JH Lewis. I never saw him in the apartment, but I would spar and eat salads with oil, with his stablemates. After I grew a little older I was hooked on boxing's great history. My dad who boxed in smokers as a youngster ,saw Benny Leonard and he saw the GREAT Harry Greb administer a tremendous beating to Gene Tunney in 1922, MSG. He would say to me that Tunney was bathed in blood in their first bout in 1922.
He would take me to the Golden Gloves Amateur bouts in NY. But my first pro main event i saw ringside was at St. Nicks Arena in NY,where a new SENSATION named Beau Jack from Georgia,
met a TOUGH older friend of Rocky Graziano, named Terry Young [Angelo DeSanza]. What a great bout that was between two pit bulls...Jack got the decision, and I later saw Beau Jack become LW champion. So my first pro main event was one of the best fights I ever saw.
As for the first great fighter I as a youngster ever saw ? Well My dad and I saw Ray Robinson
"carry" his idol, fading Henry Armstrong in MSG 1943.We in the audience sensed that Robinson never went all out against Armstrong. It was a dull bout between these two immortals.
But about 1 year later we watched a prime Ray Robinson flatten a tough Calfornian Jimmy McDaniels
with a barrage of punches so amazingly fast and powerful. Ray Robinson at WW was the greatest fighter I EVER saw, followed by Willie Pep who I saw at his peak outclass a tough lightweight boxer Allie Stolz in 1943. Willie Pep before his near fatal plane crash had to be seen to be believed. He anticipated his opponent's next move, was the second best fighter I ever saw in the 1940s "golden age" of boxing. Hope I answered your questions Ezzard ?

Tinnie wrote:Hi Beau,

Did you ever dine at Jack Dempsey's Restaurant and meet The Manassa Mauler himself?

Cheers

Bobby A. wrote:Beaujack: Did you see Sugar Ray fight Gavilan, Belloise or Georgie Abrams?

beaujack wrote:

Tinnie wrote:Hi Beau,

Did you ever dine at Jack Dempsey's Restaurant and meet The Manassa Mauler himself?

Cheers

No I never dined at Jack Dempsey's restaurant on B'wy,when I would go to MSG with my dad we would go to the Garden Cafeteria,across the street from the old MSG.
But one sunny afternoon,passing Dempsey's Restaurant I saw him sitting at a window table chatting. I was a couple inches away seperated by the glass window,when the great man got up faced us outside and waved a ham sized fist at us outside. I still remember the size of his large hands and his full blue-black hair...Looking inside the restaurant I saw the giant mural painted on his wall of him and Willard by artist George Bellow...I have a small copy on my office wall...

Cus D'Amato wrote:beaujack What 's your take on the Klitschkos?

Bobby A. wrote:Beaujack: Did you ever attend any ballpark fights in the 40's?

raylawpc wrote:

beaujack wrote:

Tinnie wrote:Hi Beau,

Did you ever dine at Jack Dempsey's Restaurant and meet The Manassa Mauler himself?

Cheers

No I never dined at Jack Dempsey's restaurant on B'wy,when I would go to MSG with my dad we would go to the Garden Cafeteria,across the street from the old MSG.
But one sunny afternoon,passing Dempsey's Restaurant I saw him sitting at a window table chatting. I was a couple inches away seperated by the glass window,when the great man got up faced us outside and waved a ham sized fist at us outside. I still remember the size of his large hands and his full blue-black hair...Looking inside the restaurant I saw the giant mural painted on his wall of him and Willard by artist George Bellow...I have a small copy on my office wall...

Beau, James Montgomery Flagg painted the Dempsey-Willard mural, not George Bellow. Bellow painted the famous Dempsey-Firpo painting.

beaujack wrote:

Bobby A. wrote:Beaujack: Did you see Sugar Ray fight Gavilan, Belloise or Georgie Abrams?

Bobby I did not see Ray Robinson flatten the great punching Steve Belloise, or Gavilan or Georgie Abrams. But I saw Marcel Cerdan decision the tough Georgie Abrams MSG, 1946. I did see Gavilan fight at MSG, but not against Robinson. I saw Ray Robinson, by far the best fighter I ever saw
against a faded Henry Armstrong,and several other times, most notably against Randy Turpin at the Polo Grounds....

beaujack wrote:

Bobby A. wrote:Beaujack: Did you see Sugar Ray fight Gavilan, Belloise or Georgie Abrams?

Bobby I did not see Ray Robinson flatten the great punching Steve Belloise, or Gavilan or Georgie Abrams. But I saw Marcel Cerdan decision the tough Georgie Abrams MSG, 1946. I did see Gavilan fight at MSG, but not against Robinson. I saw Ray Robinson, by far the best fighter I ever saw
against a faded Henry Armstrong,and several other times, most notably against Randy Turpin at the Polo Grounds....