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Mark, you're welcome to call John Hogg for explanation. What I stated in this forum, is only basics from the days I was a member of ratings committee......1994 - 2000....When late Don Marks was the chief & ratings committe (not directors) had the final say, whether it's sanction or not.

Mark pawsey wrote:I think the Australian title is a good title, but if you go on the website it doesn't say how the fighters are rated & why certain fighters are rated, until it does how can you go bagging regional titles? Show how the ANBF ratings are fair?

Mark, that'll never happen, cos the current Ratings Chairman is an ego controlled self centred goose who thinks the sport is all about him, that's why he was prepared to break their own rules, simply because he alone, did not like this fight, he was even prepared to cause the ANBF considerable trouble, possibly even in the courts, but this time, they picked the wrong bloke,he would have wiped the floor with them, just lucky they woke in time.

If you listen to the rantings of goose Sevsek, who truly knows nothing of the happenings inside the ANBF, except what his fraudulent mate tells him to tell everyone on here, the current Directors of the ANBF, dislike this goose Sevsek and hate the fact he get's on here ranting and raving about how good his ANBF mate is.

In effect they're doing everything wrong, for one, they have no rules or regulations displayed in their website, at least the PABA who Sevsek condemns as a bad organisation, we have ratings that are updated regularly, we also have our rules and regulations gazetted there for everyone to see, we also have future and past fights displayed for everyone to view.

You see, we have nothing to hide, and neither do the ANBF, it's only when an oversized ego-maniac tries to rule the organisation over the decision making Directors, and holds them to ransom, he will quit the job, if they do not agree with his recommendations, it's happened before.

Well, this time he lost, the current Director's are very aware of his antics and there will be a few changes coming, in the way the organisation will approve it's title fights, then watch for a change of Ratings Chairman, because he is losing the little bit of power he has, and to a power hungry ego based fool like him, this will cause the end of his reign, just watch this space.

Da Voice wrote:Mark, you're welcome to call John Hogg for explanation. What I stated in this forum, is only basics from the days I was a member of ratings committee......1994 - 2000

Mark, call Hogg, all you will get is a bucket load of Drivel and spin, all his views, and not that of the current Directors, he is a master of spin, just ask Steve Deller, Adam Wilcock and a few others, they will tell you exactly what he tried to pull over them, it was just too unbelievable for words, this bloke is a liar, these guys will tell you what you need to hear.

Oh, and Sadsak, quoting from when was a ratings member 1994-2000, somehow, he has got his dates all wrong, plus you must remember, he was run out of town, dismissed and asked never to return, that's how much he knows, He is not even a member of the ANBF, yet he gets on here and tries to pursuade all the forum members as to just how good he is, the bloke know's, I know he's a fraud and a liar, and I can, and will, prove it to anyone who asks.

Hope all is well mate, chat during the week.
Brad

I think Dave v Gunna will be a good fight for the first four or so rounds, then hopefully Dave will get on top in the bout (this thread was about the Gunna v Dave fight wasnt it ??).
Regarding Berridge, did he fight on SBW last card ?
I may have him confused with some else and I stand corrected but I thought he got wobbled badly by a fella in bare feet ??

I would never have thought a thread on David Letizia v.s Gunnar Jackson would go 79 now 80 comments and 4 pages.
Good luck Gunnar.

Stay on topic fellas.

From a promoters point of view all good stuff keeping Jackson Vs Letizia at the top of the forum!!

To answer a few questions, Brad is right we'd be happy to stage a PABA title defence in NZ but we are not getting ahead of ourselves Dave is a tough fight for any light heavy in the region and Gunnar will be stepping up in weight!! Looking forward to the fight however!

Now i can say Brad is also a hardworking member of the boxing community he put together the Bostic Vs Kiyota OPBF title fight and I was much appreciated for his efforts as i was going through a rough patch at the time and Brad took it all in his stride never once putting the pump on me, but went about his business and got it done! Always enjoy catching up and chewing the fat with him when i see him at the fights! Hopefully in NZ again soon mate for a PABA title defence fingers crossed!

Da Voice wrote:Mark, you're welcome to call John Hogg for explanation. What I stated in this forum, is only basics from the days I was a member of ratings committee......1994 - 2000....When late Don Marks was the chief & ratings committe (not directors) had the final say, whether it's sanction or not.

Why would I call John Hogg? he doesn't get on here & bag regional titles. I'm not saying the ANBF ratings are corrupt, but prove to me that there not, there is no strength in the argument when you bag regional titles, if a casual fan asked you how does a fighter get in position to fight for the Australian title or how are the fighters rated what would you tell them ? I know I wouldn't know what to tell them.

Win fights Mark, it's not farken rocket science.

I'm glad the ANBF has pushed for real up and comers or prospects to fight for titles, do you know how many guys with 6-6 records who have won Australian titles in years gone by and cheapened the prestige title?

Queensland is the state leading by example for 50 - 50 fights and to hear the state being slagged for corruption or being bias is bullshit.
I admit that the Callan Orchard vs Aaron Russell 1 fight was absolutely disgusting, and the second when Russell was clearly winning and being stopped for no reason, but outside of that there's always been fair calls, ask Callan with his win over Tyrone Jones from Queensland.

I cover a lot of the events in Queensland, and can attest to the fact that there is no corruption or biasness to Queensland fighters, have a look at the records, not too many undefeated fighters in Queensland.

Hounddawg wrote:Win fights Mark, it's not farken rocket science.

I'm glad the ANBF has pushed for real up and comers or prospects to fight for titles, do you know how many guys with 6-6 records who have won Australian titles in years gone by and cheapened the prestige title?

Queensland is the state leading by example for 50 - 50 fights and to hear the state being slagged for corruption or being bias is bullshit.
I admit that the Callan Orchard vs Aaron Russell 1 fight was absolutely disgusting, and the second when Russell was clearly winning and being stopped for no reason, but outside of that there's always been fair calls, ask Callan with his win over Tyrone Jones from Queensland.

I cover a lot of the events in Queensland, and can attest to the fact that there is no corruption or biasness to Queensland fighters, have a look at the records, not too many undefeated fighters in Queensland.

Ok than like someone said earlier why isn't Andrew Green in the ratings? & why did Daniel Baff get taken out? You were fair dinkum born yesterday if think theres no bias in boxing, & if talk about Queensland my only experience up was bashing Matt Burns & not getting the decision.

Mark pawsey wrote:

Hounddawg wrote:Win fights Mark, it's not farken rocket science.

I'm glad the ANBF has pushed for real up and comers or prospects to fight for titles, do you know how many guys with 6-6 records who have won Australian titles in years gone by and cheapened the prestige title?

Queensland is the state leading by example for 50 - 50 fights and to hear the state being slagged for corruption or being bias is bullshit.
I admit that the Callan Orchard vs Aaron Russell 1 fight was absolutely disgusting, and the second when Russell was clearly winning and being stopped for no reason, but outside of that there's always been fair calls, ask Callan with his win over Tyrone Jones from Queensland.

I cover a lot of the events in Queensland, and can attest to the fact that there is no corruption or biasness to Queensland fighters, have a look at the records, not too many undefeated fighters in Queensland.

Ok than like someone said earlier why isn't Andrew Green in the ratings? & why did Daniel Baff get taken out? You were fair dinkum born yesterday if think theres no bias in boxing, & if talk about Queensland my only experience up was bashing Matt Burns & not getting the decision.

With all due respect to there god given ability's......but who have they beaten? they have extremely built up records. The lt heavy scene here in Queensland is off tap and they're all fighting each other.....Jones, Flanaghan,McConville, Russell & Orchard, ALL FIGHT ANYONE.

I'm saying at what has been said about Queensland is completely wrong....i thought the decision could of went to either, you or Matt, very scrappy and even fight mate.

Im glad we know Gunnar v Dave and Bryant v Tinampay are fighting on this card...we are less than a week out and no opponents have been named for the reamineder of the undercard. Anyone know of any opponents ??

hounddowg what a load of dribble saying Daniel Baffs record is extremely built up Oscar Siale? shannan Miller U.S.81 fights last win this year against 21_7_2 record if any of the Light heavies Caparella fought fighters like this you would be praising as next world champ.Daniel will fight any of the names you mention or any others the only times he has pulled out of fights has been due to injury which unfortunately he has had more than his share of. HAND PROBLEMS HOPEFULLY rectified now . He does not fight pumped up super middles like some why some of his fighters have not been top names is because of the fact that the so calledTopRanked fighters in aust would not fight him

andrew green hasnt beat any of the top ranked aussies mark, and baff got taken out because of inactivity at the time(due to illness i think). greens record looked good but he didnt fight anyone in the rankings to earn a shot at the aus title

caveman wrote:andrew green hasnt beat any of the top ranked aussies mark, and baff got taken out because of inactivity at the time(due to illness i think). greens record looked good but he didnt fight anyone in the rankings to earn a shot at the aus title

Ok than what is the rule how long can you not fight for before you get taken out of the ratings?

Mark pawsey wrote:

caveman wrote:andrew green hasnt beat any of the top ranked aussies mark, and baff got taken out because of inactivity at the time(due to illness i think). greens record looked good but he didnt fight anyone in the rankings to earn a shot at the aus title

Ok than what is the rule how long can you not fight for before you get taken out of the ratings?

Hogg usually takes them out after 7/8 months. Late Don Marks left them in for 12

Hounddawg what a silly thing to say that Daniel Baffs record is extremely built up, he has fought cruiser Oscar Sale at LHeavy won unanamous, American Shannon Miller K.O round 2,Miller has 81 fights been in with likes of B.Mitchell'Shumanov,A.Dirrell and Mack 'the only reason he has fought other fighters is because like most better fighters he cannot get fights. Taking nothing from Caparello etc if he were to fight and beat the likes of either Miller or Sia,le you would be saying he is the next big thing,Daniel would fight any of the Qld fighters you mentioned BUT would they fight him. He has been inactive to to severe injuries requiring surgery and has only pulled out of fights because of this in the past.Mate have a good look at the records of Green etc and you will find they all have more than a few mediocre fighters on their records.

correction terry, i know one queenslander that will fight baff in the lightheavy division,nearly happened a couple of times too ,

Hi Terry, thanks for your reply, honestly it's not up for argument, Baffs record for what ever reason is built up as is Greens, no named fighters with the exception of Siale who was a 1 fight novice.

As stated he has talent, on that alone he makes the top 10, and i've unfortunately witnessed both of his knockout loss's, so my opinion of him is unbiased.

We've got plenty of lt Heavy's thrown it on the line atm and people should be ranked through activity and not reputation.

Thanks, and for the record i like Baff as a fighter.

Da Voice wrote:

Mark pawsey wrote:

caveman wrote:andrew green hasnt beat any of the top ranked aussies mark, and baff got taken out because of inactivity at the time(due to illness i think). greens record looked good but he didnt fight anyone in the rankings to earn a shot at the aus title

Ok than what is the rule how long can you not fight for before you get taken out of the ratings?

Hogg usually takes them out after 7/8 months. Late Don Marks left them in for 12

Yes and the Late Don Marks had the criteria right.

How you can even mention Hogg in the same sentence as Marksy is beyond me, Hogg could not tie his bootlaces, at least Marksy was a real man's man, something Hogg and come to think of it, you, would not know anything about.

As i said previously, we never had any of the problems were having now when Don was doing the job, but in my opinion, now that Hogg is in the chair, there are problem's galore bought about by his lack of fairness, and again, this is my opinion, his desire to favour a few, irrespective of what's right.

Look, most fighter's today, the average fighter, has maybe three or four fights per year, depending upon their ability and the availability of opponents, so to remove them at a whim and when he feels like looking after a mate, is plain wrong, if they suffer any injury, a crook hand or even a cut, can take take up to 2-3 months to heal effectively, so would he take this into consideration, absolutely not, and this has been proven time and time again.

But what would you expect from a guy, who has never even visited a boxing gym, let alone trained, fought, or had a go, instead now, he is a so-called expert on these matters, and he would not even know how to lace up a glove, so go figure

As a Supervisor, he lazy and inept, he will not look at, or sign the fighter's gloves or bandages prior to a fight, unlike every other Supervisor iv'e ever worked with, all round Australia and the world, His sole function as a Supervisor is to get the official results for his record book, another Hogg project that benefits him, no-one else.

No Mr. Hogg needs to get serious and realise, it's not just about him, there are fighter's career's to work with, but then again, he has no real interest in the sport other than just record keeping, and here in Qld, he get's paid, as a so called Supervisor, which in effect, just helps him with his records.

It's sad, but true, don't worry about the fighter's, there are records to be kept.

any results from the weigh ins ?? I heard Dave lost his title on the sclaes (I was not at the weigh in myself, just chasing some clarification on this ).

amwsnw wrote:any results from the weigh ins ?? I heard Dave lost his title on the sclaes (I was not at the weigh in myself, just chasing some clarification on this ).

Interested in hearing about this myself....

Dave must've been keen to retain the title

Andrew Green has had one fight in the last 16 months and that was against Mumataz 8-29-1 and it was at Cruiserweight.
Why should he be in the ratings?

Baff Has not fought for 10 months.
Why should he be in the ratings?