Tommy Gunn13 wrote:Its great to have nottinghams finist Carl Froch....Top of the bill is great,but the undecard is SHIT!!!!Gomez u trying to upset me.......
Your loving all this bullshit.....im not sucking up to eddie hearn..................
Ok, devil's advocate.
Who should be on the undercard and who shall they be fighting that will appeal to an audience made up of 90% or more Nottingham fans ?
90%? doesn't Froch have much travelling support then Gomez?
I just hope the main event is a thriller otherwise the local fans, not boxing fans who've turned out to support their local boy done good may end up feeling slightly fleeced.
I'm pleased they've brought Bute to Nottingham though
Last edited by Final round on 16 Apr 2012, 17:08, edited 1 time in total.
Tommy Gunn13 wrote:Its great to have nottinghams finist Carl Froch....Top of the bill is great,but the undecard is SHIT!!!!Gomez u trying to upset me.......
Your loving all this bullshit.....im not sucking up to eddie hearn..................
Ok, devil's advocate.
Who should be on the undercard and who shall they be fighting that will appeal to an audience made up of 90% or more Nottingham fans ?
Your the bloke from the midlands....What is the undercard for Froch....Enlightin me???
Tommy Gunn13 wrote:Gomez.......Are you happy for this a world title undercard????
It's a Nottingham home coming, first and last.
As a Notts lad, I'm more than happy with the main event - and an undercard of local fighters is a bonus and nothing more.
The names might mean little to the johnny come lately, but to boxing fans around Nottingham, whom will make 90% of the crowd up they will know who they are.
I'd somewhat see your point if it was PPV but it's not.
Shaky logic. By that yardstick any 'name' fighter in his hometown is allowed to have a cack undercard because people only want to see the main event. Isn't that the case with 80% of shows though? So why don't we scrap undercards altogether? I've got no problem with this undercard, but due to the expense of bringing Bute in. I can't go with the 'all people want is the main event so fornicate em' argument. It might well be true, but main event fighters start on undercards, they're important, and the bigger the show the more exposure there is for undercard fighters
Wake up call wrote:Erick Ochieng v AA Lowe and John Ryder v Luke Robinson are good trade fights.
Ryan Aston is being pushed forwards against the experienced Paul Samuels.
There's nothing wrong with this undercard.
If a certain promoter had put together this undercard together people would be going mad
yeh,but would fish eyes give us the best fight out there for Froch or some bum and a undercard which is a little better.I didn`t think they would get Bute over,so im pleased as punch that Eddie has made the fight.As others have said this is not a ppv card so there will not be money to throw about on the undercard.I usualy like strength in depth in a undercard but this time i don`t give a fornicate,and anyway the undercard looks likely to be better then the one for Clevs last "world" title fight.
Tommy Gunn13 wrote:Sorry for my rant earlier....But i do stand by what i said,might well have jumped in&said which wasnt meant,but there u go....SORRY X
Wake up call wrote:Erick Ochieng v AA Lowe and John Ryder v Luke Robinson are good trade fights.
Ryan Aston is being pushed forwards against the experienced Paul Samuels.
There's nothing wrong with this undercard.
If a certain promoter had put together this undercard together people would be going mad
yeh,but would fish eyes give us the best fight out there for Froch or some bum and a undercard which is a little better.
He got Kessler over and had a good undercard...Enzo was chief support and it was a roll over but at least it was a WBO Cruiserweight defence in chief support...Burns, Hope, Cleverly
He also got Lacy over and that had a good undercard as well with Enzo (vs. Hobson) again and a Mister Chad Dawson...
So in answer to your question would Warren have got the best fight out there over here....yes.
If a certain promoter had put together this undercard together people would be going mad
yeh,but would fish eyes give us the best fight out there for Froch or some bum and a undercard which is a little better.
He got Kessler over and had a good undercard...Enzo was chief support and it was a roll over but at least it was a WBO Cruiserweight defence in chief support...Burns, Hope, Cleverly
He also got Lacy over and that had a good undercard as well with Enzo (vs. Hobson) again and a Mister Chad Dawson...
So in answer to your question would Warren have got the best fight out there over here....yes.
http://boxrec.com/date_search.php?yyyy=2007&mm=11&dd=03 This is Kessler bill, not great but some good prospects were on it. All the money went on Kessler plus the stadium hire which they never paid. Its very hard without US tv money to make these big fights in the UK work financially.
Tommy Gunn13 wrote:Sorry for my rant earlier....But i do stand by what i said,might well have jumped in&said which wasnt meant,but there u go....SORRY X
ashedward wrote:
yeh,but would fish eyes give us the best fight out there for Froch or some bum and a undercard which is a little better.
He got Kessler over and had a good undercard...Enzo was chief support and it was a roll over but at least it was a WBO Cruiserweight defence in chief support...Burns, Hope, Cleverly
He also got Lacy over and that had a good undercard as well with Enzo (vs. Hobson) again and a Mister Chad Dawson...
So in answer to your question would Warren have got the best fight out there over here....yes.
http://boxrec.com/date_search.php?yyyy=2007&mm=11&dd=03 This is Kessler bill, not great but some good prospects were on it. All the money went on Kessler plus the stadium hire which they never paid. Its very hard without US tv money to make these big fights in the UK work financially.
That's fair enough. All I am saying is that Hearn is making out that he's on a one-man mission to resurrect boxing and he is doing no better or no worse than the previous stakeholders...I don't mind someone giving it large - just back it up and I don't feel he's doing that- that's all
Would be interested to know why they couldn't do the Forest or City Grounds.
What he's done imo is brilliant, he's got Carl a fight with the second best 168lbs fighter in the world at home after coming off a loss! Now that deserves props IMO! Getting Bute over here is every bit as good as when they got Kessler over here... At the end of the day people attend a boxing show for the main event,
I can't remember a time I've gone to a show for the undercard unless my mate has been fighting, it's simple this will sell out cos Carl Froch is one of the most exciting guys this country has ever seen and he's always in good fights..
I really hope he wins this! The more British world champions we have the better, Burns & Froch IMO are 2 of the most genuine people in British boxing and the longer we have them as world champions the better..
Bomber 1 wrote:What he's done imo is brilliant, he's got Carl a fight with the second best 168lbs fighter in the world at home after coming off a loss! Now that deserves props IMO! Getting Bute over here is every bit as good as when they got Kessler over here... At the end of the day people attend a boxing show for the main event,
I can't remember a time I've gone to a show for the undercard unless my mate has been fighting, it's simple this will sell out cos Carl Froch is one of the most exciting guys this country has ever seen and he's always in good fights..
I really hope he wins this! The more British world champions we have the better, Burns & Froch IMO are 2 of the most genuine people in British boxing and the longer we have them as world champions the better..
He has always been in exciting fights and the fans and has been packing out the Nottingham Arena even when he was defending the British title against Brian Magee and Robin Reid 7-8 years ago so he has always been a popular fighter it is just a shame that it is only towards the end of his career he has been getting the recognition that his achievements so richly deserves. Plus after fighting Mikkel Kessler, Arthur Abraham, Glencoffe Johnson and Andre Ward on the road Carl Froch has richly deserved a homecoming fight in front of his fans at the Arena and I am pleased that Eddie Hearn has done that for him, and he was right in listening to the Cobra when he stated that he did not want an easy welcome home fight at the Arena and he wanted to show that he is still a topline fighter in one of the deepest divisions in boxing at the moment because that is the level he has been at since 2008 and he has managed to do that in getting Lucian Bute to leave his comfort zone and to step into that bearpit of a Nottingham Arena to put his IBF belt on the line against Froch.
jizzle wrote:
He got Kessler over and had a good undercard...Enzo was chief support and it was a roll over but at least it was a WBO Cruiserweight defence in chief support...Burns, Hope, Cleverly
He also got Lacy over and that had a good undercard as well with Enzo (vs. Hobson) again and a Mister Chad Dawson...
So in answer to your question would Warren have got the best fight out there over here....yes.
http://boxrec.com/date_search.php?yyyy=2007&mm=11&dd=03 This is Kessler bill, not great but some good prospects were on it. All the money went on Kessler plus the stadium hire which they never paid. Its very hard without US tv money to make these big fights in the UK work financially.
That's fair enough. All I am saying is that Hearn is making out that he's on a one-man mission to resurrect boxing and he is doing no better or no worse than the previous stakeholders...I don't mind someone giving it large - just back it up and I don't feel he's doing that- that's all
Would be interested to know why they couldn't do the Forest or City Grounds.
Relaying Forest pitch! Not sure why they did not City ground think there was cricket on too.
Bomber 1 wrote:What he's done imo is brilliant, he's got Carl a fight with the second best 168lbs fighter in the world at home after coming off a loss! Now that deserves props IMO! Getting Bute over here is every bit as good as when they got Kessler over here... At the end of the day people attend a boxing show for the main event,
I can't remember a time I've gone to a show for the undercard unless my mate has been fighting, it's simple this will sell out cos Carl Froch is one of the most exciting guys this country has ever seen and he's always in good fights..
I really hope he wins this! The more British world champions we have the better, Burns & Froch IMO are 2 of the most genuine people in British boxing and the longer we have them as world champions the better..
He has always been in exciting fights and the fans and has been packing out the Nottingham Arena even when he was defending the British title against Brian Magee and Robin Reid 7-8 years ago so he has always been a popular fighter it is just a shame that it is only towards the end of his career he has been getting the recognition that his achievements so richly deserves. Plus after fighting Mikkel Kessler, Arthur Abraham, Glencoffe Johnson and Andre Ward on the road Carl Froch has richly deserved a homecoming fight in front of his fans at the Arena and I am pleased that Eddie Hearn has done that for him, and he was right in listening to the Cobra when he stated that he did not want an easy welcome home fight at the Arena and he wanted to show that he is still a topline fighter in one of the deepest divisions in boxing at the moment because that is the level he has been at since 2008 and he has managed to do that in getting Lucian Bute to leave his comfort zone and to step into that bearpit of a Nottingham Arena to put his IBF belt on the line against Froch.
Plus I hope Froch can do it as well.
Magee was at York hall on Maloney show I do believe
Bomber 1 wrote:What he's done imo is brilliant, he's got Carl a fight with the second best 168lbs fighter in the world at home after coming off a loss! Now that deserves props IMO! Getting Bute over here is every bit as good as when they got Kessler over here... At the end of the day people attend a boxing show for the main event,
I can't remember a time I've gone to a show for the undercard unless my mate has been fighting, it's simple this will sell out cos Carl Froch is one of the most exciting guys this country has ever seen and he's always in good fights..
I really hope he wins this! The more British world champions we have the better, Burns & Froch IMO are 2 of the most genuine people in British boxing and the longer we have them as world champions the better..
He has always been in exciting fights and the fans and has been packing out the Nottingham Arena even when he was defending the British title against Brian Magee and Robin Reid 7-8 years ago so he has always been a popular fighter it is just a shame that it is only towards the end of his career he has been getting the recognition that his achievements so richly deserves. Plus after fighting Mikkel Kessler, Arthur Abraham, Glencoffe Johnson and Andre Ward on the road Carl Froch has richly deserved a homecoming fight in front of his fans at the Arena and I am pleased that Eddie Hearn has done that for him, and he was right in listening to the Cobra when he stated that he did not want an easy welcome home fight at the Arena and he wanted to show that he is still a topline fighter in one of the deepest divisions in boxing at the moment because that is the level he has been at since 2008 and he has managed to do that in getting Lucian Bute to leave his comfort zone and to step into that bearpit of a Nottingham Arena to put his IBF belt on the line against Froch.
Plus I hope Froch can do it as well.
Magee was at York hall on Maloney show I do believe
You are correct I am wrong. But he has been packing out the Arena since 2005 since he fought Matthew Barney.
It seems to me as though Matchroom are leading the way with the good shows and fighters at the moment. All balancing around World level, (brook,barker,froch,rees,mcclosky etc)
